(05-16-2012 02:47 PM)3601 Wrote:  

(05-16-2012 11:45 AM)msu65 Wrote:  You will see a lot of interest in Memphis in the first year of play in 2013. I would say 40,000 to 45,000 the first year which, as stated earlier, was attendance during DeAngelo Years. I have been involved since the late 70s so I am basing this on some history and local knowledge. A lot could depend on their performance this year. Expectations are very low for a first year coach, so we should be ok as far as fan frustrations.
The buzz over the Big East locally will cause a number of long term fans who have abandoned the program and curious peripheral fans to return to some home games and see what happens.
If they struggle the first year of Big East play, I believe it will drop back to the low to mid 30s until significant improvement occurs. The good news is large dollars are being invested in the program.

If Memphis is playing pretty well in a few years (8-4 - 9-3) and a highly ranked team comes to town you could see attendances of 60,000 to 65,000 for those games. I think those are conservative figures based on attendance patterns over the last 40 years.

I agree with you for the most part, but we've never attracted anything near 60k for an opponent not named UT or ole miss. That being said, I'm not sure how many highly ranked teams not named UT or ole miss we've hosted at the Liberty Bowl. Propbably not many.

True. I think if we had the record listed and a top 10 team came to the bowl we could approach 60,000. I was trying to remember what we had for the Louisville game when DeAngelo was there that we lost with both teams in the 40 point range.

(05-17-2012 06:40 PM)msu65 Wrote:  

(05-16-2012 02:47 PM)3601 Wrote:  

(05-16-2012 11:45 AM)msu65 Wrote:  You will see a lot of interest in Memphis in the first year of play in 2013. I would say 40,000 to 45,000 the first year which, as stated earlier, was attendance during DeAngelo Years. I have been involved since the late 70s so I am basing this on some history and local knowledge. A lot could depend on their performance this year. Expectations are very low for a first year coach, so we should be ok as far as fan frustrations.
The buzz over the Big East locally will cause a number of long term fans who have abandoned the program and curious peripheral fans to return to some home games and see what happens.
If they struggle the first year of Big East play, I believe it will drop back to the low to mid 30s until significant improvement occurs. The good news is large dollars are being invested in the program.

If Memphis is playing pretty well in a few years (8-4 - 9-3) and a highly ranked team comes to town you could see attendances of 60,000 to 65,000 for those games. I think those are conservative figures based on attendance patterns over the last 40 years.

I agree with you for the most part, but we've never attracted anything near 60k for an opponent not named UT or ole miss. That being said, I'm not sure how many highly ranked teams not named UT or ole miss we've hosted at the Liberty Bowl. Propbably not many.

True. I think if we had the record listed and a top 10 team came to the bowl we could approach 60,000. I was trying to remember what we had for the Louisville game when DeAngelo was there that we lost with both teams in the 40 point range.

54k

(05-17-2012 09:42 PM)aTxTIGER Wrote:  

(05-17-2012 06:40 PM)msu65 Wrote:  

(05-16-2012 02:47 PM)3601 Wrote:  

(05-16-2012 11:45 AM)msu65 Wrote:  You will see a lot of interest in Memphis in the first year of play in 2013. I would say 40,000 to 45,000 the first year which, as stated earlier, was attendance during DeAngelo Years. I have been involved since the late 70s so I am basing this on some history and local knowledge. A lot could depend on their performance this year. Expectations are very low for a first year coach, so we should be ok as far as fan frustrations.
The buzz over the Big East locally will cause a number of long term fans who have abandoned the program and curious peripheral fans to return to some home games and see what happens.
If they struggle the first year of Big East play, I believe it will drop back to the low to mid 30s until significant improvement occurs. The good news is large dollars are being invested in the program.

If Memphis is playing pretty well in a few years (8-4 - 9-3) and a highly ranked team comes to town you could see attendances of 60,000 to 65,000 for those games. I think those are conservative figures based on attendance patterns over the last 40 years.

I agree with you for the most part, but we've never attracted anything near 60k for an opponent not named UT or ole miss. That being said, I'm not sure how many highly ranked teams not named UT or ole miss we've hosted at the Liberty Bowl. Propbably not many.

True. I think if we had the record listed and a top 10 team came to the bowl we could approach 60,000. I was trying to remember what we had for the Louisville game when DeAngelo was there that we lost with both teams in the 40 point range.

54k

History proves that Memphis has never drawn 60K for a top 10 ranked opponent (other than UT or Miss). The last time we hosted a top 10 ranked 10 (other than UT) was Tulane in 1998. There were 18,000 people at that game.

http://www.cfbtrivia.com/cfbt_detail.php...011&grk=on

(05-18-2012 10:06 AM)3601 Wrote:  

(05-17-2012 09:42 PM)aTxTIGER Wrote:  

(05-17-2012 06:40 PM)msu65 Wrote:  

(05-16-2012 02:47 PM)3601 Wrote:  

(05-16-2012 11:45 AM)msu65 Wrote:  You will see a lot of interest in Memphis in the first year of play in 2013. I would say 40,000 to 45,000 the first year which, as stated earlier, was attendance during DeAngelo Years. I have been involved since the late 70s so I am basing this on some history and local knowledge. A lot could depend on their performance this year. Expectations are very low for a first year coach, so we should be ok as far as fan frustrations.
The buzz over the Big East locally will cause a number of long term fans who have abandoned the program and curious peripheral fans to return to some home games and see what happens.
If they struggle the first year of Big East play, I believe it will drop back to the low to mid 30s until significant improvement occurs. The good news is large dollars are being invested in the program.

If Memphis is playing pretty well in a few years (8-4 - 9-3) and a highly ranked team comes to town you could see attendances of 60,000 to 65,000 for those games. I think those are conservative figures based on attendance patterns over the last 40 years.

I agree with you for the most part, but we've never attracted anything near 60k for an opponent not named UT or ole miss. That being said, I'm not sure how many highly ranked teams not named UT or ole miss we've hosted at the Liberty Bowl. Propbably not many.

True. I think if we had the record listed and a top 10 team came to the bowl we could approach 60,000. I was trying to remember what we had for the Louisville game when DeAngelo was there that we lost with both teams in the 40 point range.

54k

History proves that Memphis has never drawn 60K for a top 10 ranked opponent (other than UT or Miss). The last time we hosted a top 10 ranked 10 (other than UT) was Tulane in 1998. There were 18,000 people at that game.

http://www.cfbtrivia.com/cfbt_detail.php...011&grk=on

why are you telling me? I just answered a question.

(05-18-2012 10:10 AM)aTxTIGER Wrote:  

(05-18-2012 10:06 AM)3601 Wrote:  

(05-17-2012 09:42 PM)aTxTIGER Wrote:  

(05-17-2012 06:40 PM)msu65 Wrote:  

(05-16-2012 02:47 PM)3601 Wrote:  I agree with you for the most part, but we've never attracted anything near 60k for an opponent not named UT or ole miss. That being said, I'm not sure how many highly ranked teams not named UT or ole miss we've hosted at the Liberty Bowl. Propbably not many.

True. I think if we had the record listed and a top 10 team came to the bowl we could approach 60,000. I was trying to remember what we had for the Louisville game when DeAngelo was there that we lost with both teams in the 40 point range.

54k

History proves that Memphis has never drawn 60K for a top 10 ranked opponent (other than UT or Miss). The last time we hosted a top 10 ranked 10 (other than UT) was Tulane in 1998. There were 18,000 people at that game.

http://www.cfbtrivia.com/cfbt_detail.php...011&grk=on

why are you telling me? I just answered a question.

It was for the benefit of the other gentleman. I simply responded to the most recent post. Lighten up.

(05-18-2012 10:27 AM)3601 Wrote:  

(05-18-2012 10:10 AM)aTxTIGER Wrote:  

(05-18-2012 10:06 AM)3601 Wrote:  

(05-17-2012 09:42 PM)aTxTIGER Wrote:  

(05-17-2012 06:40 PM)msu65 Wrote:  True. I think if we had the record listed and a top 10 team came to the bowl we could approach 60,000. I was trying to remember what we had for the Louisville game when DeAngelo was there that we lost with both teams in the 40 point range.

54k

History proves that Memphis has never drawn 60K for a top 10 ranked opponent (other than UT or Miss). The last time we hosted a top 10 ranked 10 (other than UT) was Tulane in 1998. There were 18,000 people at that game.

http://www.cfbtrivia.com/cfbt_detail.php...011&grk=on

why are you telling me? I just answered a question.

It was for the benefit of the other gentleman. I simply responded to the most recent post. Lighten up.

I;m just glad you didnt call me Francis. Everyone calls me Psycho.

54K for a top 20 Louisville team to see a good but not great Memphis team.

(05-18-2012 10:06 AM)3601 Wrote:  

(05-17-2012 09:42 PM)aTxTIGER Wrote:  

(05-17-2012 06:40 PM)msu65 Wrote:  

(05-16-2012 02:47 PM)3601 Wrote:  

(05-16-2012 11:45 AM)msu65 Wrote:  You will see a lot of interest in Memphis in the first year of play in 2013. I would say 40,000 to 45,000 the first year which, as stated earlier, was attendance during DeAngelo Years. I have been involved since the late 70s so I am basing this on some history and local knowledge. A lot could depend on their performance this year. Expectations are very low for a first year coach, so we should be ok as far as fan frustrations.
The buzz over the Big East locally will cause a number of long term fans who have abandoned the program and curious peripheral fans to return to some home games and see what happens.
If they struggle the first year of Big East play, I believe it will drop back to the low to mid 30s until significant improvement occurs. The good news is large dollars are being invested in the program.

If Memphis is playing pretty well in a few years (8-4 - 9-3) and a highly ranked team comes to town you could see attendances of 60,000 to 65,000 for those games. I think those are conservative figures based on attendance patterns over the last 40 years.

I agree with you for the most part, but we've never attracted anything near 60k for an opponent not named UT or ole miss. That being said, I'm not sure how many highly ranked teams not named UT or ole miss we've hosted at the Liberty Bowl. Propbably not many.

True. I think if we had the record listed and a top 10 team came to the bowl we could approach 60,000. I was trying to remember what we had for the Louisville game when DeAngelo was there that we lost with both teams in the 40 point range.

54k

History proves that Memphis has never drawn 60K for a top 10 ranked opponent (other than UT or Miss). The last time we hosted a top 10 ranked 10 (other than UT) was Tulane in 1998. There were 18,000 people at that game.

http://www.cfbtrivia.com/cfbt_detail.php...011&grk=on

What was Memphis record at the time? Doubt is was anything near my example of a good Memphis team with 8 or so wins. Also, it's Tulane. Not sure what the point of your post is.

(05-20-2012 11:44 AM)msu65 Wrote:  

(05-18-2012 10:06 AM)3601 Wrote:  

(05-17-2012 09:42 PM)aTxTIGER Wrote:  

(05-17-2012 06:40 PM)msu65 Wrote:  

(05-16-2012 02:47 PM)3601 Wrote:  I agree with you for the most part, but we've never attracted anything near 60k for an opponent not named UT or ole miss. That being said, I'm not sure how many highly ranked teams not named UT or ole miss we've hosted at the Liberty Bowl. Propbably not many.

True. I think if we had the record listed and a top 10 team came to the bowl we could approach 60,000. I was trying to remember what we had for the Louisville game when DeAngelo was there that we lost with both teams in the 40 point range.

54k

History proves that Memphis has never drawn 60K for a top 10 ranked opponent (other than UT or Miss). The last time we hosted a top 10 ranked 10 (other than UT) was Tulane in 1998. There were 18,000 people at that game.

http://www.cfbtrivia.com/cfbt_detail.php...011&grk=on

What was Memphis record at the time? Doubt is was anything near my example of a good Memphis team with 8 or so wins. Also, it's Tulane. Not sure what the point of your post is.

I'll help you out. We were 4-7 the year before and were 2-6 when Tulane came to Memphis in 98. A Tulane team that came out of nowhere to have that big year. Not exactly the scenario I was talking about. For the Louisville game we were televised, we were playing well and a top 20 team came to Memphis and we had a big crowd. It has happened in the past, and I believe it can happen again.

For our attendance to move to a 40,000 to 45,000 average, which has happened in the past, we need to win. If we don't it doesn't matter who comes to town.

(05-20-2012 11:57 AM)msu65 Wrote:  

(05-20-2012 11:44 AM)msu65 Wrote:  

(05-18-2012 10:06 AM)3601 Wrote:  

(05-17-2012 09:42 PM)aTxTIGER Wrote:  

(05-17-2012 06:40 PM)msu65 Wrote:  True. I think if we had the record listed and a top 10 team came to the bowl we could approach 60,000. I was trying to remember what we had for the Louisville game when DeAngelo was there that we lost with both teams in the 40 point range.

54k

History proves that Memphis has never drawn 60K for a top 10 ranked opponent (other than UT or Miss). The last time we hosted a top 10 ranked 10 (other than UT) was Tulane in 1998. There were 18,000 people at that game.

http://www.cfbtrivia.com/cfbt_detail.php...011&grk=on

What was Memphis record at the time? Doubt is was anything near my example of a good Memphis team with 8 or so wins. Also, it's Tulane. Not sure what the point of your post is.

I'll help you out. We were 4-7 the year before and were 2-6 when Tulane came to Memphis in 98. A Tulane team that came out of nowhere to have that big year. Not exactly the scenario I was talking about. For the Louisville game we were televised, we were playing well and a top 20 team came to Memphis and we had a big crowd. It has happened in the past, and I believe it can happen again.

For our attendance to move to a 40,000 to 45,000 average, which has happened in the past, we need to win. If we don't it doesn't matter who comes to town.

Check out the Bama and Miami games in the 80's and 90's. I think they were all less than 50k. History is history.

I agree that the only way we can average more than 45k is if we are winning.