(05-09-2012 07:41 PM)CommuterBob Wrote:  http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketba...unresolved

Quote:Multiple sources with direct knowledge of their situations told ESPN.com that Louisville athletic director Tom Jurich told the Big East board of directors that the Cardinals want to be in the Big 12 or the ACC, opting for transparency by making members aware of his school's true intentions.

No invitation has arrived as of yet and the only likely one would be from the Big 12 if new commissioner Bob Bowlsby sees the need to recommend to his board that an expansion to 12 teams is in the league's interest.

Wait, what???

Did Jurich really have the stones to tell the BOD that they're officially looking elsewhere? Can anyone else confirm?

Didn't ECU do this with the BE? How did that work out?

(05-09-2012 08:15 PM)CardinalJim Wrote:  

(05-09-2012 08:12 PM)EERSFAN Wrote:  Tom Jurich is the most honorable man in the world.

I don't believe you will find many people in our church or community that would disagree with you. Tom, Terilynn and the twins are all great people. Don't know his son that well as he was off playing ball for the Braves orgnization but he seems to be a fine young man as well.

I am glad someone outside of Louisville noticed. +3 for the kind words.
CJ

It has been fun watching TJ's career and the success. I first met TJ back in 1985 - I was the student rep on the President's Athletic Committee, and TJ was associate AD, only a few years removed from his All-American playing days at NAU. NAU's AD at the time, Gary Walker, was of the highest intregrity, so TJ had a great mentor.

(05-10-2012 07:56 AM)bitcruncher Wrote:  

(05-09-2012 10:33 PM)CardinalJim Wrote:  

(05-09-2012 10:24 PM)blunderbuss Wrote:  Dude, NOBODY knew Pitt and Cuse were leaving until the bombshell dropped out of nowhere that Friday night.

That was my point to Bob. If Pitt and Cuse told the Big East BOD formally, how did it not get reported. My understanding is the told them the thursday before.

My question is if Pitt and Cuse told the Big East BOD formally, why did Marinatto not find out about until just prior to the kickoff of the WVU-UMD game, when ESPiN's cameras were primed to catch him looking stupid?

Sounds like there are deeper issues within the Big East's leadership than can be solved with the firing of former commish Marinatto.

I can't name one school that wouldn't leave their current conference if bigger money from another conference was on the table.

(05-10-2012 10:22 AM)Derby Wrote:  I can't name one school that wouldn't leave their current conference if bigger money from another conference was on the table.

Notre Dame.....and Iowa. I cant speak for the rest of the conference but I am pretty sure they make enough with the Big Ten in athletic funds that a larger amount from another conference wouldn't be worth the other tangible and intangible losses.

Pretty sure that if the PAC ever loses out in the contract wars that it will not cost them any institutions either.

When this round of realignment started the prey was pretty much viewed as the Big East and the Big 12. I for one thought that the Big 12 would cease to exist. Been very impressed with how they took the bull by the horns, pun intended, and are now in open competition.

All that being said though, there are other factors in the process besides just athletic money.

(05-09-2012 08:08 PM)CardinalJim Wrote:  I just copied my post from The Big East Board:

This from the article.....

Multiple sources with direct knowledge of their situations told ESPN.com that Louisville athletic director Tom Jurich told the Big East board of directors that the Cardinals want to be in the Big 12 or the ACC, opting for transparency by making members aware of his school's true intentions.

...is not new information.

In December Tom Jurich told the Louisville newspaper that he had informed President Genshaft, USF's President and Chair of The Big East's President's committee this.

This is the way Jurich does business. Everything is up front. When we left CUSA he did the same thing.
CJ

When Pitt and Syracuse bolted, a guy who spent 30+ years in the college athletic business told me the best hope the Big East had would be for Jurich to step up and be the de facto commissioner getting the league rallied and pointed in the right direction.

He believed that if the Big East position became untenable resulting in a split that Jurich would be the one who would put together the football replacement league

(05-10-2012 10:22 AM)Derby Wrote:  I can't name one school that wouldn't leave their current conference if bigger money from another conference was on the table.

An SEC associate AD told me that NC State and Va.Tech did exactly that.

(05-09-2012 09:28 PM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  Whatever WVA paid is what we will pay.

I imagined Louisville as big tippers. I thought they might leave an extra $20 for those hard-working administrative assistants in Providence.

(05-09-2012 09:37 PM)miko33 Wrote:  It doesn't make any sense that the Big 12 is expanding in the near future because they just inked a new TV deal. Sure, contracts are made to be broken and new invitees are supposed to automatically result in a new TV contract...I get it...but it doesn't pass the logic test that the Big 12 would look to expand so soon after the ink just dried on their new contract.

If I may venture a guess as to why rumors of a Big XII expansion with a parade of candidate schools has been discussed for the past year, it would go something like this: The Big XII probably threw a bunch of scenarios together for "what if" analysis, e.g...If BYU and UL were brought into the Big XII would we be able to get "X" amount of money per team? How about Rutgers and Cincy? Would they do better? I seriously believe that these scenarios were bandied about with the idea in mind that the conference may not get as big of a payout as they were hoping/expecting to. However, now that we know the conference is getting a good TV deal, I think the current 10 members are content and I highly doubt that the schools want to go after expansion anymore. JMO, but I think they got the right numbers and are now done.

I don't know that the Big XII is making any announcements in the next 7 weeks but I would expect that they know full well the problems the ACC has dealt with having BC off so far from the rest of the league. Conference commissioners are a clubby bunch and they are pretty frank about what is happening (except for the ACC expansions, them dudes can keep a secret).

The Big XII is going to expand, it is going to be too hard long-term having WVU isolated. If they can gain money that's great but I think it is coming at some point in the next 36 months if they can just avoid losing money.

(05-10-2012 11:41 AM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(05-10-2012 10:22 AM)Derby Wrote:  I can't name one school that wouldn't leave their current conference if bigger money from another conference was on the table.

Notre Dame.....and Iowa. I cant speak for the rest of the conference but I am pretty sure they make enough with the Big Ten in athletic funds that a larger amount from another conference wouldn't be worth the other tangible and intangible losses.

Pretty sure that if the PAC ever loses out in the contract wars that it will not cost them any institutions either.

When this round of realignment started the prey was pretty much viewed as the Big East and the Big 12. I for one thought that the Big 12 would cease to exist. Been very impressed with how they took the bull by the horns, pun intended, and are now in open competition.

All that being said though, there are other factors in the process besides just athletic money.

Right. Money talks, but it would be a mistake to think that lots of schools are going to move from conference to conference every 3-5 years whenever another conference gets the latest and greatest TV deal.

For schools that are trying to "climb the ladder" like TCU, moving might make sense. And moving into a conference that your school sees as its "final destination" (CU to the Pac-12, TAMU to the SEC) makes a lot of sense. But it would make absolutely no sense for Ohio State or Alabama or USC to act like baseball free agents and auction their school to the highest bidder every few years. It's not going to happen.

(05-10-2012 09:50 AM)dbackjon Wrote:  

(05-09-2012 08:15 PM)CardinalJim Wrote:  

(05-09-2012 08:12 PM)EERSFAN Wrote:  Tom Jurich is the most honorable man in the world.

I don't believe you will find many people in our church or community that would disagree with you. Tom, Terilynn and the twins are all great people. Don't know his son that well as he was off playing ball for the Braves orgnization but he seems to be a fine young man as well.

I am glad someone outside of Louisville noticed. +3 for the kind words.
CJ

It has been fun watching TJ's career and the success. I first met TJ back in 1985 - I was the student rep on the President's Athletic Committee, and TJ was associate AD, only a few years removed from his All-American playing days at NAU. NAU's AD at the time, Gary Walker, was of the highest intregrity, so TJ had a great mentor.

Thanks for sharing that. I actually bumped into his college room mate in Huntington Beach, Ca. Met him in a Ralph's. He had on a Louisville jacket and I asked him if he was from Louisville. He said no his college room mate was AD and sent him stuff all the time. ...small world. I believe Tom might have more fans then Louisville...LOL
CJ

(05-09-2012 07:55 PM)AtlanticLeague Wrote:  I don't see the ACC extending an invite any time soon.

I can see the Big 12 picking up FSU, Clemson, MD and either GT or ND. I just do not see Louisville or VT in the fold.