Conf Rank
B12 82.31 1
SEC 82.17 2
B10 75.30 3
P12 73.96 4
BigEast 72.20 5
ACC 70.57 6
CUSA 62.70 7
MAC 61.61 8
MWC 61.36 9
Sunbelt 53.40 10

Didn't included the WAC, sorry your dead.

It would be "sorry, you're dead, dude. You're is a contraction of you are, which is what your sentence should say...

Grammar Nazi strikes again...

Does LY stand for last year?

Yes...

for reference- here's the actual's for comparison:
1 Big 12 82.83- new 82.31 -0.52
2 SEC 81.60 new 82.17 +0.57
3 Pac 12 75.38 new 75.38(not sure where you got the 73.96 from)
4 Big Ten 75.30 new 75.30
5 Big East 72.86 new 72.20 -0.66
6 ACC 71.03 new 70.57 -0.46
7 MWC 66.22 new 61.36 -4.86
8 CUSA 65.79 new 62.70 -3.09
9 WAC 63.94
10 MAC 63.31 new 61.61 -1.70
11 SBC 58.30 new 53.40 -4.90

Unfortunately, many of the players on last year's teams are gone. Thus, a statistical strength rating based on last year's teams is probably no more accurate than just using fan's perception (which I'm not opposed to using either in general conversation). Just not something IMO that will drive the media to change it's mind on the strength of a conference.

(05-04-2012 10:17 AM)Mothership Wrote:  Unfortunately, many of the players on last year's teams are gone. Thus, a statistical strength rating based on last year's teams is probably no more accurate than just using fan's perception (which I'm not opposed to using either in general conversation). Just not something IMO that will drive the media to change it's mind on the strength of a conference.

That's fair. However, you can especially with the comparision between last year actual to last year new lineup- tell what has happened.

Even if all things are exactly the same, last year's rankings don't mean all that much. Will the balls bounce the same way? Will the questionable calls go the same way? There's more to this than just the players...

(05-04-2012 10:22 AM)bitcruncher Wrote:  Even if all things are exactly the same, last year's rankings don't mean all that much. Will the balls bounce the same way? Will the questionable calls go the same way? There's more to this than just the players...

There is that- but like for the MWC- you can see they've lost TCU and Boise and San Diego, but picked up the 5. The ratings just are an estimation of where the conferences have shifted. It'll be interesting to see in December what reality is.

What do you do with Charlotte in that analysis? Just use the FCS average as a placeholder until they start generating numbers in 2013?

(05-04-2012 10:07 AM)stever20 Wrote:  for reference- here's the actual's for comparison:
1 Big 12 82.83- new 82.31 -0.52
2 SEC 81.60 new 82.17 +0.57
3 Pac 12 75.38 new 75.38(not sure where you got the 73.96 from)
4 Big Ten 75.30 new 75.30
5 Big East 72.86 new 72.20 -0.66
6 ACC 71.03 new 70.57 +0.46
7 MWC 66.22 new 61.36 -4.86
8 CUSA 65.79 new 62.70 -3.09
9 WAC 63.94
10 MAC 63.31 new 61.61 -1.70
11 SBC 58.30 new 53.40 -4.90

Wait a second, we are all told that the SEC is the best conference. This must be wrong.

Big 12 had a once in a generation type of year last year- 27-3 OOC and 33-5 including bowl games- and they were still only 0.14 better than the new SEC.

(05-04-2012 10:07 AM)stever20 Wrote:  for reference- here's the actual's for comparison:

6 ACC 71.03 new 70.57 +0.46

that would be -0.46

(05-04-2012 11:35 AM)Derby Wrote:  

(05-04-2012 10:07 AM)stever20 Wrote:  for reference- here's the actual's for comparison:

6 ACC 71.03 new 70.57 +0.46

that would be -0.46

fixed.

so the only conference up is the SEC?

yep.

The current 6 AQ's- none had a net loss of more than 1 point.

The smallest loss of the non AQ's- was -1.70. The other 3 lost at least 3 points.

If you want to go to tiers with that chart...

Tier 1 (above 80.0)
Big XII
SEC
Tier 2 (between 70.00-79.99)
Pac
B1G
BEast
ACC
Tier 3 (between 60.00-69.99)
MWC
CUSA
MAC
Tier 4 (below 60.00)
Sunbelt

NOTE: There was no mention of the WAC, since it seems there won't be a WAC to mention...

I would do 5 tiers:
Tier 1-
Big 12/SEC(teams in the 80s)
Tier 2-
Big 10/Pac 12(teams in the 75 range)
Tier 3-
Big East/ACC(teams in the low 70s)
Tier 4-
CUSA/MWC/MAC(teams in the 60s)
Tier 5-
SBC(teams in the 50s)

It actually works out closer to reality in your setup, stever...

I think the outcome so far at least-
where before there were actually 6 tiers, tiers 4 and 5(tier 4 was MWC and CUSA, tier 5 was WAC and MAC) is now just tier 4 (with MWC, CUSA, and MAC)