Jackson1011 Wrote:"4. See #2: this is part of Tranghese's plan for stall and delay. He has no realistic plan. He got the football schools to stay based on the bogus notion that MT could talk ND into joining for fb. What a laugh. Now he's playing for time with talk of upgrading somebody. Anything. He has no plan. He doesn't care that there are only 7 teams in the conf this year. He doesn't care that there are 8 next year. "


-- Why all the attacks towards Mikey T.....the man survived what was nothing more then an ambush for money from the ACC....and even after the league lost the best fball program in the country, the seond largest market in the east and the school that has recently produced Michael Vick....he took all of those negatives and rebuilt the league enough to where the football members are happy because they still have the BCS....the bball onlys are happy because this is the best hoops league ever....and ND is happy because the leagus is still together....

-- For a man who has to represent three distinct bodies ( football schools, bball onlys and ND)....from where I'm sitting he has done a hell of a job

-- And for the last time...Mikey T had nothing to do with the league not splitting....those kind of calls are made by the FOOTBALL PRESIDENTS....Mikey T cannot force any school to do anything..if he could...don't you think he would have forced Miami to stay?? The football presidents decided it was in there best interest to stay with the bbally onlys till the end of the decade....those are the facts....I disagree with that descion and you may too...but put the blame where it deserves to go....on the presidents...don't blame the man who just saved our collective football future


Jackson

Mike T had a lot more to do with the makeup of the new BE membership then you might think. its all about perserving the small catholic schools strangle hold on the BE not the football schools.its clear to anyone with there eyes open,MT has no plan for football.the fact that Mike T went to the US Justice Dept, and the courts over the lowball highbinding tv offer from ABC/ESPN shows he's got little else going.thats a big gamble and quit risky. it looks like, as far as everything ,VaTech,MIAMI ,and BC leaving, the sweethart deal the ACC got from ABC/ESPN, that the ACC got the chicken,the BigEast got the feathers. don't look now it looks like the 12 game season could be mandated very soon.watch the big BE schools make a move for a 12 team all sports conference in the east. or watch WVU and other large BE schools be cherry picked

Is this a Big East board or a Big East wannabe board? :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

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ex Cincy Kid Wrote:If you're going to expand by 4, add Memphis, ECU, Miami-O and Toledo.

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

pirate65 Wrote:the ACC got the chicken,the BigEast got the feathers.

I like the quote. If the ACC got the chicken and the Big East got the feathers what did CUSA? The chicken sh*t or the shaft.....LMAO. BTW please produce some credible information on this 12 game schedule mandate you keep harping on. By credible I mean any source aside from ECU hack.
CJ

Notre Dame, Penn State, Memphis and East Carolina would make the Big East a very strong 12 team conference.

Everybody on here is talking like this Big East split or 9th football addition is just around the corner. Reality is expansion is at LEAST 5-10 years away and could very well be longer.

Whatever candidates look strong in 2004 could be weaker by 2014 or whenever.

The more immeadate threat to the Big East is the possbility of losing the Gator and Insight bowls, which might force Notre Dame into the Big Ten for better bowl opportunities.

Everybody on here is talking like this Big East split or 9th football addition is just around the corner. Reality is expansion is at LEAST 5-10 years away and could very well be longer.

This is why we say that fans of other schools in other conferences shouldn't worry about us, or come to our board and tell us what we should or should not know. There is a possibility that the 9th team could be added for next year. The Big East came close to adding a 9th team for next year back in December.

Whatever candidates look strong in 2004 could be weaker by 2014 or whenever.

Or they could be stronger.

The more immeadate threat to the Big East is the possbility of losing the Gator and Insight bowls, which might force Notre Dame into the Big Ten for better bowl opportunities.

No kidding, but you can actually take care of more then one problem at a time. Besides, the Big Apple Bowl is being set up to probably replace the Gator Bowl. And nothing is going to force Notre Dame into the Big Ten. If the Big East loses those bowls it's not going to cause Notre Dame to join the Big Ten. They'll go when they feel like no matter what is happening in other conferences.

CardinalJim Wrote:BTW please produce some credible information on this 12 game schedule mandate you keep harping on. By credible I mean any source aside from ECU hack.
CJ

I'd like to see this info as well on that 12 game mandate.

Someone mentioned Miami and Toledo joining the Big East in expansion. No way does UC and Miami re-join each other in a conference. UC wouldn't allow it. Not out of spite, but because Miami brings the same market, if any market, that UC has and would infringe on our recruiting, same probably goes for Toledo, though I could see UC okaying them entering. Memphis is the logical choice, followed by UCF. UMass and Villanova and probably locks to join if they ever upgraded to Division 1-A and East Carolina if none of the above goes down.

"Someone mentioned Miami and Toledo joining the Big East in expansion. No way does UC and Miami re-join each other in a conference. UC wouldn't allow it. Not out of spite, but because Miami brings the same market, if any market, that UC has and would infringe on our recruiting, same probably goes for Toledo, though I could see UC okaying them entering. Memphis is the logical choice, followed by UCF. UMass and Villanova and probably locks to join if they ever upgraded to Division 1-A and East Carolina if none of the above goes down. "



-- The trouble with this is...the BE is going to need a 9th member before the promised 2010 split date....that means that unless Memphis or whoever would agree to send the rest of there sports into the A10 for while....we need to be looking for a football only member

-- From what I understand....the vote on the 12 game schedule is this April and many rumors are circulating about schools already trying to line up the 12th game (see Pitt-PSU and the WVU-VT game in DC stories)

-- If the BE needs a football only member....and it seems like they are going to if the new schedule is passed....I would guess the new member will be Navy...fits in geographically...much more success on the field then Army and a close relationship with Notre Dame....but that's only my guess

Jackson

-- "If the BE needs a football only member....and it seems like they are going to if the new schedule is passed....I would guess the new member will be Navy...fits in geographically...much more success on the field then Army and a close relationship with Notre Dame....but that's only my guess"

I agree with you Jackson1011. Navy is the logical choice for the 9th school as a football-only school at this point.

Army or Navy will both kill the strenght of schedule!

i still think either ECU or UCF would take a football only invite if offered, and either would be worth consideration along w/ Navy. They could easily find a home for their other sports. They have to get football in the Big East, with the hope that all-sports membership would come w/ the split.

Marshall would be the best football only invite. I know i will get WV fans upset but it is the truth.

Wilkie01 Wrote:Marshall would be the best football only invite. I know i will get WV fans upset but it is the truth.

few outside of WV seem to know the true state of Moo-U athletics... if they can avoid major NCAA sanctions (a big if), they should be a middle-of-the-road program in football, and a doormat in all other sports, in the NCUSA. They are not the type of renegade program that the NBE should be looking at.

I keeping that, expand please.