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SBC vs CUSA DMAs
New SBC DMAs
Texas State(Austin/Round Rock/San Marcos#47)
UT-Arlington (Dallas/Ft. Worth #5)
Louisiana (Lafayette, LA #124)
ULM (Monroe/El Dorado, LA #137)
Arkansas State (Jonesboro, AR #181)
UALR (Little Rock/Pine Bluff, AR #56)
Troy (Montgomery/Selma, AL #119)
Western Kentucky (Bowling Green, KY #182)
Florida Atlantic (Miami-Ft. Lauderdale #16)
Georgia State (Atlanta, GA #9)
Middle Tennessee (Nashville, TN #29)
South Alabama (Mobile-Pensacola #60)

Total TV Sets: 8.9M


New CUSA DMAs
UNT (Dallas - Ft Worth #5)
Rice (Houston #10)
FIU (Miami #16)
Charlotte (Charlotte #25)
UTSA (San Antonio #36)
UAB (Birmingham #39)
ODU (Norfolk/Portsmouth/Newport News #43)
Tulane (New Orleans #52)
Tulsa (Tulsa #59)
Marshall (Charleston-Huntington #65)
La Tech (Shreveport #83)
UTEP (El Paso #91)
ECU (Greenville/New Bern/Washington #99)
USM (Hattiesburg #167)

Total TV Sets: 12.4M
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(05-01-2012 11:14 PM)panama Wrote:  New SBC DMAs
Texas State(Austin/Round Rock/San Marcos#47)
UT-Arlington (Dallas/Ft. Worth #5)
Louisiana (Lafayette, LA #124)
ULM (Monroe/El Dorado, LA #137)
Arkansas State (Jonesboro, AR #181)
UALR (Little Rock/Pine Bluff, AR #56)
Troy (Montgomery/Selma, AL #119)
Western Kentucky (Bowling Green, KY #182)
Florida Atlantic (Miami-Ft. Lauderdale #16)
Georgia State (Atlanta, GA #9)
Middle Tennessee (Nashville, TN #29)
South Alabama (Mobile-Pensacola #60)

Total TV Sets: 8.9M


Couldn't ULM also claim the Shreveport market?
New CUSA DMAs
UNT (Dallas - Ft Worth #5)
Rice (Houston #10)
FIU (Miami #16)
Charlotte (Charlotte #25)
UTSA (San Antonio #36)
UAB (Birmingham #39)
ODU (Norfolk/Portsmouth/Newport News #43)
Tulane (New Orleans #52)
Tulsa (Tulsa #59)
Marshall (Charleston-Huntington #65)
La Tech (Shreveport #83)
UTEP (El Paso #91)
ECU (Greenville/New Bern/Washington #99)
USM (Hattiesburg #167)

Total TV Sets: 12.4M
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Nope? Not any more than we can claim Chattanooga.
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Can CUSA really claim the Houston market? How many students do they have? 5 or so? They're utterly invisible here (I live in Houston). The problem with many private schools is getting a wider audience. And Rice DEFINATELY doesnt have that.
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You probably could put Dothan, AL with Troy.
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(05-01-2012 11:30 PM)AlaIllTex Wrote:  Can CUSA really claim the Houston market? How many students do they have? 5 or so? They're utterly invisible here (I live in Houston). The problem with many private schools is getting a wider audience. And Rice DEFINATELY doesnt have that.

I'd be willing to bet that we have more TxSt alumni living in houston than Rice. Heck, in about 10 years we will have more bobcats living in Houston than Rice has living alumni period. Last I heard TxSt has around 35,000 alumni living in the Houston area, Rice has around 50,000 living alumni living all over the world.

The CUSA private schools have Southland level support when you look at it as butts in seats.
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(05-01-2012 11:44 PM)txstatebobcat Wrote:  
(05-01-2012 11:30 PM)AlaIllTex Wrote:  Can CUSA really claim the Houston market? How many students do they have? 5 or so? They're utterly invisible here (I live in Houston). The problem with many private schools is getting a wider audience. And Rice DEFINATELY doesnt have that.

I'd be willing to bet that we have more TxSt alumni living in houston than Rice. Heck, in about 10 years we will have more bobcats living in Houston than Rice has living alumni period. Last I heard TxSt has around 35,000 alumni living in the Houston area, Rice has around 50,000 living alumni living all over the world.

Rice doesn't have 50,000 living alumni last time I checked. I would be ASTOUNDED if you didnt have far more alumni in Houston than Rice. No, its not in your DMA but is it really Rice's either? I think Rice is a total blank in terms of market.
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(05-01-2012 11:49 PM)AlaIllTex Wrote:  
(05-01-2012 11:44 PM)txstatebobcat Wrote:  
(05-01-2012 11:30 PM)AlaIllTex Wrote:  Can CUSA really claim the Houston market? How many students do they have? 5 or so? They're utterly invisible here (I live in Houston). The problem with many private schools is getting a wider audience. And Rice DEFINATELY doesnt have that.

I'd be willing to bet that we have more TxSt alumni living in houston than Rice. Heck, in about 10 years we will have more bobcats living in Houston than Rice has living alumni period. Last I heard TxSt has around 35,000 alumni living in the Houston area, Rice has around 50,000 living alumni living all over the world.

Rice doesn't have 50,000 living alumni last time I checked. I would be ASTOUNDED if you didnt have far more alumni in Houston than Rice. No, its not in your DMA but is it really Rice's either? I think Rice is a total blank in terms of market.

I googled it several months ago, so my memory may be off. Regardless it wasn't a terribly impressive number which is understandable considering their mission as a university.
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(05-01-2012 11:59 PM)txstatebobcat Wrote:  
(05-01-2012 11:49 PM)AlaIllTex Wrote:  
(05-01-2012 11:44 PM)txstatebobcat Wrote:  
(05-01-2012 11:30 PM)AlaIllTex Wrote:  Can CUSA really claim the Houston market? How many students do they have? 5 or so? They're utterly invisible here (I live in Houston). The problem with many private schools is getting a wider audience. And Rice DEFINATELY doesnt have that.

I'd be willing to bet that we have more TxSt alumni living in houston than Rice. Heck, in about 10 years we will have more bobcats living in Houston than Rice has living alumni period. Last I heard TxSt has around 35,000 alumni living in the Houston area, Rice has around 50,000 living alumni living all over the world.

Rice doesn't have 50,000 living alumni last time I checked. I would be ASTOUNDED if you didnt have far more alumni in Houston than Rice. No, its not in your DMA but is it really Rice's either? I think Rice is a total blank in terms of market.

I googled it several months ago, so my memory may be off. Regardless it wasn't a terribly impressive number which is understandable considering their mission as a university.

Been to Rices stadium for a non football event and someone said they didn't have enough living alumni to fill their own stadium. Don't know if it was true or not but found it humorous.
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La Tech IS NOT, NOR HAS EVER BEEN, in the Shreveport market! They reside in the #137 Monroe/El Dorado market. Not that it matters now....

Best of luck to our old rival. They took the bull by the horns and suffered the risks and ridicule to better themselves. Good for them, and looking forward to our FB game in 2013 at Cajun Field. There will be 45k+ there if allowed.
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Florida Atlantic is considered #38 West Palm Beach-Boca Raton Media Market not Miami-Ft.Lauderdale.
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(05-02-2012 03:52 AM)panther viscosity Wrote:  Florida Atlantic is considered #38 West Palm Beach-Boca Raton Media Market not Miami-Ft.Lauderdale.

There is no "West Palm Beach-Boca Raton" Market. The West Palm market is technically classified as "West Palm Beach-Ft. Pierce"...two cities which are to the north of Boca Raton by about 40-50 miles. West Palm is actually just about as far from Boca as Miami is. Boca is in between Miami and West Palm, right on the border of Broward and Palm Beach Counties. We are actaully closer to Ft. Lauderdale (15 miles) then FIU (30 miles). Boca gets listed under the WPB market because it's in Palm Beach County, but sort of a misnomer because Boca is really a blend of the two media markets. For example, FAU is covered by the South Florida Sun Sentinel (based in Broward county) and the Palm Beach Post (based in West Palm). At my home in Boca, I get the NBC station from West Palm, but I also get CBS4, which is the same CBS station I get at my office in Miami. Boca can't really be boxed into either market, it's more of a combination of the two.
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Yeah I would agree, you cant really say FAU gets the Miami Market.

We get no coverage in it but plenty in the Broward and Palm Beach markets.
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(05-02-2012 05:38 AM)fauowls561 Wrote:  
(05-02-2012 03:52 AM)panther viscosity Wrote:  Florida Atlantic is considered #38 West Palm Beach-Boca Raton Media Market not Miami-Ft.Lauderdale.

There is no "West Palm Beach-Boca Raton" Market. The West Palm market is technically classified as "West Palm Beach-Ft. Pierce"...two cities which are to the north of Boca Raton by about 40-50 miles. West Palm is actually just about as far from Boca as Miami is. Boca is in between Miami and West Palm, right on the border of Broward and Palm Beach Counties. We are actaully closer to Ft. Lauderdale (15 miles) then FIU (30 miles). Boca gets listed under the WPB market because it's in Palm Beach County, but sort of a misnomer because Boca is really a blend of the two media markets. For example, FAU is covered by the South Florida Sun Sentinel (based in Broward county) and the Palm Beach Post (based in West Palm). At my home in Boca, I get the NBC station from West Palm, but I also get CBS4, which is the same CBS station I get at my office in Miami. Boca can't really be boxed into either market, it's more of a combination of the two.

FAU does not mean the Miami-Ft. Lauderdale TV Market. Not true. In terms of TV coverage, which is what DMA's seem to be all about, Miami Dade and Broward (Ft. Lauderdale) Counties share the SAME television market and stations. Not so with Palm Beach County, which is where Boca is.

Here is an official listing, where Miami-Ft. Lauderdale is #16, with WPB coming in at #38.

http://www.sportstvjobs.com/resources/lo...s-dma.html
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The main issue = Television $$$ revenue for conference members. That trumps all.
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App is Charlotte DMA, GSo is close to Savannah. TV-wise, the conferences are virtually identicle.
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(05-01-2012 11:44 PM)txstatebobcat Wrote:  
(05-01-2012 11:30 PM)AlaIllTex Wrote:  Can CUSA really claim the Houston market? How many students do they have? 5 or so? They're utterly invisible here (I live in Houston). The problem with many private schools is getting a wider audience. And Rice DEFINATELY doesnt have that.

I'd be willing to bet that we have more TxSt alumni living in houston than Rice. Heck, in about 10 years we will have more bobcats living in Houston than Rice has living alumni period. Last I heard TxSt has around 35,000 alumni living in the Houston area, Rice has around 50,000 living alumni living all over the world.

The CUSA private schools have Southland level support when you look at it as butts in seats.

Priority of football in Houston

1) NFL - Houston Texans
2) Texas A&M
3) Texas
4) Houston
5) Rice

But there is a HUGE dropoff between Houston and Rice.
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What were the old DMA's?
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(05-02-2012 10:07 AM)FIUFanatic Wrote:  
(05-02-2012 05:38 AM)fauowls561 Wrote:  
(05-02-2012 03:52 AM)panther viscosity Wrote:  Florida Atlantic is considered #38 West Palm Beach-Boca Raton Media Market not Miami-Ft.Lauderdale.

There is no "West Palm Beach-Boca Raton" Market. The West Palm market is technically classified as "West Palm Beach-Ft. Pierce"...two cities which are to the north of Boca Raton by about 40-50 miles. West Palm is actually just about as far from Boca as Miami is. Boca is in between Miami and West Palm, right on the border of Broward and Palm Beach Counties. We are actaully closer to Ft. Lauderdale (15 miles) then FIU (30 miles). Boca gets listed under the WPB market because it's in Palm Beach County, but sort of a misnomer because Boca is really a blend of the two media markets. For example, FAU is covered by the South Florida Sun Sentinel (based in Broward county) and the Palm Beach Post (based in West Palm). At my home in Boca, I get the NBC station from West Palm, but I also get CBS4, which is the same CBS station I get at my office in Miami. Boca can't really be boxed into either market, it's more of a combination of the two.

FAU does not mean the Miami-Ft. Lauderdale TV Market. Not true. In terms of TV coverage, which is what DMA's seem to be all about, Miami Dade and Broward (Ft. Lauderdale) Counties share the SAME television market and stations. Not so with Palm Beach County, which is where Boca is.

Here is an official listing, where Miami-Ft. Lauderdale is #16, with WPB coming in at #38.

http://www.sportstvjobs.com/resources/lo...s-dma.html

Just try driving from Ft Lauderdale to FIU's main campus. You'll find that Boca is MUCH quicker than going to the Southside of Miami.

Miami and West Palm have their own media. All the people I know in Ft Laud (and I have a second home there) watch WPB media.
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(05-02-2012 11:22 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  
(05-02-2012 10:07 AM)FIUFanatic Wrote:  
(05-02-2012 05:38 AM)fauowls561 Wrote:  
(05-02-2012 03:52 AM)panther viscosity Wrote:  Florida Atlantic is considered #38 West Palm Beach-Boca Raton Media Market not Miami-Ft.Lauderdale.

There is no "West Palm Beach-Boca Raton" Market. The West Palm market is technically classified as "West Palm Beach-Ft. Pierce"...two cities which are to the north of Boca Raton by about 40-50 miles. West Palm is actually just about as far from Boca as Miami is. Boca is in between Miami and West Palm, right on the border of Broward and Palm Beach Counties. We are actaully closer to Ft. Lauderdale (15 miles) then FIU (30 miles). Boca gets listed under the WPB market because it's in Palm Beach County, but sort of a misnomer because Boca is really a blend of the two media markets. For example, FAU is covered by the South Florida Sun Sentinel (based in Broward county) and the Palm Beach Post (based in West Palm). At my home in Boca, I get the NBC station from West Palm, but I also get CBS4, which is the same CBS station I get at my office in Miami. Boca can't really be boxed into either market, it's more of a combination of the two.

FAU does not mean the Miami-Ft. Lauderdale TV Market. Not true. In terms of TV coverage, which is what DMA's seem to be all about, Miami Dade and Broward (Ft. Lauderdale) Counties share the SAME television market and stations. Not so with Palm Beach County, which is where Boca is.

Here is an official listing, where Miami-Ft. Lauderdale is #16, with WPB coming in at #38.

http://www.sportstvjobs.com/resources/lo...s-dma.html

Just try driving from Ft Lauderdale to FIU's main campus. You'll find that Boca is MUCH quicker than going to the Southside of Miami.

Miami and West Palm have their own media. All the people I know in Ft Laud (and I have a second home there) watch WPB media.

And, if need be, you can get your Miami fix with a short drive.
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