Swaim is an Oklahoma State guy, so I'm pretty familiar with him.

He is a guy that is always bragging about getting "the scoop" on things first, so he makes a LOT of far out predictions according to "his sources" that turn out to be wrong.

When it comes to college basketball recruiting in the Big 12 region - he isn't half bad.

Anything else like realignment? He isn't as knowledgeable as most fans on this board. He is obsessed with driving traffic to his site and is guilty of creating news to get the traffic.

(05-01-2012 08:51 PM)CougarRed Wrote:  Expansion's not even on the agenda at the Big 12 meetings in Phoenix, according to ESPN. Swaim is just throwing stuff at the wall again . . .

Actually those meetings have more to do with the commissioner who will be selected shortly--expansion won't occur (if it does) until after the new commissioner is in place. Those meetings were not supposed to be about expansion at any point in time.

(05-01-2012 08:51 PM)CougarRed Wrote:  Expansion's not even on the agenda at the Big 12 meetings in Phoenix, according to ESPN. Swaim is just throwing stuff at the wall again . . .

There are a lot of reasons to take shots at Swaim but this?

I guess to some, sports is a religion and ESPN is their Bible.

You had me until Greg Swaim

(05-01-2012 07:54 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  I really do not see how Louisville and Cincinatti helps sign Florida State and Clemson.

I agree. It's Texas and Oklahoma that will draw them in. Not anyone else.

(05-01-2012 07:54 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  I do honestly believe in the idea that there is much to gain for FSU and Clemson joining the Big 12 but I do not see how Cincinatti helps break into the Ohio market to any worthwhile degree. Cinci is so limited when it comes to facilities that having games there limits you to being broadcasted online and not on TV. It is a terrible venue for tv.

The Cincinnati market has almost as many households as Iowa, and Cincy produces 3 times as many 3-star and above recruits (yes, I looked it up). And yes, UC owns its own market, more than Iowa State owns Des Moines anyhow (since they share it equally with Iowa). Given that base to build on, the rest of Ohio is just gravy on top. You want to thicken that gravy quickly? Add Texas and Oklahoma to the annual schedule, and bring Nippert to a boil.

We've been on ESPN lots of times, and every time that I've been out of town and forced to watch on TV, I hear the announcers refer to Nippert as the "Wrigley Field of college football." It's a well-deserved title in every sense of the term. Expansion plans have been drawn up, but from what I hear they're waiting to see what conference we wind up in to pull the trigger. It would make little sense to expand if UL, Rutgers, and UConn leave and we're stuck in C-USA 2.0. We're in no rush, because we have a sparkling new 65,000 seat stadium 2 miles from campus that we can play in anytime we want while funds are raised and renovations are underway.

Money for expansion is not really a problem for UC compared to other schools. We've spent $135 million over the last decade to upgrade our athletic facilities (sadly, almost all on non-revenue sports). We have 250,000 alumni and a $1 billion endowment, both of which would be 2nd biggest in the Big 12 (behind Texas). And we're currently in the middle of a $1 billion fundraising campaign to add to that.

(05-01-2012 09:18 PM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  

(05-01-2012 07:54 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  I really do not see how Louisville and Cincinatti helps sign Florida State and Clemson.

I agree. It's Texas and Oklahoma that will draw them in. Not anyone else.

(05-01-2012 07:54 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  I do honestly believe in the idea that there is much to gain for FSU and Clemson joining the Big 12 but I do not see how Cincinatti helps break into the Ohio market to any worthwhile degree. Cinci is so limited when it comes to facilities that having games there limits you to being broadcasted online and not on TV. It is a terrible venue for tv.

The Cincinnati market has almost as many households as Iowa, and Cincy produces 3 times as many 3-star and above recruits (yes, I looked it up). And yes, UC owns its own market, more than Iowa State owns Des Moines anyhow (since they share it equally with Iowa). Given that base to build on, the rest of Ohio is just gravy on top. You want to thicken that gravy quickly? Add Texas and Oklahoma to the annual schedule, and bring Nippert to a boil.

We've been on ESPN lots of times, and every time that I've been out of town and forced to watch on TV, I hear the announcers refer to Nippert as the "Wrigley Field of college football." It's a well-deserved title in every sense of the term. Expansion plans have been drawn up, but from what I hear they're waiting to see what conference we wind up in to pull the trigger. It would make little sense to expand if UL, Rutgers, and UConn leave and we're stuck in C-USA 2.0. We're in no rush, because we have a sparkling new 65,000 seat stadium 2 miles from campus that we can play in anytime we want while funds are raised and renovations are underway.

Money for expansion is not really a problem for UC compared to other schools. We've spent $135 million over the last decade to upgrade our athletic facilities (sadly, almost all on non-revenue sports). We have 250,000 alumni and a $1 billion endowment, both of which would be 2nd biggest in the Big 12 (behind Texas). And we're currently in the middle of a $1 billion fundraising campaign to add to that.

Hey Captain, I can appreciate a Bearcat fan standing up for what Cincy brings to the table but comparing them to Iowa is most definitely comparing apples to oranges. Let's compare stadiums. How goes those expansion plans for your stadium? Yeah, comparing the state of Ohio to the state of Iowa is truly an apples and oranges comparison. The Gorilla in the room is not the Hawkeyes it is the Buckeyes.

With that being said, I do wish you guys luck in your campaign to join the Big 12. That endowment number is truly impressive. If a solution for your stadium issue can be presented then I could see how Cincy could make for a great 16th addition.

Ohio has over 11 million people and a large number of them aren't Buckeye fans. A good portion are Bearcat fans and a good portion will watch both.

They are the only two BCS programs in a huge football loving state.

Texas and Oklahoma and schools like WVU playing in Cincinnati will draw interest from football players in the state no doubt--has so far when OU and WVU played there (both recent games moved to Paul Brown for the larger crowds)

(05-01-2012 09:34 PM)buckaineer Wrote:  Ohio has over 11 million people and a large number of them aren't Buckeye fans. A good portion are Bearcat fans and a good portion will watch both.

They are the only two BCS programs in a huge football loving state.

Texas and Oklahoma and schools like WVU playing in Cincinnati will draw interest from football players in the state no doubt--has so far when OU and WVU played there (both recent games moved to Paul Brown for the larger crowds)

What does the Big East do if/when they lose Louisville and Cincy basketball? Do the basketball schools still care to continue on?

(05-01-2012 09:39 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(05-01-2012 09:34 PM)buckaineer Wrote:  Ohio has over 11 million people and a large number of them aren't Buckeye fans. A good portion are Bearcat fans and a good portion will watch both.

They are the only two BCS programs in a huge football loving state.

Texas and Oklahoma and schools like WVU playing in Cincinnati will draw interest from football players in the state no doubt--has so far when OU and WVU played there (both recent games moved to Paul Brown for the larger crowds)

What does the Big East do if/when they lose Louisville and Cincy basketball? Do the basketball schools still care to continue on?

I would think it would need to be the loss of both Louisville and UConn, that could cause the bball to go its separate way. I don't know how the money will work so maybe that would still keep them tied together.

I'm fine with Louisville, but UC would have to agree to play all of there conference games at Paul Brown Staduim before I would even start the negotiations.

Jackson

ahahahaha

It will be 5-10 years before any more expansion by the Big Four happens (B1G, PAC, B12, SEC). They're all sitting fat and happy with their TV deals.

BE expansion though I could see continue on for quite sometime. The BE is at 13 schools, it would make sense to head toward 16 I believe with Fresno, BYU, Air Force.

I: SDSU, Fresno, Boise, BYU, Air Force, SMU, Houston, Memphis
II: Louisville, Cincinnati, Temple, Navy, Rutgers, UConn, UCF, USF

To balance out the geography the league has to be looking at moving to 16 schools.

Should Louisville and Cincinnati go to the Big12 the Big East would reload with Army and Villanova. It will be a long time before CUSA has to worry about taking another hit from the Big East.

(05-01-2012 10:29 PM)Jackson1011 Wrote:  I'm fine with Louisville, but UC would have to agree to play all of there conference games at Paul Brown Staduim before I would even start the negotiations.

Jackson

Why give all the revenue to the Bengals? Why couldn't UC expand its stadium to 50,000? It would put them in line with TCU, Baylor, Kansas and Kansas State. It would be only 5,000 less than the capacity of Iowa State.

UC can use Paul Brown Stadium when Texas and Oklahoma come to town.

11/27/11
GSwaimBigTime TV/Radio

Sounds like #Syracuse basketball coach Jim Boeheim's job could be in serious jeopardy very shortly

So....do you think any of these geniuses will figure out what they are doing to college football with all this ridiculous conference musical chairs?

(05-01-2012 10:48 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  

(05-01-2012 10:29 PM)Jackson1011 Wrote:  I'm fine with Louisville, but UC would have to agree to play all of there conference games at Paul Brown Staduim before I would even start the negotiations.

Jackson

Why give all the revenue to the Bengals? Why couldn't UC expand its stadium to 50,000? It would put them in line with TCU, Baylor, Kansas and Kansas State. It would be only 5,000 less than the capacity of Iowa State.

UC can use Paul Brown Stadium when Texas and Oklahoma come to town.

would be very expensive and probably wouldn't fit available space with all the buildings nearly touching it as is.

(05-01-2012 11:15 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  So....do you think any of these geniuses will figure out what they are doing to college football with all this ridiculous conference musical chairs?

They told everyone awhile back exactly what they are doing but no one wanted to believe it then or now.

Paradigm shift to guarantee continued dominance by the powers without the threats from the mid majors and those not deemed worthy.

I followed Greg Swaim fairly closely on realignment. I don't know him from anywhere else, so I cannot speak to his knowledge on anything but realignment. Without looking up the details, I can say with confidence that I cannot recall one time when he ever got anything right, and I recall dozens of times he was wrong.

(05-01-2012 09:34 PM)buckaineer Wrote:  Ohio has over 11 million people and a large number of them aren't Buckeye fans. A good portion are Bearcat fans and a good portion will watch both.

They are the only two BCS programs in a huge football loving state.

Texas and Oklahoma and schools like WVU playing in Cincinnati will draw interest from football players in the state no doubt--has so far when OU and WVU played there (both recent games moved to Paul Brown for the larger crowds)

You may want to rethink that statement. OSU by far is the dominant school in the state of OH from both a fan and performance basis. Your "significant" number of fans may 20% tops of all fans, which I would put at maybe 1 - 1.2 million actual viewers.

Use some logic for once and look at this closely. Swaim claims that the SEC, Big12 and B1G will be expanding in 2013 - 2014. The schools on the move, according to Swaim, are FSU, Clemson, VT, UL and UC. So which one of those schools are going to the B1G? All of the crazy rumors are putting FSU and Clemson into the Big12 camp, we know VT is commonly referenced for the SEC (who is the other for the SEC?). That means UC and UL are B1G bound? NFW.

I swear that a number of posters on this board lack critical thinking skills.

(05-02-2012 07:44 AM)miko33 Wrote:  

(05-01-2012 09:34 PM)buckaineer Wrote:  Ohio has over 11 million people and a large number of them aren't Buckeye fans. A good portion are Bearcat fans and a good portion will watch both.

They are the only two BCS programs in a huge football loving state.

Texas and Oklahoma and schools like WVU playing in Cincinnati will draw interest from football players in the state no doubt--has so far when OU and WVU played there (both recent games moved to Paul Brown for the larger crowds)

You may want to rethink that statement. OSU by far is the dominant school in the state of OH from both a fan and performance basis. Your "significant" number of fans may 20% tops of all fans, which I would put at maybe 1 - 1.2 million actual viewers.

Use some logic for once and look at this closely. Swaim claims that the SEC, Big12 and B1G will be expanding in 2013 - 2014. The schools on the move, according to Swaim, are FSU, Clemson, VT, UL and UC. So which one of those schools are going to the B1G? All of the crazy rumors are putting FSU and Clemson into the Big12 camp, we know VT is commonly referenced for the SEC (who is the other for the SEC?). That means UC and UL are B1G bound? NFW.

I swear that a number of posters on this board lack critical thinking skills.

You are right to say Ohio State has the heart and minds of most of the people in the state. That being said if Cincinnati is playing Texas, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, etc. you'd better believe there will be a lot of television sets on in Cincinnati, Dayton, Columbus, Cleveland, Akron, Toledo and points in between. Those are sets that in the past was not watching Texas play Iowa State, Kansas, Texas Tech, etc.