BleedsHuskieRed
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Transfer question
So with all of these recent transfers happening, I have a question about transfers, scholarship releases, and sitting out a year. It has always been known as fact that when a player transfers to another D1 school, they have to sit out a year. However, if they are released from their scholarship they do not have to sit, is that correct? Is it just me or do we release players more often than other schools? Or is it because they are women's sports and they are more unimportant than football? I have a feeling if Jordan Lynch was to transfer, we would not grant him the release, but am I wrong in that assumption? Can anyone in the know explain this to me?
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04-16-2012 08:56 AM |
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RE: Transfer question
(This post was last modified: 04-16-2012 09:19 AM by HuskieJohn.)
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04-16-2012 09:12 AM |
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RE: Transfer question
You always have to sit out a year when transferring from NCAA D I to NCAA D I...or FBS to FBS.
The school that is losing the player can grant a waiver or the player can ask the NCAA for a waiver if the school isn't willing to do so.
For example, Trey Zeigler will no doubt ask CMU and/or the NCAA for a waiver to become eligible immediately for Pitt. He will argue that CMU could not expect him to stay in their program after they fired his dad and if they did, he would be unjustly penalized. I suspect the NCAA will rule in his favor...and I suspect CMU would give him the waiver anyhow.
Also, the Tennesse football team had a stud WR from the Saginaw area that was a frosh last year. Apparently he had a family member become very ill and he wanted to transfer out of Tennessee and enroll closer to home (ie-Michigan St). He asked the NCAA for a waiver, and I believe he will be approved because of the family situation.
Now, if the player wants out because of lack of playing time or a coaching change...sorry...but they have to sit out a year.
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04-16-2012 09:51 AM |
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RE: Transfer question
OK so why did NIU approve the VB players? If she just didn't like it here why should she get to play next year at MSU? Or if the womens BB player wants to leave after her freshman year why should she get a release?
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04-16-2012 10:21 AM |
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RE: Transfer question
Yea, I had the same question. I wonder what goes into that decision to waive? As I mentioned in another thread (and got shot down by 1 poster), I don't want to create a precedent (for NIU, that is) that we let everybody go and they don't have to sit out a year. Unless all the other schools are doing that too.
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04-16-2012 10:26 AM |
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RE: Transfer question
Scholarships are one year contracts. Student athletes should be allowed to change at anytime without penalty. This is just a non compete agreement
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04-16-2012 11:04 AM |
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RE: Transfer question
I have no idea why NIU granted transfer requests to their players (former). Under normal NCAA rules, they would have to sit out a year if NIU didn't grant the request.
Maybe it's because volleyball is a non revenue sport and they don't want to ruin their reputation amongst potential recruits?
If scholarship student athletes were allowed to switch schools at anytime without penalty...you would see more and more dynasties in college athletics. It would be pure chaos and the loyalty factor would be practically zero. Mid major programs would be raped of their best players and the gap between the BCS mega powers and everyone else would grow.
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04-16-2012 11:25 AM |
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RE: Transfer question
(04-16-2012 11:25 AM)EA3 Wrote: I have no idea why NIU granted transfer requests to their players (former). Under normal NCAA rules, they would have to sit out a year if NIU didn't grant the request.
Maybe it's because volleyball is a non revenue sport and they don't want to ruin their reputation amongst potential recruits?
If scholarship student athletes were allowed to switch schools at anytime without penalty...you would see more and more dynasties in college athletics. It would be pure chaos and the loyalty factor would be practically zero. Mid major programs would be raped of their best players and the gap between the BCS mega powers and everyone else would grow.
Exactly. It'd be like we were a JC.
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04-16-2012 11:36 AM |
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RE: Transfer question
(04-16-2012 08:56 AM)BleedsHuskieRed Wrote: So with all of these recent transfers happening, I have a question about transfers, scholarship releases, and sitting out a year. It has always been known as fact that when a player transfers to another D1 school, they have to sit out a year. However, if they are released from their scholarship they do not have to sit, is that correct? Is it just me or do we release players more often than other schools? Or is it because they are women's sports and they are more unimportant than football? I have a feeling if Jordan Lynch was to transfer, we would not grant him the release, but am I wrong in that assumption? Can anyone in the know explain this to me?
Assuming you mean D1 to D1, then for Olympic sports the school you are transferring from can, and often does, give you a full release to immediately compete at another school, D1 included.
Assuming you mean D1 to D1 then there are specific rules governing football, basketball, hockey and baseball that exclude you from competing right away, and generally those athletes must sit out one year.
It's really that simple.
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04-16-2012 12:27 PM |
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RE: Transfer question
if you don't give the waiver you look like a (whiskey)dick....and it will be used against you in recruiting. besides, do you really want a player who doesn't want to be there? that player would no doubt be a cancer....the waiver doesn't relate to playing right away--that is NCAA and conference rules that govern sitting so there isn't chaos every year and so the big boys don't cannibalize the have nots
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04-16-2012 04:04 PM |
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BleedsHuskieRed
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RE: Transfer question
(04-16-2012 04:04 PM)cagy cager Wrote: if you don't give the waiver you look like a (whiskey)dick....and it will be used against you in recruiting. besides, do you really want a player who doesn't want to be there? that player would no doubt be a cancer....the waiver doesn't relate to playing right away--that is NCAA and conference rules that govern sitting so there isn't chaos every year and so the big boys don't cannibalize the have nots
Even if you don't give them they waiver, they can still transfer, they just have to sit a year. That is what I would do in almost every situation. If you want to transfer, awesome, leave, but don't expect to play for another D1 school after we invested our time and money into you as a human being.
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04-16-2012 04:12 PM |
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