(04-09-2012 03:35 PM)EA3 Wrote:  Jim Christian and Kent lost to WMU back in 2004...and we were loaded that year.

That was 8 flipping years ago. We won the league by 2 games and went 26-5.

JC lost to CMU when they had Kaman. They also won the league by 2 games that year going 25-7.

I can handle the East is superior comments because they are true right now and have been since the 2004-05 season. But the two years prior, not so much.

Saying "he lost to the dynasties of Western Michigan and Central Michigan and beat Toledo and Akron. So, he’s 2 for 4 in final games with two finals losses to West programs" is extremely misleading given the teams he lost to.

Geesch, first I miss a loaded MAC and then I miss dynasties from WMU and CMU. Where have I been?

(04-09-2012 08:26 PM)FlashFan Wrote:  

(04-09-2012 03:24 PM)JSF Wrote:  

(04-09-2012 09:40 AM)FlashFan Wrote:  Your new coach played in a much weaker MAC and got to the final 4 of 6 times.

I don't know where this started, but it's not true. MAC was stronger when Christian was at Kent than it has been since he left.

Oh, my bad. I was watching a one bid league with half the teams with an RPI over 200 (many well over). I remember tortured debated on this board to how we were lapped by first the Valley and then Horizon. Many NCAA bids with a 12 or 13 seed.

I wasn’t watching what you were watching.

MAC RPI by year, according to Stat Sheet, starting in 2002-03: 11, 14, 10, 17, 15, 12, 21, 16, 20, 17.

I have to admit you are right. To support your idea, looked up the NCAA seeds:

03 CMU 11
04 WMU 11
05 Ohio 13
06 KSU 12
07 Miami 14
08 KSU 9
09 Akron 13
10 Ohio 14
11 Akron 15
12 Ohio 13

So, I’ll amend my statement. JC won in a weak basketball league. He went to a much better league ( ranked #5 in conference RPI of the last two seasons), saw the truck coming at him in the Big 12 ( ranked #3 in RPI) and comes back to the MAC ( ranked #18) where he knows he can win.
http://WarrenNolan.com/basketball/2012/conferencerpi

Man, remember when a 13 seed was a slap in the face?