(04-03-2012 01:40 PM)ecuacc4ever Wrote:  One man's opinion of some of the great rivalries -- some diminished by Expansion 2004.

FSU/Miami
Prior to Expansion 2004, this was a rivalry virtually on par with Auburn/Alabama. Post-Expansion 2004, however, not so much. Both schools have declined. It's media contrived, but it's not a supreme rivalry now.

Clemson/North Carolina
Prior to Expansion 2004, this was an AWESOME heated rivalry for all the reasons CatDaddy could ever list. Now? Nope.

FSU/Georgia Tech
Another AWESOME rivalry ruined by Expansion 2004.

Maryland/NC State
One of the remaining good rivalries that survived Expansion 2004. Admittedly, it's more heated when both schools have 'juice'.

VT/Clemson
Has potential, but again, the cross-division rotation stymies it.

I like 'Clemson/GT', but it's not as strong as FSU/GT used to be.

NC State/Duke -- some of the best, most entertaining ACC games, EVER, happened when these two met on a regular basis.

If the ACC wanted to do us all a favor, they could simply KILL the Wake Forest / Duke annual pairing. No one outside of maybe Lucy cares about it.

dook is a conference win which is always good for the stats, but I definitely don't care about that game. In fact if the Wake/dook game conflicts with an NC State home game, my husband & I will go to the State game (we have season tickets at both Wake & State).

Clemson/NC State play for bragging rights in the "Textile Bowl" each year, so while there is some mutual respect between the 2 engineering schools of the Carolinas, it should be considered a rivalry for the fact that the schools play hard to bring home that trophy.

Clemson/GT has always been a more heated game than FSU/GT, per my GT-grad brother & my numerous Yellow Jacket friends from back home in Georgia.

(04-04-2012 03:55 PM)Lucy Wrote:  dook is a conference win which is always good for the stats, but I definitely don't care about that game. In fact if the Wake/dook game conflicts with an NC State home game, my husband & I will go to the State game (we have season tickets at both Wake & State).

Clemson/NC State play for bragging rights in the "Textile Bowl" each year, so while there is some mutual respect between the 2 engineering schools of the Carolinas, it should be considered a rivalry for the fact that the schools play hard to bring home that trophy.

Clemson/GT has always been a more heated game than FSU/GT, per my GT-grad brother & my numerous Yellow Jacket friends from back home in Georgia.

Good points.
1) Why won't Dook just leave the ACC and join the Big East where they belong?
2) I'm old enough to remember Dick Sheridan vs. Danny Ford - that was the heyday of the NC St vs. Clemson rivalry, IMO.
3) I never got the sense that GT / FSU was all that much of a rivalry even when it was annual - at least, not like Clemson / FSU or Miami / FSU. It seems like Clemson has always been GT's biggest rivals (though the VT / GT rivalry keeps getting hotter).

1) Because Duke is a founding member of the ACC.
1b) And because the last thing you want is Duke basketball as a Big East member. It would totally offset the inclusions of both Pitt and Syracuse.

2) That 1987 game in Death Valley was "something" to behold. Never expected State to hang 30 on Clemson in the first half.

3) I always had the sense that FSU/GT was a strong rivalry, producing great TV matchups each year prior to Expansion 2004.