No one is going to know who wins it until someone does can we all agree on that? Just about every team is returning something good next year.

(03-30-2012 03:59 PM)HILTOPWKU Wrote:  People it is the SYSTEM. Our running backs will have approx. the
same # of yards that Rainey had. Our passing game will be
MUCH improved. Our defense will also be much improved
FIU will be our main competition.

You are going to be sorely disappointed friend. If your running backs have approximately the same number of yards as Rainey, they'll be doing it on a good deal more carries, you just don't replace a guy like Rainey. I'm not saying you guys don't have capable guys behind him, but you don't have another Rainey. Losing Rainey by itself is not what makes you guys take a step back this year, it's the chain reaction losing Rainey causes. Jakes was pretty awful last year with an all world running back to hand the ball off to, he won't have that this year. Your defense was strong, at least in part, because they had Rainey sustaining drives. Jakes and your defense could both improve, but the team could still take a step back without Rainey.

I'm sorry, but Jakes is not a guy who can lead a team to a conference championship, not without the help of a guy like Rainey.

(03-30-2012 03:32 PM)MTowho Wrote:  Defense is definitely what got WKU to get 7 wins. That said, they were 3 plays from being 4-8 and not even in the conversation.

Hey, I'm not bashing them for a 7 win season. We certainly didn't get it done on our end in the game against them and all season, but I'm just sayin'.

Losing Rainey will put more pressure on the offense to pass the ball. Rainey alone increased WKU's ability to sustain drives and keep the defense off the field. If they offense can't stay on the field, the defense will suffer - see MT in 2011.

Just looking at the box score for the WKU-Troy game last year - 64 rushing attempts versus 18 passing. Rainey got 43 of those. I have no idea who is taking his place and if they are even in the same universe as far as talent goes, but there is no question that losing Rainey will hurt WKU's chances for a repeat of last season's success.

Oh yeah, and all I can think about is how awful Jakes was against us last year. Yet we still managed to find a way to lose.

We were also one spot away from being the conference champion. That game goes both ways.

(03-31-2012 10:19 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(03-30-2012 03:59 PM)HILTOPWKU Wrote:  People it is the SYSTEM. Our running backs will have approx. the
same # of yards that Rainey had. Our passing game will be
MUCH improved. Our defense will also be much improved
FIU will be our main competition.

You are going to be sorely disappointed friend. If your running backs have approximately the same number of yards as Rainey, they'll be doing it on a good deal more carries, you just don't replace a guy like Rainey. I'm not saying you guys don't have capable guys behind him, but you don't have another Rainey. Losing Rainey by itself is not what makes you guys take a step back this year, it's the chain reaction losing Rainey causes. Jakes was pretty awful last year with an all world running back to hand the ball off to, he won't have that this year. Your defense was strong, at least in part, because they had Rainey sustaining drives. Jakes and your defense could both improve, but the team could still take a step back without Rainey.

I'm sorry, but Jakes is not a guy who can lead a team to a conference championship, not without the help of a guy like Rainey.

jakes was good enough to beat every team in the conference except the red woofs.

he'll be better this year.

if you know football (i believe you do) then you know any back racking up big yardage is dependent on the o-line. we finally have a legit d1 o-line. we lost one guy off that line.

as special a kid as bobby was he's getting ZERO love from the nfl prognosticators. why? if we were a one man team simply because of him i'd expect more love for bobby.

you're ignoring how committed that stanford/harbaugh offense is committed to running the ball. willie is going to have jakes handing it off over and over until he finds the guy ready to produce whether it's keyshaun simpson, john evans, or antonio andrews. or some kid that redshirted last year.

i didn't say we would win the league but i also can't drop a trite little 'nope' on us.

if you're that dialed into western i still want your confident call on who does win this conference.

some of you folks are in for a surprise this year if you believe we're rolling into the fetal position and crying 'bobby, bobby, bobby'.

our defense will be our best ever by far.

jakes will be much improved (he went 7-1 against the belt)

our receiving corps will be infinitely improved and we have the best tight end in the conference which this offense loves to use.

damn i'm ready to show the haters out. lol.

USA going undefeated next year with away wins at NCState and MState.

We get an at-large bcs bid because people are just so impressed they give us a waiver despite our transition status.

Afterwards we break off to become an independent and sit at the table with Notre Dame and discuss gentlemanly things such as top hats and pipes.



Man I'm hungry right now.

(03-31-2012 04:29 PM)Tiguar Wrote:  USA going undefeated next year with away wins at NCState and MState.

We get an at-large bcs bid because people are just so impressed they give us a waiver despite our transition status.

Afterwards we break off to become an independent and sit at the table with Notre Dame and discuss gentlemanly things such as top hats and pipes.



Man I'm hungry right now.

(03-31-2012 03:19 PM)dahbeed Wrote:  

(03-31-2012 10:19 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(03-30-2012 03:59 PM)HILTOPWKU Wrote:  People it is the SYSTEM. Our running backs will have approx. the
same # of yards that Rainey had. Our passing game will be
MUCH improved. Our defense will also be much improved
FIU will be our main competition.

You are going to be sorely disappointed friend. If your running backs have approximately the same number of yards as Rainey, they'll be doing it on a good deal more carries, you just don't replace a guy like Rainey. I'm not saying you guys don't have capable guys behind him, but you don't have another Rainey. Losing Rainey by itself is not what makes you guys take a step back this year, it's the chain reaction losing Rainey causes. Jakes was pretty awful last year with an all world running back to hand the ball off to, he won't have that this year. Your defense was strong, at least in part, because they had Rainey sustaining drives. Jakes and your defense could both improve, but the team could still take a step back without Rainey.

I'm sorry, but Jakes is not a guy who can lead a team to a conference championship, not without the help of a guy like Rainey.

jakes was good enough to beat every team in the conference except the red woofs.

he'll be better this year.

if you know football (i believe you do) then you know any back racking up big yardage is dependent on the o-line. we finally have a legit d1 o-line. we lost one guy off that line.

as special a kid as bobby was he's getting ZERO love from the nfl prognosticators. why? if we were a one man team simply because of him i'd expect more love for bobby.

you're ignoring how committed that stanford/harbaugh offense is committed to running the ball. willie is going to have jakes handing it off over and over until he finds the guy ready to produce whether it's keyshaun simpson, john evans, or antonio andrews. or some kid that redshirted last year.

i didn't say we would win the league but i also can't drop a trite little 'nope' on us.

if you're that dialed into western i still want your confident call on who does win this conference.

some of you folks are in for a surprise this year if you believe we're rolling into the fetal position and crying 'bobby, bobby, bobby'.

our defense will be our best ever by far.

jakes will be much improved (he went 7-1 against the belt)

our receiving corps will be infinitely improved and we have the best tight end in the conference which this offense loves to use.

damn i'm ready to show the haters out. lol.

Jakes isn't good enough. He just isn't.

I agree that BR was a special player and will not exactly be replaced by committee.

I also agree with Beed that the receiving core will be much improved.

Becasue of Bobby last year we relied on RBs a ridiculous, disproportionate amount of the time.

RB's will still be a big part of our game but to a lesser extent than this year. Passing game will become much more important and the offense will become more balanced and effective. A LOT of Jakes' passing woes were due to receivers being out of position and just dropping passes. Jakes will never be John Elway but he can make enough mid to short range passes to keep defenses backed off a little and his running game is solid.

What if Smith beats out Jakes for QB?

(03-31-2012 03:19 PM)dahbeed Wrote:  jakes was good enough to beat every team in the conference except the red woofs.

Not true. Jakes was good enough to beat stAte . . . it just didn't play out that way.

That said . . . glad he's your QB and not mine.

(04-01-2012 03:32 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(03-31-2012 03:19 PM)dahbeed Wrote:  

(03-31-2012 10:19 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(03-30-2012 03:59 PM)HILTOPWKU Wrote:  People it is the SYSTEM. Our running backs will have approx. the
same # of yards that Rainey had. Our passing game will be
MUCH improved. Our defense will also be much improved
FIU will be our main competition.

You are going to be sorely disappointed friend. If your running backs have approximately the same number of yards as Rainey, they'll be doing it on a good deal more carries, you just don't replace a guy like Rainey. I'm not saying you guys don't have capable guys behind him, but you don't have another Rainey. Losing Rainey by itself is not what makes you guys take a step back this year, it's the chain reaction losing Rainey causes. Jakes was pretty awful last year with an all world running back to hand the ball off to, he won't have that this year. Your defense was strong, at least in part, because they had Rainey sustaining drives. Jakes and your defense could both improve, but the team could still take a step back without Rainey.

I'm sorry, but Jakes is not a guy who can lead a team to a conference championship, not without the help of a guy like Rainey.

jakes was good enough to beat every team in the conference except the red woofs.

he'll be better this year.

if you know football (i believe you do) then you know any back racking up big yardage is dependent on the o-line. we finally have a legit d1 o-line. we lost one guy off that line.

as special a kid as bobby was he's getting ZERO love from the nfl prognosticators. why? if we were a one man team simply because of him i'd expect more love for bobby.

you're ignoring how committed that stanford/harbaugh offense is committed to running the ball. willie is going to have jakes handing it off over and over until he finds the guy ready to produce whether it's keyshaun simpson, john evans, or antonio andrews. or some kid that redshirted last year.

i didn't say we would win the league but i also can't drop a trite little 'nope' on us.

if you're that dialed into western i still want your confident call on who does win this conference.

some of you folks are in for a surprise this year if you believe we're rolling into the fetal position and crying 'bobby, bobby, bobby'.

our defense will be our best ever by far.

jakes will be much improved (he went 7-1 against the belt)

our receiving corps will be infinitely improved and we have the best tight end in the conference which this offense loves to use.

damn i'm ready to show the haters out. lol.

Jakes isn't good enough. He just isn't.

he was good enough to beat YOU. lol.

(04-02-2012 07:39 AM)dahbeed Wrote:  

(04-01-2012 03:32 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(03-31-2012 03:19 PM)dahbeed Wrote:  

(03-31-2012 10:19 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(03-30-2012 03:59 PM)HILTOPWKU Wrote:  People it is the SYSTEM. Our running backs will have approx. the
same # of yards that Rainey had. Our passing game will be
MUCH improved. Our defense will also be much improved
FIU will be our main competition.

You are going to be sorely disappointed friend. If your running backs have approximately the same number of yards as Rainey, they'll be doing it on a good deal more carries, you just don't replace a guy like Rainey. I'm not saying you guys don't have capable guys behind him, but you don't have another Rainey. Losing Rainey by itself is not what makes you guys take a step back this year, it's the chain reaction losing Rainey causes. Jakes was pretty awful last year with an all world running back to hand the ball off to, he won't have that this year. Your defense was strong, at least in part, because they had Rainey sustaining drives. Jakes and your defense could both improve, but the team could still take a step back without Rainey.

I'm sorry, but Jakes is not a guy who can lead a team to a conference championship, not without the help of a guy like Rainey.

jakes was good enough to beat every team in the conference except the red woofs.

he'll be better this year.

if you know football (i believe you do) then you know any back racking up big yardage is dependent on the o-line. we finally have a legit d1 o-line. we lost one guy off that line.

as special a kid as bobby was he's getting ZERO love from the nfl prognosticators. why? if we were a one man team simply because of him i'd expect more love for bobby.

you're ignoring how committed that stanford/harbaugh offense is committed to running the ball. willie is going to have jakes handing it off over and over until he finds the guy ready to produce whether it's keyshaun simpson, john evans, or antonio andrews. or some kid that redshirted last year.

i didn't say we would win the league but i also can't drop a trite little 'nope' on us.

if you're that dialed into western i still want your confident call on who does win this conference.

some of you folks are in for a surprise this year if you believe we're rolling into the fetal position and crying 'bobby, bobby, bobby'.

our defense will be our best ever by far.

jakes will be much improved (he went 7-1 against the belt)

our receiving corps will be infinitely improved and we have the best tight end in the conference which this offense loves to use.

damn i'm ready to show the haters out. lol.

Jakes isn't good enough. He just isn't.

he was good enough to beat YOU. lol.

C'mon beed, you're smarter than this. WKU was good enough and Bobby Rainey was good enough, to win in spite of Jakes.

I decline to testify on the quarterbacking ability of Tijuan Jakes on the bonds that it may incriminate myself or my party.

(04-02-2012 12:49 PM)cajunhawk Wrote:  I decline to testify on the quarterbacking ability of Tijuan Jakes on the bonds that it may incriminate myself or my party.

Yeah....Jakes has had you guys number for sure, that said I don't expect three years in a row of that

(04-02-2012 11:49 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(04-02-2012 07:39 AM)dahbeed Wrote:  

(04-01-2012 03:32 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(03-31-2012 03:19 PM)dahbeed Wrote:  

(03-31-2012 10:19 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  You are going to be sorely disappointed friend. If your running backs have approximately the same number of yards as Rainey, they'll be doing it on a good deal more carries, you just don't replace a guy like Rainey. I'm not saying you guys don't have capable guys behind him, but you don't have another Rainey. Losing Rainey by itself is not what makes you guys take a step back this year, it's the chain reaction losing Rainey causes. Jakes was pretty awful last year with an all world running back to hand the ball off to, he won't have that this year. Your defense was strong, at least in part, because they had Rainey sustaining drives. Jakes and your defense could both improve, but the team could still take a step back without Rainey.

I'm sorry, but Jakes is not a guy who can lead a team to a conference championship, not without the help of a guy like Rainey.

jakes was good enough to beat every team in the conference except the red woofs.

he'll be better this year.

if you know football (i believe you do) then you know any back racking up big yardage is dependent on the o-line. we finally have a legit d1 o-line. we lost one guy off that line.

as special a kid as bobby was he's getting ZERO love from the nfl prognosticators. why? if we were a one man team simply because of him i'd expect more love for bobby.

you're ignoring how committed that stanford/harbaugh offense is committed to running the ball. willie is going to have jakes handing it off over and over until he finds the guy ready to produce whether it's keyshaun simpson, john evans, or antonio andrews. or some kid that redshirted last year.

i didn't say we would win the league but i also can't drop a trite little 'nope' on us.

if you're that dialed into western i still want your confident call on who does win this conference.

some of you folks are in for a surprise this year if you believe we're rolling into the fetal position and crying 'bobby, bobby, bobby'.

our defense will be our best ever by far.

jakes will be much improved (he went 7-1 against the belt)

our receiving corps will be infinitely improved and we have the best tight end in the conference which this offense loves to use.

damn i'm ready to show the haters out. lol.

Jakes isn't good enough. He just isn't.

he was good enough to beat YOU. lol.

C'mon beed, you're smarter than this. WKU was good enough and Bobby Rainey was good enough, to win in spite of Jakes.

low hanging fruit.

who threw the game winning td pass?

(04-02-2012 11:49 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(04-02-2012 07:39 AM)dahbeed Wrote:  

(04-01-2012 03:32 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(03-31-2012 03:19 PM)dahbeed Wrote:  

(03-31-2012 10:19 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  You are going to be sorely disappointed friend. If your running backs have approximately the same number of yards as Rainey, they'll be doing it on a good deal more carries, you just don't replace a guy like Rainey. I'm not saying you guys don't have capable guys behind him, but you don't have another Rainey. Losing Rainey by itself is not what makes you guys take a step back this year, it's the chain reaction losing Rainey causes. Jakes was pretty awful last year with an all world running back to hand the ball off to, he won't have that this year. Your defense was strong, at least in part, because they had Rainey sustaining drives. Jakes and your defense could both improve, but the team could still take a step back without Rainey.

I'm sorry, but Jakes is not a guy who can lead a team to a conference championship, not without the help of a guy like Rainey.

jakes was good enough to beat every team in the conference except the red woofs.

he'll be better this year.

if you know football (i believe you do) then you know any back racking up big yardage is dependent on the o-line. we finally have a legit d1 o-line. we lost one guy off that line.

as special a kid as bobby was he's getting ZERO love from the nfl prognosticators. why? if we were a one man team simply because of him i'd expect more love for bobby.

you're ignoring how committed that stanford/harbaugh offense is committed to running the ball. willie is going to have jakes handing it off over and over until he finds the guy ready to produce whether it's keyshaun simpson, john evans, or antonio andrews. or some kid that redshirted last year.

i didn't say we would win the league but i also can't drop a trite little 'nope' on us.

if you're that dialed into western i still want your confident call on who does win this conference.

some of you folks are in for a surprise this year if you believe we're rolling into the fetal position and crying 'bobby, bobby, bobby'.

our defense will be our best ever by far.

jakes will be much improved (he went 7-1 against the belt)

our receiving corps will be infinitely improved and we have the best tight end in the conference which this offense loves to use.

damn i'm ready to show the haters out. lol.

Jakes isn't good enough. He just isn't.

he was good enough to beat YOU. lol.

C'mon beed, you're smarter than this. WKU was good enough and Bobby Rainey was good enough, to win in spite of Jakes.

Jakes was by far the most improved player last year for WKU, but that improvement did not start until 5-6 games into the season. Jakes played like his life depended on it the second half of the season and I expect the same this year with a very good elite 11 QB waiting for him to hiccup and snatch his spot away

(04-02-2012 12:57 PM)dahbeed Wrote:  

(04-02-2012 11:49 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(04-02-2012 07:39 AM)dahbeed Wrote:  

(04-01-2012 03:32 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(03-31-2012 03:19 PM)dahbeed Wrote:  jakes was good enough to beat every team in the conference except the red woofs.

he'll be better this year.

if you know football (i believe you do) then you know any back racking up big yardage is dependent on the o-line. we finally have a legit d1 o-line. we lost one guy off that line.

as special a kid as bobby was he's getting ZERO love from the nfl prognosticators. why? if we were a one man team simply because of him i'd expect more love for bobby.

you're ignoring how committed that stanford/harbaugh offense is committed to running the ball. willie is going to have jakes handing it off over and over until he finds the guy ready to produce whether it's keyshaun simpson, john evans, or antonio andrews. or some kid that redshirted last year.

i didn't say we would win the league but i also can't drop a trite little 'nope' on us.

if you're that dialed into western i still want your confident call on who does win this conference.

some of you folks are in for a surprise this year if you believe we're rolling into the fetal position and crying 'bobby, bobby, bobby'.

our defense will be our best ever by far.

jakes will be much improved (he went 7-1 against the belt)

our receiving corps will be infinitely improved and we have the best tight end in the conference which this offense loves to use.

damn i'm ready to show the haters out. lol.

Jakes isn't good enough. He just isn't.

he was good enough to beat YOU. lol.

C'mon beed, you're smarter than this. WKU was good enough and Bobby Rainey was good enough, to win in spite of Jakes.

low hanging fruit.

who threw the game winning td pass?

I'm not talking about just our game, I'm talking in general, but even in our game he was mediocre at best. The game winning TD pass was his only one of the game(and 10% of his TDs for the season) and the completed pass got him back to 50% completion for the day. Even still that 2nd OT started with two consecutive incompletions by Jakes, it's only thanks to Rainey's 11 yard run on 3rd 10 that Jakes had the opportunity to throw the game winning TD rather than trotting the kicker out there to attempt to tie the game.

(04-02-2012 01:16 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(04-02-2012 12:57 PM)dahbeed Wrote:  

(04-02-2012 11:49 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(04-02-2012 07:39 AM)dahbeed Wrote:  

(04-01-2012 03:32 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  Jakes isn't good enough. He just isn't.

he was good enough to beat YOU. lol.

C'mon beed, you're smarter than this. WKU was good enough and Bobby Rainey was good enough, to win in spite of Jakes.

low hanging fruit.

who threw the game winning td pass?

I'm not talking about just our game, I'm talking in general, but even in our game he was mediocre at best. The game winning TD pass was his only one of the game(and 10% of his TDs for the season) and the completed pass got him back to 50% completion for the day. Even still that 2nd OT started with two consecutive incompletions by Jakes, it's only thanks to Rainey's 11 yard run on 3rd 10 that Jakes had the opportunity to throw the game winning TD rather than trotting the kicker out there to attempt to tie the game.

so you're admitting he's clutch?

(04-02-2012 02:11 PM)dahbeed Wrote:  

(04-02-2012 01:16 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(04-02-2012 12:57 PM)dahbeed Wrote:  

(04-02-2012 11:49 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(04-02-2012 07:39 AM)dahbeed Wrote:  he was good enough to beat YOU. lol.

C'mon beed, you're smarter than this. WKU was good enough and Bobby Rainey was good enough, to win in spite of Jakes.

Clutch? In the fourth quarter and two OT periods he combined to go 4-11 for 33 yards and the game winning touchdown.

Both OT possessions for WKU were extended by Rainey when Jakes struggled. In the 2nd OT Rainey got 18 of the 25 yards on back to back carries on 3rd and 10 and the subsequent 1st and 10. To top it all off, who did Jakes throw to on the game winning TD? Rainey.

If Jakes is your starter for a significant amount of the season, you will not win the conference. A guy who completes 55% of his passes and throws just 10 TD to 12 INTs can not lead a team to a championship, especially not after losing an all world running back.

low hanging fruit.

who threw the game winning td pass?

I'm not talking about just our game, I'm talking in general, but even in our game he was mediocre at best. The game winning TD pass was his only one of the game(and 10% of his TDs for the season) and the completed pass got him back to 50% completion for the day. Even still that 2nd OT started with two consecutive incompletions by Jakes, it's only thanks to Rainey's 11 yard run on 3rd 10 that Jakes had the opportunity to throw the game winning TD rather than trotting the kicker out there to attempt to tie the game.

so you're admitting he's clutch?

(04-02-2012 12:57 PM)dahbeed Wrote:  

(04-02-2012 11:49 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(04-02-2012 07:39 AM)dahbeed Wrote:  

(04-01-2012 03:32 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(03-31-2012 03:19 PM)dahbeed Wrote:  jakes was good enough to beat every team in the conference except the red woofs.

he'll be better this year.

if you know football (i believe you do) then you know any back racking up big yardage is dependent on the o-line. we finally have a legit d1 o-line. we lost one guy off that line.

as special a kid as bobby was he's getting ZERO love from the nfl prognosticators. why? if we were a one man team simply because of him i'd expect more love for bobby.

you're ignoring how committed that stanford/harbaugh offense is committed to running the ball. willie is going to have jakes handing it off over and over until he finds the guy ready to produce whether it's keyshaun simpson, john evans, or antonio andrews. or some kid that redshirted last year.

i didn't say we would win the league but i also can't drop a trite little 'nope' on us.

if you're that dialed into western i still want your confident call on who does win this conference.

some of you folks are in for a surprise this year if you believe we're rolling into the fetal position and crying 'bobby, bobby, bobby'.

our defense will be our best ever by far.

jakes will be much improved (he went 7-1 against the belt)

our receiving corps will be infinitely improved and we have the best tight end in the conference which this offense loves to use.

damn i'm ready to show the haters out. lol.

Jakes isn't good enough. He just isn't.

he was good enough to beat YOU. lol.

C'mon beed, you're smarter than this. WKU was good enough and Bobby Rainey was good enough, to win in spite of Jakes.

low hanging fruit.

who threw the game winning td pass?

Jakes was good enough to beat a 2-10 team's defense, which gave up a horrible amount of yards and points per game. Remember that it was just barely. Honestly you'd impress me more if we did better last year. But... we didn't, and Jakes almost lost the game for you guys against us multiple times. You won, but barely, and against one of our worst teams in recent history. Not something I'd be proud of, that's just me though

(03-30-2012 05:00 PM)cajunhawk Wrote:  Mark Hudspeth with an entire season under his belt, Rusty Whitt with an entire season to condition these athletes, all but 2 offensive starters returning, 4 SEC transfers starting on defense, coming off of the ONLY Sun Belt bowl win for the 2011 season. It's not gonna be pretty for the remainder of the belt when we hit the field this year.

while i will give you that he did a great job last year. hanging your hat on the "only bowl win" the team you played didn't win their conference. and you had a whole coaching staff. not volunteer coaches. feel free to toot your own horn about your transfers and Rusty twit, but don't hang your hat on that bowl win that was basically a home game against san diego state. and I'm not saying that UL won't win the belt. but i will say that to do that they are still gonna have to beat state and one of the best offensive minds in college football. and not to mention the sunbelt player of the year. we only lost 2 offensive starters as well. a o line and frampton.