(03-28-2012 10:40 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  One of the first adjustments for ASU fans will be just to Malzahn's character. He is a man of few words.

His wife makes up for him in that department

(03-29-2012 12:15 PM)warhawk09 Wrote:  

(03-28-2012 10:40 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  One of the first adjustments for ASU fans will be just to Malzahn's character. He is a man of few words.

His wife makes up for him in that department

she is goofy but win 10 games a year for at least next 5 years or be like ulm and win 10 games combined over 5 years take your pick

(03-27-2012 01:03 PM)WinstonTheWolf Wrote:  

(03-27-2012 12:13 PM)OwlFamily Wrote:  

(03-26-2012 10:02 PM)Fanof49ASU Wrote:  I sure hope this works....because if it fails, it will be a tough sell to get the backers to pony up at this level again.

On that note, what is the expectation level from Gus and the program?

Will fans/administration only be happy with confrecne championships every year or will they be understanding if there is a drop off every now and then?

Exciting time for stAte and the 'Belt. We gotta get one of those top 25 teams ASAP.

I think the next "level" is to get to 7+ wins/bowl most every year as a worst case baseline.
Our fans have lost for so long they won't ***** about this for a while anyway.

But, The level the AD, President, and Malzahn are "selling" to recruits and potential boosters is the level of top 25 on a regular basis - and winning 9+ games - and being recognized more nationally. Part of this is going to only 1 money game, and making it NOT against a top 5 or 10 program like Oregon this year. The rest is increasing talent level and support.

I think for this to work, and for the administration to get donations up to that level they plan/hope - Gus will have to win 9+ starting 2013 or else the momentum will have been depleted somewhat.

Glad you pointed out what they are saying as opposed to what you are saying or thinking because they are not the same and I don't think that winning 7-9 games as a SBC team will get it done. Why don't you just ask Malzahn what his expetations are for his team and he will tell you.

As an added note your men’s basketball coach has told the Administration that he has the same goals for his program as Malzahn and is going to do whatever it takes within the rules to win, and the APR can take care of itself, so they can back him or sack him. I think they have decided to back him, so look for some changes in that program.

We have a lot of changes coming in Mens Basketball. Ive heard that several times recently.

(03-29-2012 02:13 PM)Seminole Indian Wrote:  

(03-27-2012 01:03 PM)WinstonTheWolf Wrote:  

(03-27-2012 12:13 PM)OwlFamily Wrote:  

(03-26-2012 10:02 PM)Fanof49ASU Wrote:  I sure hope this works....because if it fails, it will be a tough sell to get the backers to pony up at this level again.

On that note, what is the expectation level from Gus and the program?

Will fans/administration only be happy with confrecne championships every year or will they be understanding if there is a drop off every now and then?

Exciting time for stAte and the 'Belt. We gotta get one of those top 25 teams ASAP.

I think the next "level" is to get to 7+ wins/bowl most every year as a worst case baseline.
Our fans have lost for so long they won't ***** about this for a while anyway.

But, The level the AD, President, and Malzahn are "selling" to recruits and potential boosters is the level of top 25 on a regular basis - and winning 9+ games - and being recognized more nationally. Part of this is going to only 1 money game, and making it NOT against a top 5 or 10 program like Oregon this year. The rest is increasing talent level and support.

I think for this to work, and for the administration to get donations up to that level they plan/hope - Gus will have to win 9+ starting 2013 or else the momentum will have been depleted somewhat.

Why don't you just ask Malzahn what his expetations are for his team and he will tell you.

His expectations are much, much higher. But I'm saying that I will be pleased with 7 wins and a bowl win. I hope he achieves all of his expectations....but I am not going to be upset with him over 7 wins and a bowl win.

(03-29-2012 04:12 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  

(03-29-2012 02:13 PM)Seminole Indian Wrote:  

(03-27-2012 01:03 PM)WinstonTheWolf Wrote:  

(03-27-2012 12:13 PM)OwlFamily Wrote:  

(03-26-2012 10:02 PM)Fanof49ASU Wrote:  I sure hope this works....because if it fails, it will be a tough sell to get the backers to pony up at this level again.

On that note, what is the expectation level from Gus and the program?

Will fans/administration only be happy with confrecne championships every year or will they be understanding if there is a drop off every now and then?

Exciting time for stAte and the 'Belt. We gotta get one of those top 25 teams ASAP.

I think the next "level" is to get to 7+ wins/bowl most every year as a worst case baseline.
Our fans have lost for so long they won't ***** about this for a while anyway.

But, The level the AD, President, and Malzahn are "selling" to recruits and potential boosters is the level of top 25 on a regular basis - and winning 9+ games - and being recognized more nationally. Part of this is going to only 1 money game, and making it NOT against a top 5 or 10 program like Oregon this year. The rest is increasing talent level and support.

I think for this to work, and for the administration to get donations up to that level they plan/hope - Gus will have to win 9+ starting 2013 or else the momentum will have been depleted somewhat.

Why don't you just ask Malzahn what his expetations are for his team and he will tell you.

His expectations are much, much higher. But I'm saying that I will be pleased with 7 wins and a bowl win. I hope he achieves all of his expectations....but I am not going to be upset with him over 7 wins and a bowl win.

I think most ASU fans would be very, very happy with a string of 7-8 win seasons, but apparently Malzahn would not.

There are some other SBC schools capable of obtaining a high level of sustained success and Malzahn is very aware of that fact, so it should be interesting going forward.

(03-29-2012 04:00 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  We have a lot of changes coming in Mens Basketball. Ive heard that several times recently.

My impression is that in football the only person that will be really upset if ASU takes 2-3 years to hang 10 again will be Malzahn.

In men’s basketball it is game-on, right now.

Many posters who have given Brady a hard time, especially about this past season, don’t really know how hogtied he has been up until this point at ASU. Just say he has been untied and I think the SBC is about to find out what he is capable of doing.

(03-29-2012 05:13 PM)Seminole Indian Wrote:  

(03-29-2012 04:00 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  We have a lot of changes coming in Mens Basketball. Ive heard that several times recently.

My impression is that in football the only person that will be really upset if ASU takes 2-3 years to hang 10 again will be Malzahn.

In men’s basketball it is game-on, right now.

Many posters who have given Brady a hard time, especially about this past season, don’t really know how hogtied he has been up until this point at ASU. Just say he has been untied and I think the SBC is about to find out what he is capable of doing.

who hogtied him and who and how was he unhogtied???

i've always thought he was overrated but that is just my own personal opinion.

i haven't seen him do anything that dick nutt or nelson catalina couldn't do.

i do know i didn't want to play asu in our tourney. we couldn't stop the big guy at all. scrub had a good first half but we kinda scrubbed him in the second half and made him a non factor. the football player killed us too.

yall have everyone back except for kirkland right? you should be pretty good imo next year. the whole league should be though.

(03-29-2012 06:47 PM)dahbeed Wrote:  

(03-29-2012 05:13 PM)Seminole Indian Wrote:  

(03-29-2012 04:00 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  We have a lot of changes coming in Mens Basketball. Ive heard that several times recently.

My impression is that in football the only person that will be really upset if ASU takes 2-3 years to hang 10 again will be Malzahn.

In men’s basketball it is game-on, right now.

Many posters who have given Brady a hard time, especially about this past season, don’t really know how hogtied he has been up until this point at ASU. Just say he has been untied and I think the SBC is about to find out what he is capable of doing.

who hogtied him and who and how was he unhogtied???

i've always thought he was overrated but that is just my own personal opinion.

i haven't seen him do anything that dick nutt or nelson catalina couldn't do.

i do know i didn't want to play asu in our tourney. we couldn't stop the big guy at all. scrub had a good first half but we kinda scrubbed him in the second half and made him a non factor. the football player killed us too.

yall have everyone back except for kirkland right? you should be pretty good imo next year. the whole league should be though.

Everyone but Kirkland will be back, unless he jettisons some dead weight. Big 6-8 Houston transfer set to step in for Kirkland.


Brady is a much better fundamental/game coach than Nutt. He knows what he is doing. His problem is being too old school to be as effective as he could with recruiting/keeping today's players.

He made stAte better from November to February. stAte just didn't have the depth/talent - and that's Brady's responsibility.

Had this team retained Adams and Brandon Reed - it might have been very good. Then again, sometimes character matters, and it might not have been that great.

(03-29-2012 06:47 PM)dahbeed Wrote:  

(03-29-2012 05:13 PM)Seminole Indian Wrote:  

(03-29-2012 04:00 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  We have a lot of changes coming in Mens Basketball. Ive heard that several times recently.

My impression is that in football the only person that will be really upset if ASU takes 2-3 years to hang 10 again will be Malzahn.

In men’s basketball it is game-on, right now.

Many posters who have given Brady a hard time, especially about this past season, don’t really know how hogtied he has been up until this point at ASU. Just say he has been untied and I think the SBC is about to find out what he is capable of doing.

who hogtied him and who and how was he unhogtied???

I think he is referring to APR issues that were caused by Nutt, that Brady hasn't been able to fully overcome yet - which is Brady's fault for missing on too many recruits.
Not sure when we get that 13th scholly back.

Cat was one of the better coaches I've seen. Nutt pretty good recruiter but his court decisions were at times baffling.

Brady at times looks all world. I thought the first two games of the tournament this year were about as well coached games as I've seen, thought he was phenomenal in the MTSU game but didn't have the horses. The problem with Brady is you might get a game like UALR in the tournament last year where he gets an incredibly stupid tech after rallying.

He has been ham-strung since he arrived because Nutt's last four recruits all left school when their eligibility expired and were not academically eligible at that point. That triggered the APR penalty. Then the bizarre NCAA screw up (31 players improperly certified as eligible even though 30 actually were eligible, the calculation was done wrong. Then an academically eligible player convinces a professor to bump a test a score so he doesn't lose his string of honor roll appearances gets discovered and we lose another scholie.

(03-30-2012 09:26 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  Cat was one of the better coaches I've seen. Nutt pretty good recruiter but his court decisions were at times baffling.

Brady at times looks all world. I thought the first two games of the tournament this year were about as well coached games as I've seen, thought he was phenomenal in the MTSU game but didn't have the horses. The problem with Brady is you might get a game like UALR in the tournament last year where he gets an incredibly stupid tech after rallying.

He has been ham-strung since he arrived because Nutt's last four recruits all left school when their eligibility expired and were not academically eligible at that point. That triggered the APR penalty. Then the bizarre NCAA screw up (31 players improperly certified as eligible even though 30 actually were eligible, the calculation was done wrong. Then an academically eligible player convinces a professor to bump a test a score so he doesn't lose his string of honor roll appearances gets discovered and we lose another scholie.

I'm impressed with the fact that Brady was still able to win one west title, and had he not lost Adams, it would probably have been two in a row.