Ok here goes.

I took the week 15 cbs bcs ranking and conference championships and came up with this.

This proposed bracket is a 32 team bracket that takes into account bcs rankings and conference champions. From every conference (counting independents as a conference). The bracket is 4 sets of 8. As follows.

NORTH
MAC
BIG 10
INDY

SOUTH
SEC
SBC
C-USA

EAST
BIG 12
BIG EAST
ACC

WEST
PAC12
WAC
MWC

Requirements are “Big 4” get 4 spots as long as all 4 are in top 25 or played in the conference championship game (call it the UCLA rule). Other two conferences and indys get 2 bids each conference champ and highest bcs ranked non champ or played in champion ship game. If “ big 4” don’t have 4 in top 25, or 3 in top 25 1 in conference championship then the highest ranked team left out gets the extra spot. This years bracket would set up like this…

North
MAC- Northern illionois, Ohio
Big 10 – Wisconsin, Michigan State, Nebraska, Michigan
Indy- BYU, Notre Dame

South
SEC- LSU, Georgia, Alabama, Arkansas
SBC- Arkansas state, Louisiana
CUSA- Southern miss, Houston

East
Big12 Oklahoma state, Kansas State, Baylor, Oklahoma
Big east- Cincinati, West Virginia
ACC – Clemson, Vtech

West
Pac12- Oregon, UCLA, Stanford, * Pen State*
WAC- La Tech, Utah State
MWC- TCU, BSU


Each section breaks down like this:

North

1. #10 Wisconsin VS 8. #64 ohio
2. #13 Michigan VS 7. #34 Northern illionois
3. #17 Michigan State VS 6. #32 Birmingham Young
4. #20 Nebraska VS #30 Notre dame




SOUTH

1. #1 LSU VS 8. #63 Louisiana
2. #2 Alabama VS 7.#35 Arkansas State
3. #6 Arkansas VS 6. #19 houston
4. #16 Georgia VS 5. #21 Southern Miss


East

1. #3 OSU VS 8. #27 Cincinitati
2. #8 KSU VS 7. #23 West Virginia
3. # 15 Clemson VS # Oklahoma
4. # 11 Virginia Tech VS #12 Baylor

West

1. #5 Oregon VS 8. #72 Utah State
2. #4 Stanford VS 7. #37 LA Tech
3. #7 Boisie State VS 6. #54 UCLA
4. # 18 TCU VS 5. *** # 22 Penn State ****

Penn State* gets in because Pac12 didn’t have 4 teams in top 25 or play in championship game that were eligible for post season play. So the highest ranked team not already included gets the at large spot.

Comments??

Keep this on the expansion board. Please don't bring this crap in here...

Dude that is way to many teams, 8-12-16 would be fine. You really want teams with 4-6 losses that maybe won the Sun Belt playing in a playoff? Where is the pay off in that? Taking the top 12 BCS teams is simple enough to me...Setting it up like the NCAA Bball tournement would ruin a football playoff right away. I kind of see why they want to take it slow with opinions like this.

stAtecamera, why have you posted this on seemingly every board on here? Once on this particular board and maybe a 2nd time in the Sports Bar would have been sufficient.

In reality, here are the problems.

1. 32 teams is way too many (at least for starts). In reality we have 11 conferences. That means that 32 teams mean 21 at-large teams.

2. Playing in a conference championship game and losing doesn't mean that you will get invited to the big dance, nor should it. Arizona didn't in NCAA Mens Basketball, despite them playing Colorado in the PAC-12 College Basketball game.

Reduce it to 16 teams (11 Champions, 5 at-large), and you've got a good matchup:

ROUND 1:
1. LSU (SEC Champion) vs. 16. Louisiana Tech (WAC Champ)
8. Kansas St. (Big-12 At-Large) vs. 9. Virginia Tech (ACC At-Large)
5. Boise St. (MWC At-Large) vs. 12. Southern Miss (C-USA Champ)
4. Stanford (PAC-12 At-Large) vs. 13 West Virginia (Big East Champ)
3. Oklahoma St. (Big-12 Champ) vs. 14. Northern Illinois (MAC Champ)
6. Oregon (PAC-12 Champ) vs. 11 TCU (MWC Champ)
7. Wisconsin (Big Ten Champ) vs. 10. Clemson (ACC Champ)
2. Alabama (SEC At-Large) vs. 15. Arkansas St. (Sun Belt Champ)

No way the Big 5 go for any system that treats the winner of the BE, SBC, MAC, WAC or Alliance as equals.

They aren't stupid. They aren't going to empower the Southern Miss and Arkansas States of the world to go to recruits and say "Hey, sure, (BCS school) has more prestige but they are in a tough conference and rarely or never win it! But sign with us and you will be playing for the national title almost every year!

(03-21-2012 07:54 AM)10thMountain Wrote:  No way the Big 5 go for any system that treats the winner of the BE, SBC, MAC, WAC or Alliance as equals.

They do it for every other sport sponsored by the NCAA. Furthermore, all it guarentees you is a spot in the playoffs. As you can see by my seeding (generally using the BCS Standings to seed the teams), even if you do have the spot in there, it's not likely that you're anything more than cannon fodder for the top teams early.

Quote:They aren't stupid. They aren't going to empower the Southern Miss and Arkansas States of the world to go to recruits and say "Hey, sure, (BCS school) has more prestige but they are in a tough conference and rarely or never win it! But sign with us and you will be playing for the national title almost every year!

And see how that argument works for every other sport. Basketball, Soccer, Baseball/Softball all have every conference getting an autobid. And the actual argument is, "Hey, BCS school. Yes, you have more money in a prestigous conference, getting paid more money. However, come join us, and you can put yourself up against the number 1 or number 2 seed in the playoffs every year." How well does that argument work now with basketball?

Quote:They do it for every other sport sponsored by the NCAA.

This is the key.

The NCAA does not control the FB post season and the schools will never let them have it because if they do the NCAA will turn it into the NCAA FB tournament which does not benefit the big schools.