Top 20

2.)North Carolina
4.)Duke
9.)Syracuse
12.)Maryland
19.)Pittsburgh

The "New Big East" only has Louisville.

Link?

Click on top 20... There's a forbes link there.

Nice find OC

I need a new mouse. Mine completely missed that link!

Any evaluation that has the Minnesota Gophers as one of the Top 20 most valuable college basketball programs needs to go and re-assess how they are doing their rankings.

What a joke.

Cheers,
Neil

Yea, it was weird seeing some of those teams listed Neil

Another factor to consider is the schools reporting. Private schools have to report less and tend to show zero balances (like Syracuse). Also, each state has different reporting rules. These valuations are nice but hardly accurate.

(03-12-2012 05:26 PM)HtownOrange Wrote:  Another factor to consider is the schools reporting. Private schools have to report less and tend to show zero balances (like Syracuse). Also, each state has different reporting rules. These valuations are nice but hardly accurate.

What IS accurate is:
North Carolina generated over $5 million for its conference last year, the most of any team, thanks to 21 NCAA tournament games played since 2005.

(03-12-2012 05:38 PM)ringmaster Wrote:  

(03-12-2012 05:26 PM)HtownOrange Wrote:  Another factor to consider is the schools reporting. Private schools have to report less and tend to show zero balances (like Syracuse). Also, each state has different reporting rules. These valuations are nice but hardly accurate.

What IS accurate is:
North Carolina generated over $5 million for its conference last year, the most of any team, thanks to 21 NCAA tournament games played since 2005.

Correct. And $5MM is a great figure to be adding to the coffers.

(03-12-2012 05:38 PM)ringmaster Wrote:  

(03-12-2012 05:26 PM)HtownOrange Wrote:  Another factor to consider is the schools reporting. Private schools have to report less and tend to show zero balances (like Syracuse). Also, each state has different reporting rules. These valuations are nice but hardly accurate.

What IS accurate is:
North Carolina generated over $5 million for its conference last year, the most of any team, thanks to 21 NCAA tournament games played since 2005.

I believe Michigan State earned 21 units over that same time frame.

Those two were followed by Villanova with 17 units and Duke, Louisville, Memphis, and West Virginia who all earned 16 units from 2005-2010.

Cheers,
Neil

(03-12-2012 05:38 PM)ringmaster Wrote:  North Carolina generated over $5 million for its conference last year, the most of any team, thanks to 21 NCAA tournament games played since 2005.

This is the primary way that schools like UNC & Duke "pull their weight" in the ACC, and the football teams (I'm looking at you, Clemson) do need to recognize this.

At the same time, what UNC fans need to recognize is that the $5 million UNC brought in from the basketball tournament is trumped by Va Tech's BCS at-large bid, $6 million to $5 million [ link ]

To be fair, UNC also brings in some bowl money every year as well - even non-BCS bowls pay something!

So, what needs to happen for ACC athletics to prosper is 2-fold:
(1) the football teams need to play well enough to get regular BCS at-large bids and fill out the remaining bowls
(2) the basketball teams need to keep qualifying for and making deep runs in the NCAA tournament
Some schools will be able to do both - more power to them (FSU).

Ideally, a conference will have very good teams in both Basketball and Football. Being a powerhouse in both would be ideal. It does not have to be the same teams but as long as some of the teams are good it really helps the conference.
Look at what has happened to the PAC-12 (basketball) over the last few years. They have been terrible.
I am surprised that Syracuse is so far down the list. Usually, Syracuse is in the top 3 for attendance every year. The added value to the conference is that Syracuse will probably be the top draw for opposing teams and bring more fans into opposing arenas than any other team, thus helping the financial situation of each school.

(03-13-2012 09:06 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  

(03-12-2012 05:38 PM)ringmaster Wrote:  North Carolina generated over $5 million for its conference last year, the most of any team, thanks to 21 NCAA tournament games played since 2005.

This is the primary way that schools like UNC & Duke "pull their weight" in the ACC, and the football teams (I'm looking at you, Clemson) do need to recognize this.

At the same time, what UNC fans need to recognize is that the $5 million UNC brought in from the basketball tournament is trumped by Va Tech's BCS at-large bid, $6 million to $5 million [ link ]

But UNC's and Duke's $3 - $5 million is likely every year, whereas the extra $6 million for the extra BCS Bowl bid is good for that year only.

Quote:So, what needs to happen for ACC athletics to prosper is 2-fold:
(1) the football teams need to play well enough to get regular BCS at-large bids and fill out the remaining bowls
(2) the basketball teams need to keep qualifying for and making deep runs in the NCAA tournament
Some schools will be able to do both - more power to them (FSU).

Agreed.

Cheers,
Neil

(03-13-2012 09:57 AM)tj_2009 Wrote:  Ideally, a conference will have very good teams in both Basketball and Football. Being a powerhouse in both would be ideal. It does not have to be the same teams but as long as some of the teams are good it really helps the conference.
Look at what has happened to the PAC-12 (basketball) over the last few years. They have been terrible.

Agreed. You want at least 4 programs that consistently perform well in football and at least 4 programs that consistently perform well in basketball. Then you need another 4 programs that can step up to the plate when 1 of the top performers goes through a slump. And hope that the league doesn't have two top performers going through a slump at the same time.

This is how the SEC has been so successful in football and the new Big East so successful in basketball.

If the ACC could reach 80% the success of those two leagues in their respective sports, the sky is the limit.

Cheers,
Neil