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RE: Weber Gone
Two different web sites on coaching salary. Nobody really knows how much a coach is making. Shoe contracts, radio TV, summer camps, speeches, alumi shoe boxes, private jet all adds up.
U of I will never rank in the top 10. Their AD is drinking the kool aid.
A new coach will cost at least 1.5 M plus.

Here is, in order, the annual salary of all the Big Ten basketball coaches for next season: Izzo, Ohio State’s Thad Matta ($2.4 million), Crean, Minnesota’s Tubby Smith ($1.8 million), Michigan’s John Beilein ($1.6 million), Illinois’ Bruce Weber ($1.5 million), Wisconsin’s Bo Ryan ($1.5 million), Purdue’s Matt Painter ($1.325 million), Iowa’s Fran McCaffery ($1.1 million), Northwestern’s Bill Carmody ($1.1 million) and DeChellis.
Coach Team Average Salary (Millions) Source
Rick Pitino Louisville 7.5 USA Today

John Calipari Kentucky 4.5 Associated Press

Mike Krzyzewski Duke 4.1 USA Today

Billy Donovan Florida 3.5 Orlandosentinel.com

Bill Self Kansas 3 ESPN.com

Thad Matta Ohio State 2.5 Diverseeducation.com

Jim Calhoun Connecticut 2.3 Associated Press
Rick Barnes Texas 2.4 Yahoo! Sports

Roy Williams North Carolina 2.11 ESPN.com

Sean Miller Arizona 2.3 USA Today

Tom Izzo Michigan State 1.735 MSUSpartans.cstv.com

Ben Howland UCLA 1.5 LATimes.com

Tom Crean Indiana 1.48 Insidethehall.com

Mark Turgeon Maryland 2.5 Dallas Morning News

Jim Boeheim Syracuse 1.00 plus Syracuse.com
03-09-2012 06:10 PM
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RE: Weber Gone
The biggest drawback to hiring Stevens is that if either the Purdue or Indiana jobs were to open up, he'd probably be gone. He's a Hoosier (although not necessarily an Indiana Hoosier!) through and through. Stevens was born in Indiana, played H.S. and college ball in Indiana and coached in Indiana.
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(03-09-2012 06:17 PM)huskiebob Wrote:  The biggest drawback to hiring Stevens is that if either the Purdue or Indiana jobs were to open up, he'd probably be gone. He's a Hoosier (although not necessarily an Indiana Hoosier!) through and through. Stevens was born in Indiana, played H.S. and college ball in Indiana and coached in Indiana.

You are right. All my friends at IU had Stevens going to IU next year if Crean had a bad year. Of course Crean proved them wrong this year. Look for Crean to get a couple of more years on his 1.8M contract. Painter will also get a contract raise.
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RE: Weber Gone
wow, Izzo is pissed!

Tom Izzo speaks candidly about Bruce Weber’s firing

Nick Fasulo

Mar 9, 2012, 3:36 PM EST
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INDIANAPOLIS – Following today’s victory over Iowa, Tom Izzo took time to sound off on the firing of Bruce Weber.

“I’m sick about it,” Izzo said. “This morning my wife and I shed a tear. Half of it was for Bruce, the other half was for my profession.”
During his post-game press conference, Izzo was asked to briefly segue about his team’s performance this afternoon to give his thoughts on Weber, but said he’d like to touch on the issue in-full after answering questions about today’s game.
What came out of his mouth seemed like a monologue that was stuck in his head all morning. Something he couldn’t wait to unleash when the time was right.

"Here you have administrators who the pulling the rug under things in the middle of January when you’re 16-6 or 16-7 or whatever it was and you publicly talk about ‘we’ll make decisions at the end of the year’.

I don’t know what you guys think about kids…but they’re a little more fragile today. Not as many two parent homes. Not as good a school systems that are holding kids accountable and demanding. So now we put that on those poor kids? And then we’re surprised that they lose nine out of ten?

I think it was ridiculous the way that it was handled. If I take abuse for that I really don’t care. Because I’m also president of our [National Association of Basketball Coaches] association this isn’t about a friendship, this is about a profession.

In any organization, the only way you can be successful is if top to bottom, from the president to the trainer, are all on the same page.

I feel bad for the Illini Nation…but I feel worse for Bruce because we lost a good soldier…I hope that administration has a good game plan.

If this was HBO, we could really get at it right now."

http://collegebasketballtalk.nbcsports.c...rs-firing/
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RE: Weber Gone
(03-09-2012 10:06 AM)NIU75 Wrote:  
(03-09-2012 10:00 AM)gcd Wrote:  Illini targeting VCU coach?

The AD is calling Butler.

No. He's calling VCU. If Shaka Smart wants the job, it's his.
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First call will be VCU, second call will be Butler. The fifth call will take the job.

Yahoo says: Illinois might be pretty tempting, though, as it'll pay big money and offer the opportunity to not only coach in the Big Ten, but to take a shot at dominating the fertile recruiting ground that is Chicago. He did sign an eight-year extension at VCU after last season, but if both Smart and Illinois want it to happen, it will happen. A kicker worth keeping in mind: New Illinois AD Mike Thomas was at Akron while Smart was an assistant coach there from 2003-06.

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaab-the-...15596.html
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(03-09-2012 07:20 PM)NIU75 Wrote:  First call will be VCU, second call will be Butler. The fifth call will take the job.

Yahoo says: Illinois might be pretty tempting, though, as it'll pay big money and offer the opportunity to not only coach in the Big Ten, but to take a shot at dominating the fertile recruiting ground that is Chicago. He did sign an eight-year extension at VCU after last season, but if both Smart and Illinois want it to happen, it will happen. A kicker worth keeping in mind: New Illinois AD Mike Thomas was at Akron while Smart was an assistant coach there from 2003-06.

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaab-the-...15596.html

Maybe it gets that far, maybe it doesn't. I also don't think Stevens is near the top of their wish list right now from what I've heard. That's probably mutual, FWIW. He's an Indiana guy and will probably wait for IU to open up, Duke to open up (that's the job he wants with Crean entrenched at IU), or stay at Butler.
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The fifth call will take the job? This is Illinois basketball, not Illinois football. Big difference.
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RE: Weber Gone
(03-09-2012 05:21 PM)NIU75 Wrote:  
(03-09-2012 12:45 PM)chihuskie Wrote:  
(03-09-2012 10:06 AM)NIU75 Wrote:  
(03-09-2012 10:00 AM)gcd Wrote:  Illini targeting VCU coach?

The AD is calling Butler.

Butler who?

In just four seasons as a collegiate head coach and 11 years after leaving a business position as a marketing associate, Brad Stevens sits on top of the list for best basketball coaching starts in NCAA History.

Stevens, who owns two Horizon League Coach of the Year awards, has guided the Bulldogs to 117 wins in his brief career, breaking the previous four-year NCAA Division I record of 107 wins set by Everett Case of North Carolina State from 1947 to 1950. He also holds the NCAA three-year record with 89 victories, and he’s second on the two-year list with 56 wins. This past season, he guided Butler to a 28-10 campaign, the school’s league-record fifth consecutive Horizon League regular season championship, a second straight Horizon League Tournament title, a fifth consecutive trip to the NCAA Tournament and a second straight national runner-up finish. The Bulldogs, who won the Diamond Head Classic in Hawaii along the way, finished the year with a No. 2 national rank in the final ESPN/USA Today poll.

Just one year earlier, Stevens engineered the most remarkable season in Butler basketball history! The Bulldogs posted a 33-5 overall record, the Horizon League’s first 18-0 conference mark and fourth overall unbeaten record, a fourth consecutive league regular season championship, a second Horizon League Tournament crown in three years and a national runner-up finish in the NCAA Tournament. The Bulldogs were nationally-ranked for the fourth straight year, and Butler compiled a school-record, 25-game winning streak, the longest winning streak in the nation! The Butler coach was named NABC All-District 12 Coach, and he was a finalist for several additional national coaching awards. Butler ended the season as the No. 2-ranked team in the final ESPN/USA Today national poll.

In his debut season in 2007-08, Stevens helped Butler become the first team in school and Horizon League history to record 30 wins!. The 30-4 Bulldogs captured the Great Alaska Shootout, won a second consecutive Wooden Tradition trophy, and wrapped up Horizon League regular season and tournament championships. Butler won a first-round NCAA Tournament game, before falling in overtime to #5 Tennessee in the second round. The Bulldogs were ranked in the “Top 25” of the A. P. and ESPN/USA Today national polls for 19 consecutive weeks, including a record three weeks in the “Top 10.” Butler set school- and league-records for regular season wins (27) and became just the second team in league history to record 16 league victories.

Only three coaches in NCAA Division I history - Bill Guthridge, North Carolina (34), Bill Hodges, Indiana State (33) and Jamie Dixon, Pittsburgh (31) - posted more first-year wins than the Butler coach. And at 31, Stevens became the third-youngest Division I coach to guide his team to 30 wins - the youngest in more than half a century!

See Todd Lickliter...I don't think Stevens is the answer for U of I....positive of this is maybe NIU gets lucky with a transfer?
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(03-09-2012 07:40 PM)HuskiePride12 Wrote:  See Todd Lickliter...I don't think Stevens is the answer for U of I....positive of this is maybe NIU gets lucky with a transfer?

Stevens has a personality. Lickliter doesn't, and it killed him at Iowa. It seems like a small thing but it makes a huge difference. Thad Matta went from Butler to Xavier and has worked out just fine for Ohio State.

Regarding transfers, Crandall Head is looking for a school, although he bizarrely tweeted today that he might consider going back to Illinois with Weber gone. He must have really hated him, lol.
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Lickliter never took teams to back to back final fours. Not comparable.

After watching Bruce's presser today, I think he will go back to Southern.
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I thought Crandall Head was going the JUCO route?
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(03-09-2012 07:49 PM)HuskiePride12 Wrote:  I thought Crandall Head was going the JUCO route?

He is, but IIRC he only needs like a semester or something to get back on track and that's this year's Spring semester. I could be wrong on that, I only half followed the details when he left.
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(03-09-2012 06:35 PM)NIU32 Wrote:  wow, Izzo is pissed!

Tom Izzo speaks candidly about Bruce Weber’s firing

Nick Fasulo

Mar 9, 2012, 3:36 PM EST
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Big Ten Basketball Tournament - Iowa v Michigan St. Getty Images

INDIANAPOLIS – Following today’s victory over Iowa, Tom Izzo took time to sound off on the firing of Bruce Weber.

“I’m sick about it,” Izzo said. “This morning my wife and I shed a tear. Half of it was for Bruce, the other half was for my profession.”
During his post-game press conference, Izzo was asked to briefly segue about his team’s performance this afternoon to give his thoughts on Weber, but said he’d like to touch on the issue in-full after answering questions about today’s game.
What came out of his mouth seemed like a monologue that was stuck in his head all morning. Something he couldn’t wait to unleash when the time was right.

"Here you have administrators who the pulling the rug under things in the middle of January when you’re 16-6 or 16-7 or whatever it was and you publicly talk about ‘we’ll make decisions at the end of the year’.

I don’t know what you guys think about kids…but they’re a little more fragile today. Not as many two parent homes. Not as good a school systems that are holding kids accountable and demanding. So now we put that on those poor kids? And then we’re surprised that they lose nine out of ten?

I think it was ridiculous the way that it was handled. If I take abuse for that I really don’t care. Because I’m also president of our [National Association of Basketball Coaches] association this isn’t about a friendship, this is about a profession.

In any organization, the only way you can be successful is if top to bottom, from the president to the trainer, are all on the same page.

I feel bad for the Illini Nation…but I feel worse for Bruce because we lost a good soldier…I hope that administration has a good game plan.

If this was HBO, we could really get at it right now."

http://collegebasketballtalk.nbcsports.c...rs-firing/

Wow. Lost a lot of respect for Izzo today. What a clueless jackhole. What was he thinking?
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RE: Weber Gone
At the moment, MSU has the luxury of a President, AD, and coaches on the same page, and the winning percentages reflect this. This seems to be integral in the success of a Program. The Illinois AD/Pres have now fired 3 coaches (good ones IMO - though better may be found). Izzo is one of the nation's better coaches, and also President of the coaches association, so speaking on this is not out of line. As convoluted as his statements might seem (the man says what's on his mind - whenever, wherever), lack of support from administration does influence the success of a program. Running a clean and quality program can't be an easy task - and I respect Weber for that despite the W/L column. Should your AD/Pres suggest that Monty be fired if his team does not produce next season? Ditch the name calling - I got Tom's (and Monty's) back. :)
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I kinda feel relief for ol' Mr. Weber. He never seemed comfortable in the Illinois job (maybe I'm just thinking of that orange jacket that you'll soon be able to buy at a Champaign Salvation Army) and seemed to do his best to talk himself out of having the job this year.

Illinois is a really good job...is it a top 5 job? No, but few are. If Illinois is willing to spend the money, someone good will go there.
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Thomas wants a coach that will recruit Chicago, and the trustees are pushing for an African-American coach. Those requirements would eliminate Stevens from Butler. If Illinois can't get Shaka Smart, not sure who the possible candidates would be they would consider.
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(03-10-2012 08:24 PM)niu79 Wrote:  Thomas wants a coach that will recruit Chicago, and the trustees are pushing for an African-American coach. Those requirements would eliminate Stevens from Butler. If Illinois can't get Shaka Smart, not sure who the possible candidates would be they would consider.

FWIW, and this is all 3rd/4th hand info, after Smart the two guys being talked about and are under serious consideration are Anthony Grant at Alabama and Reggie Theus. Theus was an assistant at Louisville under Pitino and took over at New Mexico State when Lou Henson retired. Henson is, supposedly, pushing him for the job and Theus wants it. He jumped to the NBA after taking NMSU to the NCAA Tournament in his 2nd year. Although he failed with the Kings, that's a bad organization anyway. I'd be more concerned about his lack of experience as a head guy in the college ranks. Both Grant and Theus are considered to be top-tier recruiters, so i think there's a belief they could get kids out of Chicago.

I think those are the top three guys from what I have heard and been able to figure out. That said, everything I am hearing is Shaka is their top choice. No idea if he wants the job or not, but it's his if he does.

Again, keep in mind, it's a coaching search and things change daily and there are only about 2-3 people who actually know what's going on. There could be some super secret stealth candidate that nobody is even talking about. But I think the above is probably pretty accurate.
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I've heard Illinois really wants to hire a black coach too, so Theus sounds like a favorite.
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Theus is a product of the cesspool of filth that is Rick Pitino, so Illinois might not want to go that route.
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