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2012 crossover opponents unknown now.
With Temple leaving and the Commissioner's comments about the schedule, I think they have scrapped the whole thing and are starting over.

Looking at the playing history it is more likely now that we will host Ohio instead of BGSU. We last hosted Ohio in 2006 and BGSU/Miami in 2008. BGSU will have their permanent crossover game with Toledo making our match up even more difficult. The only nugget that may not have NIU host Ohio is that only once in the history of the MAC have the previous 2 division champs met the very next year in the regular season.

The only other option is for us to host Miami which we still have some payback to give them for that last time.

It still makes sense for us to travel to Kent St. Last game to their place was 2008.

Hosting UMASS depends on if they will still play Temple this year like the original story broke. We could realistically host Ohio & Miami then visit Kent St.


My guess is that we will now play @ Kent St, vs Miami, vs UMASS
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(03-08-2012 12:06 PM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  With Temple leaving and the Commissioner's comments about the schedule, I think they have scrapped the whole thing and are starting over.

Looking at the playing history it is more likely now that we will host Ohio instead of BGSU. We last hosted Ohio in 2006 and BGSU/Miami in 2008. BGSU will have their permanent crossover game with Toledo making our match up even more difficult. The only nugget that may not have NIU host Ohio is that only once in the history of the MAC have the previous 2 division champs met the very next year in the regular season.

The only other option is for us to host Miami which we still have some payback to give them for that last time.

It still makes sense for us to travel to Kent St. Last game to their place was 2008.

Hosting UMASS depends on if they will still play Temple this year like the original story broke. We could realistically host Ohio & Miami then visit Kent St.


My guess is that we will now play @ Kent St, vs Miami, vs UMASS

Why not Ohio? As you said, we haven't played them here since 2006.
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(03-08-2012 01:05 PM)huskiebob Wrote:  
(03-08-2012 12:06 PM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  With Temple leaving and the Commissioner's comments about the schedule, I think they have scrapped the whole thing and are starting over.

Looking at the playing history it is more likely now that we will host Ohio instead of BGSU. We last hosted Ohio in 2006 and BGSU/Miami in 2008. BGSU will have their permanent crossover game with Toledo making our match up even more difficult. The only nugget that may not have NIU host Ohio is that only once in the history of the MAC have the previous 2 division champs met the very next year in the regular season.

The only other option is for us to host Miami which we still have some payback to give them for that last time.

It still makes sense for us to travel to Kent St. Last game to their place was 2008.

Hosting UMASS depends on if they will still play Temple this year like the original story broke. We could realistically host Ohio & Miami then visit Kent St.


My guess is that we will now play @ Kent St, vs Miami, vs UMASS

Why not Ohio? As you said, we haven't played them here since 2006.
Because...only once in the history of the MAC have the previous 2 division champs met the very next year in the regular season.

If not this year we will host Ohio next year.
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(03-08-2012 01:15 PM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  
(03-08-2012 01:05 PM)huskiebob Wrote:  
(03-08-2012 12:06 PM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  With Temple leaving and the Commissioner's comments about the schedule, I think they have scrapped the whole thing and are starting over.

Looking at the playing history it is more likely now that we will host Ohio instead of BGSU. We last hosted Ohio in 2006 and BGSU/Miami in 2008. BGSU will have their permanent crossover game with Toledo making our match up even more difficult. The only nugget that may not have NIU host Ohio is that only once in the history of the MAC have the previous 2 division champs met the very next year in the regular season.

The only other option is for us to host Miami which we still have some payback to give them for that last time.

It still makes sense for us to travel to Kent St. Last game to their place was 2008.

Hosting UMASS depends on if they will still play Temple this year like the original story broke. We could realistically host Ohio & Miami then visit Kent St.


My guess is that we will now play @ Kent St, vs Miami, vs UMASS

Why not Ohio? As you said, we haven't played them here since 2006.
Because...only once in the history of the MAC have the previous 2 division champs met the very next year in the regular season.

If not this year we will host Ohio next year.

I don't think that matters because ESPN would love an NIU-Ohio rematch. We'll see though.
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(03-08-2012 01:30 PM)huskiebob Wrote:  
(03-08-2012 01:15 PM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  
(03-08-2012 01:05 PM)huskiebob Wrote:  
(03-08-2012 12:06 PM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  With Temple leaving and the Commissioner's comments about the schedule, I think they have scrapped the whole thing and are starting over.

Looking at the playing history it is more likely now that we will host Ohio instead of BGSU. We last hosted Ohio in 2006 and BGSU/Miami in 2008. BGSU will have their permanent crossover game with Toledo making our match up even more difficult. The only nugget that may not have NIU host Ohio is that only once in the history of the MAC have the previous 2 division champs met the very next year in the regular season.

The only other option is for us to host Miami which we still have some payback to give them for that last time.

It still makes sense for us to travel to Kent St. Last game to their place was 2008.

Hosting UMASS depends on if they will still play Temple this year like the original story broke. We could realistically host Ohio & Miami then visit Kent St.


My guess is that we will now play @ Kent St, vs Miami, vs UMASS

Why not Ohio? As you said, we haven't played them here since 2006.
Because...only once in the history of the MAC have the previous 2 division champs met the very next year in the regular season.

If not this year we will host Ohio next year.

I don't think that matters because ESPN would love an NIU-Ohio rematch. We'll see though.
I think they could play up a NIU/Miami rematch.

NIU/Ohio would be a blowout in ESPN's mind since we wont have Harnish or Napalm to save the team.
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(03-08-2012 01:39 PM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  
(03-08-2012 01:30 PM)huskiebob Wrote:  
(03-08-2012 01:15 PM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  
(03-08-2012 01:05 PM)huskiebob Wrote:  
(03-08-2012 12:06 PM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  With Temple leaving and the Commissioner's comments about the schedule, I think they have scrapped the whole thing and are starting over.

Looking at the playing history it is more likely now that we will host Ohio instead of BGSU. We last hosted Ohio in 2006 and BGSU/Miami in 2008. BGSU will have their permanent crossover game with Toledo making our match up even more difficult. The only nugget that may not have NIU host Ohio is that only once in the history of the MAC have the previous 2 division champs met the very next year in the regular season.

The only other option is for us to host Miami which we still have some payback to give them for that last time.

It still makes sense for us to travel to Kent St. Last game to their place was 2008.

Hosting UMASS depends on if they will still play Temple this year like the original story broke. We could realistically host Ohio & Miami then visit Kent St.


My guess is that we will now play @ Kent St, vs Miami, vs UMASS

Why not Ohio? As you said, we haven't played them here since 2006.
Because...only once in the history of the MAC have the previous 2 division champs met the very next year in the regular season.

If not this year we will host Ohio next year.

I don't think that matters because ESPN would love an NIU-Ohio rematch. We'll see though.
I think they could play up a NIU/Miami rematch.

NIU/Ohio would be a blowout in ESPN's mind since we wont have Harnish or Napalm to save the team.

Not sure about that. Miami was bad (4-8) last year.

NIU/Ohio a blowout? I don't think so, even in ESPN's mind. Ohio is also losing some impact players, namely Brazile and Keller.
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RE: 2012 crossover opponents unknown now.
(03-08-2012 01:51 PM)huskiebob Wrote:  
(03-08-2012 01:39 PM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  
(03-08-2012 01:30 PM)huskiebob Wrote:  
(03-08-2012 01:15 PM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  
(03-08-2012 01:05 PM)huskiebob Wrote:  Why not Ohio? As you said, we haven't played them here since 2006.
Because...only once in the history of the MAC have the previous 2 division champs met the very next year in the regular season.

If not this year we will host Ohio next year.

I don't think that matters because ESPN would love an NIU-Ohio rematch. We'll see though.
I think they could play up a NIU/Miami rematch.

NIU/Ohio would be a blowout in ESPN's mind since we wont have Harnish or Napalm to save the team.

Not sure about that. Miami was bad (4-8) last year.

NIU/Ohio a blowout? I don't think so, even in ESPN's mind. Ohio is also losing some impact players, namely Brazile and Keller.

Yeah I agree, I dont see Ohio any better than NIU next season. NIU could really be a sleeper giant this year, and not just in the MAC.
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(03-08-2012 01:51 PM)huskiebob Wrote:  
(03-08-2012 01:39 PM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  
(03-08-2012 01:30 PM)huskiebob Wrote:  
(03-08-2012 01:15 PM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  
(03-08-2012 01:05 PM)huskiebob Wrote:  Why not Ohio? As you said, we haven't played them here since 2006.
Because...only once in the history of the MAC have the previous 2 division champs met the very next year in the regular season.

If not this year we will host Ohio next year.

I don't think that matters because ESPN would love an NIU-Ohio rematch. We'll see though.
I think they could play up a NIU/Miami rematch.

NIU/Ohio would be a blowout in ESPN's mind since we wont have Harnish or Napalm to save the team.

Not sure about that. Miami was bad (4-8) last year.

NIU/Ohio a blowout? I don't think so, even in ESPN's mind. Ohio is also losing some impact players, namely Brazile and Keller.
My crazy conspiracy theory is that ESPN actually wants NIU to be good...if true it will be more evident now that Temple has left the conference. We are in the MACs biggest market so it does them better if we are winning attracting more ratinge. ESPN knows that we have a better chance at winning our conference games if we have a slightly easier crossover opponent match up.

IF we play Miami this year listen to the tone of the broadcasters from the beginning will be more pro NIU than Miami. Its good business for ESPN to get more people interested in NIU now that most of the top "mid majors" are moving up.

College football has grown more popular in the past 10 years BECAUSE of the little guy crashing the party, not because the bigger teams look more sexy.
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(03-08-2012 01:57 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  
(03-08-2012 01:51 PM)huskiebob Wrote:  
(03-08-2012 01:39 PM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  
(03-08-2012 01:30 PM)huskiebob Wrote:  
(03-08-2012 01:15 PM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  Because...only once in the history of the MAC have the previous 2 division champs met the very next year in the regular season.

If not this year we will host Ohio next year.

I don't think that matters because ESPN would love an NIU-Ohio rematch. We'll see though.
I think they could play up a NIU/Miami rematch.

NIU/Ohio would be a blowout in ESPN's mind since we wont have Harnish or Napalm to save the team.

Not sure about that. Miami was bad (4-8) last year.

NIU/Ohio a blowout? I don't think so, even in ESPN's mind. Ohio is also losing some impact players, namely Brazile and Keller.

Yeah I agree, I dont see Ohio any better than NIU next season. NIU could really be a sleeper giant this year, and not just in the MAC.
True...It just depends on how quick our O-line jells.
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(03-08-2012 02:04 PM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  
(03-08-2012 01:51 PM)huskiebob Wrote:  
(03-08-2012 01:39 PM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  
(03-08-2012 01:30 PM)huskiebob Wrote:  
(03-08-2012 01:15 PM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  Because...only once in the history of the MAC have the previous 2 division champs met the very next year in the regular season.

If not this year we will host Ohio next year.

I don't think that matters because ESPN would love an NIU-Ohio rematch. We'll see though.
I think they could play up a NIU/Miami rematch.

NIU/Ohio would be a blowout in ESPN's mind since we wont have Harnish or Napalm to save the team.

Not sure about that. Miami was bad (4-8) last year.

NIU/Ohio a blowout? I don't think so, even in ESPN's mind. Ohio is also losing some impact players, namely Brazile and Keller.
My crazy conspiracy theory is that ESPN actually wants NIU to be good...if true it will be more evident now that Temple has left the conference. We are in the MACs biggest market so it does them better if we are winning attracting more ratinge. ESPN knows that we have a better chance at winning our conference games if we have a slightly easier crossover opponent match up.

IF we play Miami this year listen to the tone of the broadcasters from the beginning will be more pro NIU than Miami. Its good business for ESPN to get more people interested in NIU now that most of the top "mid majors" are moving up.

College football has grown more popular in the past 10 years BECAUSE of the little guy crashing the party, not because the bigger teams look more sexy.

That is a crazy theory. ESPN does not give a rat's arse about NIU.
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(03-08-2012 02:19 PM)Dog Fan Wrote:  That is a crazy theory. ESPN does not give a rat's arse about NIU.

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(03-08-2012 02:19 PM)Dog Fan Wrote:  
(03-08-2012 02:04 PM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  
(03-08-2012 01:51 PM)huskiebob Wrote:  
(03-08-2012 01:39 PM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  
(03-08-2012 01:30 PM)huskiebob Wrote:  I don't think that matters because ESPN would love an NIU-Ohio rematch. We'll see though.
I think they could play up a NIU/Miami rematch.

NIU/Ohio would be a blowout in ESPN's mind since we wont have Harnish or Napalm to save the team.

Not sure about that. Miami was bad (4-8) last year.

NIU/Ohio a blowout? I don't think so, even in ESPN's mind. Ohio is also losing some impact players, namely Brazile and Keller.
My crazy conspiracy theory is that ESPN actually wants NIU to be good...if true it will be more evident now that Temple has left the conference. We are in the MACs biggest market so it does them better if we are winning attracting more ratinge. ESPN knows that we have a better chance at winning our conference games if we have a slightly easier crossover opponent match up.

IF we play Miami this year listen to the tone of the broadcasters from the beginning will be more pro NIU than Miami. Its good business for ESPN to get more people interested in NIU now that most of the top "mid majors" are moving up.

College football has grown more popular in the past 10 years BECAUSE of the little guy crashing the party, not because the bigger teams look more sexy.

That is a crazy theory. ESPN does not give a rat's arse about NIU.
I didn't say it made sense!

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(03-08-2012 02:26 PM)DiehardHuskie Wrote:  
(03-08-2012 02:19 PM)Dog Fan Wrote:  That is a crazy theory. ESPN does not give a rat's arse about NIU.

+1

I have a conspiracy theory about the ESPN/MAC deal but I know people will think its so far fetched that I know I'd get run out of town for it hahah
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(03-09-2012 12:40 AM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  
(03-08-2012 02:26 PM)DiehardHuskie Wrote:  
(03-08-2012 02:19 PM)Dog Fan Wrote:  That is a crazy theory. ESPN does not give a rat's arse about NIU.

+1

I have a conspiracy theory about the ESPN/MAC deal but I know people will think its so far fetched that I know I'd get run out of town for it hahah

19 Days till spring practice starts...to pass the time everyone is allowed a crazy talk pass until the roster is updated.
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(03-08-2012 02:26 PM)DiehardHuskie Wrote:  
(03-08-2012 02:19 PM)Dog Fan Wrote:  That is a crazy theory. ESPN does not give a rat's arse about NIU.

+1

They'd give us that rat's arse if we packed 32,000 into Huskie Stadium for a Thursday night game.
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(03-09-2012 09:19 AM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  
(03-09-2012 12:40 AM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  
(03-08-2012 02:26 PM)DiehardHuskie Wrote:  
(03-08-2012 02:19 PM)Dog Fan Wrote:  That is a crazy theory. ESPN does not give a rat's arse about NIU.

+1

I have a conspiracy theory about the ESPN/MAC deal but I know people will think its so far fetched that I know I'd get run out of town for it hahah

19 Days till spring practice starts...to pass the time everyone is allowed a crazy talk pass until the roster is updated.

I think the ESPN has conspired even as far as a few years back to trim down FBS to the big boys, so that they could feature a shrunken FBS playoff system. What better way to eliminate smaller programs by signing a deal with one of the target conferences to be eliminated to play exclusively on weekdays. This would shrink attendance below FBS standards by playing on weekdays, and expediate the death of these programs and get the "new FBS" vision in place sooner. I know it might be a little far fetched, but it something that pops in my mind a lot.
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(03-09-2012 10:38 AM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  
(03-09-2012 09:19 AM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  
(03-09-2012 12:40 AM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  
(03-08-2012 02:26 PM)DiehardHuskie Wrote:  
(03-08-2012 02:19 PM)Dog Fan Wrote:  That is a crazy theory. ESPN does not give a rat's arse about NIU.

+1

I have a conspiracy theory about the ESPN/MAC deal but I know people will think its so far fetched that I know I'd get run out of town for it hahah

19 Days till spring practice starts...to pass the time everyone is allowed a crazy talk pass until the roster is updated.

I think the ESPN has conspired even as far as a few years back to trim down FBS to the big boys, so that they could feature a shrunken FBS playoff system. What better way to eliminate smaller programs by signing a deal with one of the target conferences to be eliminated to play exclusively on weekdays. This would shrink attendance below FBS standards by playing on weekdays, and expediate the death of these programs and get the "new FBS" vision in place sooner. I know it might be a little far fetched, but it something that pops in my mind a lot.

EMU and Kent St did not make the 15k this year. Everyone else in the MAC did. The only other FBS team not to reach 15k was Idaho.

All the NCAA has to do is raise the minimum attendance average to 24k and enforce the rule.
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I think I would be luckier predicting the winning lottery numbers than guessing WTF will happen with MAC schedule given the defection of Temple and addition of UMass.

All bets are off and the conf movers and shakers likely have quite a headache to treat.
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(03-09-2012 01:17 PM)niucyberdawg Wrote:  I think I would be luckier predicting the winning lottery numbers than guessing WTF will happen with MAC schedule given the defection of Temple and addition of UMass.

All bets are off and the conf movers and shakers likely have quite a headache to treat.

I don't understand what the big deal is with making a schedule. There are computer programs on the internet that you can use for free and better ones for $50.

Just plug in the teams, days that games can be played, number of bye weeks and OOC schedule. Ctl P...done
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so, you think they are in the dark about such tools and have no other variables to consider ?

How about OOC schedules in place , TV schedules and matchups broadcasting the "better" games { often an unknown in Spring } , rivalry games to be played, balancing home/away schedules to avoid many road or home games in succession, when the bye week occurs , who wants one after two or three games?, the wants and needs of ADS and HCs?
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