(03-05-2012 09:56 AM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  

(03-04-2012 10:52 AM)huskiebob Wrote:  The more I look at the new tournament format, the less I like it. To win the tournament, the bottom eight seeds have to win FIVE games and the top two seeds have to win only two. That's just too big of a difference in games played. I like the idea of rewarding the top teams, but in a twelve team conference, you should have to win at least three games to be the champ.

There is no reason the bottom 2-4 teams should make this tournament. Do the "better" conferences have all their teams qualify for theirs?

To me it should be just the top 8. Unless it's a matter of money or TV coverage - and I don't think we want to showcase the bottom couple teams on TV anyway.

(03-04-2012 10:52 AM)huskiebob Wrote:  The more I look at the new tournament format, the less I like it. To win the tournament, the bottom eight seeds have to win FIVE games and the top two seeds have to win only two. That's just too big of a difference in games played. I like the idea of rewarding the top teams, but in a twelve team conference, you should have to win at least three games to be the champ.

Yeah it's a total asinine way to do brackets. You are basically restricting it to bottom quarter of the teams initially which is very convoluted. Why not just give byes to the top 4 teams, play 5-12 initially, down to 4 teams (who play 4 top seeds), then 2 games, and finally a champion. Byes get 3 games, lower seeds get 4 simple way to do it.

(03-05-2012 10:27 AM)The Frisky Biscuit Wrote:  I'm not sure why the MAC would want to take the chance, being a one-bid league, that any team other than one of it's best would end up in the tourney. Maybe tourney games are worth more money than I thought.

If you read HuskieBob's post, you will see that the odds are so slim given that those teams have to win 5 games rather than 2. It helps assure the best teams have the best shot at getting the best possible seed in the tournament.

(03-05-2012 12:14 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  

(03-05-2012 09:56 AM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  

(03-04-2012 10:52 AM)huskiebob Wrote:  The more I look at the new tournament format, the less I like it. To win the tournament, the bottom eight seeds have to win FIVE games and the top two seeds have to win only two. That's just too big of a difference in games played. I like the idea of rewarding the top teams, but in a twelve team conference, you should have to win at least three games to be the champ.

There is no reason the bottom 2-4 teams should make this tournament. Do the "better" conferences have all their teams qualify for theirs?

To me it should be just the top 8. Unless it's a matter of money or TV coverage - and I don't think we want to showcase the bottom couple teams on TV anyway.

For the MAC how bad would it look if the #12 seed were to defeat the #5 and then the winner of the #8/#9 game.

If all the other conferences do it then I guess its fine.

(03-05-2012 12:19 PM)golf4501 Wrote:  

(03-04-2012 10:52 AM)huskiebob Wrote:  The more I look at the new tournament format, the less I like it. To win the tournament, the bottom eight seeds have to win FIVE games and the top two seeds have to win only two. That's just too big of a difference in games played. I like the idea of rewarding the top teams, but in a twelve team conference, you should have to win at least three games to be the champ.

Yeah it's a total asinine way to do brackets. You are basically restricting it to bottom quarter of the teams initially which is very convoluted. Why not just give byes to the top 4 teams, play 5-12 initially, down to 4 teams (who play 4 top seeds), then 2 games, and finally a champion. Byes get 3 games, lower seeds get 4 simple way to do it.

If I read your post correctly, that's what I was saying in my post.

And, in response to NIU007, "YES", that is how most all other conferences do it. All the teams in the Big East, Big 10, Big 12, etc. are seeded and they play it off in a bracketed tournament. Championship week is one of the greatest weeks in college basketball as stories play out leading into the NCAA tournament. Teams on the bubble hope for no upsets in mid-major tournaments where some conferences might then get 2 teams in instead of one (MVC for example where Creighton beat Illinois State in OT. Had ISU won, they and Creighton go to the NCAA tourney and take an at-large bid away from a bubble team. Now just Creighton goes.)

What if a team like Akron would be ranked in the top 50 with a good RPI, but loses in the championship. Would they still get to go to the tourney? It would depend on how other conference tourneys played out, but very possibly not. Therefore, the MAC would not send it's strongest team to the NCAA's. It's a risk, but it's college basketball and I love it that way. Realistically, no matter who the MAC sends they will have to play someone that will be an upset to defeat - like Ohio beating Georgetown a couple years ago. So it probably doesn't matter who goes this year anyway.

It should not matter to the conference who wins the Mac tourney. Whoever comes out of the Mac tourney will be a underdog. What does matter is that all day the Niu logo is being shown on Espn. I do not believe its in the Mac's best interest to exclude teams from its tournament. In the Ncaa tourney, 12 seeds beat 5 seeds every year and that is part of the fun of the tourney!

(03-05-2012 01:56 PM)High On NIU Hoops Wrote:  

(03-05-2012 12:19 PM)golf4501 Wrote:  

(03-04-2012 10:52 AM)huskiebob Wrote:  The more I look at the new tournament format, the less I like it. To win the tournament, the bottom eight seeds have to win FIVE games and the top two seeds have to win only two. That's just too big of a difference in games played. I like the idea of rewarding the top teams, but in a twelve team conference, you should have to win at least three games to be the champ.

Yeah it's a total asinine way to do brackets. You are basically restricting it to bottom quarter of the teams initially which is very convoluted. Why not just give byes to the top 4 teams, play 5-12 initially, down to 4 teams (who play 4 top seeds), then 2 games, and finally a champion. Byes get 3 games, lower seeds get 4 simple way to do it.

If I read your post correctly, that's what I was saying in my post.

And, in response to NIU007, "YES", that is how most all other conferences do it. All the teams in the Big East, Big 10, Big 12, etc. are seeded and they play it off in a bracketed tournament. Championship week is one of the greatest weeks in college basketball as stories play out leading into the NCAA tournament. Teams on the bubble hope for no upsets in mid-major tournaments where some conferences might then get 2 teams in instead of one (MVC for example where Creighton beat Illinois State in OT. Had ISU won, they and Creighton go to the NCAA tourney and take an at-large bid away from a bubble team. Now just Creighton goes.)

What if a team like Akron would be ranked in the top 50 with a good RPI, but loses in the championship. Would they still get to go to the tourney? It would depend on how other conference tourneys played out, but very possibly not. Therefore, the MAC would not send it's strongest team to the NCAA's. It's a risk, but it's college basketball and I love it that way. Realistically, no matter who the MAC sends they will have to play someone that will be an upset to defeat - like Ohio beating Georgetown a couple years ago. So it probably doesn't matter who goes this year anyway.

What "Golf" is saying is what the MAC tournament format used to be. That, to me, is the best possible format with the lower seeds having to win four games and the top four seeds having to win three.

It could be improved, as "High" said, by re-seeding after the first round.

Tantalizing as it may be for me to make a prediction, I have lacked the 'nads all season long and avoided any temptations and will do so again.

It's not out of the realm of a possible NIU win but expecting some magical performance and out of character for these Huskies, I hope they play hard & to their potential and SIMPLY WISH THEM GOOD LUCK.

What these dawgs lack in talent, experience and are also lacking in key positions on the floor, they seem to have heart and grit & have earned my respect.
Go Huskies !!!

(03-03-2012 09:21 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  NIU pulls off the upset:

NIU 61
EMU 56

What stud predicted this!? hahaha