http://cincinnati.com/blogs/bengals/2012...rst-round/

looks like CB and a pass rusher in round 1

If DeCastro is there and they pass, I'm going to be annoyed. They need to rebuild their OL, arguably their weakest position on the field. The only reason he's not a consensus top-of-the-draft player is because he's a G, not a OT. It's a no-brainer for me, if he's there, you take him.

what Marvin is saying is 3 straight years the Offense got first dibs, now its time to fix the D, there's some guys later for the offense to pick from

(04-25-2012 06:53 AM)Coopdaddy67 Wrote:  If DeCastro is there and they pass, I'm going to be annoyed. They need to rebuild their OL, arguably their weakest position on the field. The only reason he's not a consensus top-of-the-draft player is because he's a G, not a OT. It's a no-brainer for me, if he's there, you take him.

I agree.

(04-25-2012 11:24 AM)icehole3 Wrote:  what Marvin is saying is 3 straight years the Offense got first dibs, now its time to fix the D, there's some guys later for the offense to pick from

Since when did it become a competition between our offense and our defense over fairness in drafting? I thought we were trying to become the best team. If the situation dictates drafting 5 straight offensive players, then you do it. Last year's draft is done. This year's is all that matters now.

I would hope that is just some sort of smokescreen. At that point in the draft there are always guys that are too good to pass up and especially if they fill a need, you need to take them. You go in with a plan, but you need to be prepared to change plans if the players available dictate it.

To put it in fantasy football terms, it is like you plan on going into the draft to go RB, RB and some guys never adjust from that and do not realize that for some reason Calvin Johnson is available in the 2nd round and their tunnel vision make them miss it. You have to look at multiple positions and players with every pick to see where the best value and need combination is.

(04-25-2012 12:46 PM)Bearhawkeye Wrote:  

(04-25-2012 06:53 AM)Coopdaddy67 Wrote:  If DeCastro is there and they pass, I'm going to be annoyed. They need to rebuild their OL, arguably their weakest position on the field. The only reason he's not a consensus top-of-the-draft player is because he's a G, not a OT. It's a no-brainer for me, if he's there, you take him.

I agree.

(04-25-2012 11:24 AM)icehole3 Wrote:  what Marvin is saying is 3 straight years the Offense got first dibs, now its time to fix the D, there's some guys later for the offense to pick from

Since when did it become a competition between our offense and our defense over fairness in drafting? I thought we were trying to become the best team. If the situation dictates drafting 5 straight offensive players, then you do it. Last year's draft is done. This year's is all that matters now.

so youre saying a defensive coach who could care less what the fans or media thinks should neglect the defense early in the draft after 3 years of drafting offense number 1, we are talking about Marvin Lewis

(04-26-2012 11:24 AM)icehole3 Wrote:  

(04-25-2012 12:46 PM)Bearhawkeye Wrote:  

(04-25-2012 06:53 AM)Coopdaddy67 Wrote:  If DeCastro is there and they pass, I'm going to be annoyed. They need to rebuild their OL, arguably their weakest position on the field. The only reason he's not a consensus top-of-the-draft player is because he's a G, not a OT. It's a no-brainer for me, if he's there, you take him.

I agree.

(04-25-2012 11:24 AM)icehole3 Wrote:  what Marvin is saying is 3 straight years the Offense got first dibs, now its time to fix the D, there's some guys later for the offense to pick from

Since when did it become a competition between our offense and our defense over fairness in drafting? I thought we were trying to become the best team. If the situation dictates drafting 5 straight offensive players, then you do it. Last year's draft is done. This year's is all that matters now.

so youre saying a defensive coach who could care less what the fans or media thinks should neglect the defense early in the draft after 3 years of drafting offense number 1, we are talking about Marvin Lewis

Yes. I don't really see Marvin as a defensive coach anymore. I doubt he tells Zimmer much about how to do his job, and if he does I'm not sure it's for the better. I'd love to see him take a job elsewhere thereby making it easier for us to keep Zimm and/or Gruden. Fans care most about winning.

so if castro's available, but so is kirkpatrick, you'd draft castro? is the offensive line the more pressing need, or is castro just a can't miss guy? i can't see him going that low though. and has jonathan martin's stock been dropping? that's a big boy

(04-26-2012 01:16 PM)Lush Wrote:  so if castro's available, but so is kirkpatrick, you'd draft castro? is the offensive line the more pressing need, or is castro just a can't miss guy? i can't see him going that low though. and has jonathan martin's stock been dropping? that's a big boy

Yes if DeCastro is there you absolutely take him

(04-26-2012 01:16 PM)Lush Wrote:  so if castro's available, but so is kirkpatrick, you'd draft castro? is the offensive line the more pressing need, or is castro just a can't miss guy? i can't see him going that low though. and has jonathan martin's stock been dropping? that's a big boy

I would definitely take DeCastro over Kirkpatrick. Everything I see indicates DeCastro is a "can't miss" guy and the Bengals could definitely use a guard. I'm fine with a CB in R1 but I'm on the fence with Kirkpatrick. I'm just not sold on him for a lot of reasons including injuries - especially compared to Gilmore. Gilmore v. DeCastro is a tougher call for me. FWIW, McShay's final mock has us getting Gilmore at 17 and DeCastro at 21. I'd be absolutely over the moon with that.