All I said was "be nice" how is that being judgemental??? Sheeesh

This conference movement has made people sensative.

(02-17-2012 10:48 PM)Usajags Wrote:  All I said was "be nice" how is that being judgemental??? Sheeesh

This conference movement has made people sensative.

I think it is making people loco. I just got a 10% warning for posting. Let's just hope I don't have another opinion.

I got a 10% warning too, from UAB board, just before the banned me. UAB is very sensitive about the whole UA BoT thing, mention it and they all attack you.

Wow you guys too

(02-17-2012 05:58 PM)Burn the Horse Wrote:  we're not going anywhere Fresno, no matter how successful we are. the Alliance has decided to take UAB, so we have no chance of getting in. To be honest though, I don't want us to join the MergAlliance crap. the Sun Belt has a perfect footprint and we are improving every year. Troy has been a big part of the improvement process and I am a proud member of this Conference. It's always better to build something and be proud of it than to join something you had no part in originally.

Not to mention the new Alliance Conference is ridiculously spread out. The best programs from both of those leagues have left, so the MergAlliance is basically the leftovers signing up together to form a monstrocity. I don't see it as a longterm success, whereas the Sun Belt's stablity ensures that we are here to stay.

I believe some members of that other conference were ticked off and kind of upset when they didn't get in the BE. Seem to find some sort of comfort in joining something extremely large for preservation sake. Reality will eventually set in. May lose a couple of members by breaking apart later.

(02-17-2012 11:12 PM)TrojanCampaign Wrote:  Wow you guys too

Fraid soooo. Guesss we are convicts. Going to the big house soon.

By the way usajag, couldn't agree with you more. This conference is head and shoulders above the people involved in some of these other conferences. Hope some of your members think about that if they are asked to move.

like I said before, I dont think this Alliance will work out in the long term. at the non-AQ level, being in a regional Conference is always going to be better than some monstrocity that stretches across the country, no matter what reason you have for doing so. the money just isn't there.

(02-17-2012 06:22 PM)Fresno St. Alum Wrote:  

(02-17-2012 06:13 PM)Burn the Horse Wrote:  by the time the Alliance falls apart the Sun Belt could be in a position to be the poacher. Our stability and ideal footprint make us a desirable league. To date, our league has simply been the youngest and as such as been the little guy everyone else dumps on. However, a decade of football has shown we are a force to be reckoned with as of late and we are only getting better. I wouldn't be surprised the least bit to see C-USA and the MWC find themselves in deep sh*t once their little experiment fails as they both need members, and SBC and MAC programs decide they don't want to leave their homes.

don't assume we are going to sit still and not improve. I expect us to continue our ascent while the Alliance tries it's little mistake of a merger.

That's homer talk. post that on any other board and see if anyone not in the SBC agrees. Sure you can get better. There were years where the WAC was better than the MWC but when it came time to take they took from us, not us from them.

The BE guys on the expansion board told me there was no way they get raided by the ACC and that they may poach the ACC. I said no, most told me I was dumb and didn't know anything. I took bets and provided the names of Syracuse, Pitt, UConn saying at least 2 of 3 would go to the ACC. Now they see that the ACC is higher up.

Come back in four more years.

Conference USA will find it much harder to pick off the Sun Belt teams if we keep recruiting the way everyone did this season. Heck if FIU pulls in more classes like it did they will more talented than some ACC teams and Big East teams.

I know, right?

Winning solves alot of problems. The Sunbelt teams get those ooc wins and the conference gains relavance. Especially if we win those games against the Mega Merger Teams.

just an FYI to everone, it's "Sun Belt"...two words.

(02-17-2012 11:23 PM)Burn the Horse Wrote:  just an FYI to everone, it's "Sun Belt"...two words.

I'll be damn, I did a little research and you were right...

it's a common mistake, people make it left and right.

(02-17-2012 11:18 PM)TrojanCampaign Wrote:  

(02-17-2012 06:22 PM)Fresno St. Alum Wrote:  

(02-17-2012 06:13 PM)Burn the Horse Wrote:  by the time the Alliance falls apart the Sun Belt could be in a position to be the poacher. Our stability and ideal footprint make us a desirable league. To date, our league has simply been the youngest and as such as been the little guy everyone else dumps on. However, a decade of football has shown we are a force to be reckoned with as of late and we are only getting better. I wouldn't be surprised the least bit to see C-USA and the MWC find themselves in deep sh*t once their little experiment fails as they both need members, and SBC and MAC programs decide they don't want to leave their homes.

don't assume we are going to sit still and not improve. I expect us to continue our ascent while the Alliance tries it's little mistake of a merger.

That's homer talk. post that on any other board and see if anyone not in the SBC agrees. Sure you can get better. There were years where the WAC was better than the MWC but when it came time to take they took from us, not us from them.

The BE guys on the expansion board told me there was no way they get raided by the ACC and that they may poach the ACC. I said no, most told me I was dumb and didn't know anything. I took bets and provided the names of Syracuse, Pitt, UConn saying at least 2 of 3 would go to the ACC. Now they see that the ACC is higher up.

Come back in four more years.

Conference USA will find it much harder to pick off the Sun Belt teams if we keep recruiting the way everyone did this season. Heck if FIU pulls in more classes like it did they will more talented than some ACC teams and Big East teams.

Yeah, FIU had something like 19 to 21 3's ....I pretty much lost count. Of course they will probably go downhill in offense a little now since we got our OC Satterfield back. With all that talent they should still improve though.

If the Sun Belt did add La Tech (personally think they'll wind up in the Alliance) UTSA and Tex St the conference moves decidedly West. Not good for WKU and MTSU. With ASU in the picture the Mountaineers would become the third closest conf school to WKU and in a virtual dead heat for third with MTSU. Hard to believe but ASU becomes the third closest school to FIU & FAU.

(02-17-2012 11:09 PM)Usajags Wrote:  I got a 10% warning too, from UAB board, just before the banned me. UAB is very sensitive about the whole UA BoT thing, mention it and they all attack you.

That's not exactly how it went down, but spin that narrative if it makes you feel better.

(02-17-2012 11:04 PM)GoApps70 Wrote:  

(02-17-2012 10:48 PM)Usajags Wrote:  All I said was "be nice" how is that being judgemental??? Sheeesh

This conference movement has made people sensative.

I think it is making people loco. I just got a 10% warning for posting. Let's just hope I don't have another opinion.

(02-17-2012 11:09 PM)Usajags Wrote:  I got a 10% warning too, from UAB board, just before the banned me. UAB is very sensitive about the whole UA BoT thing, mention it and they all attack you.

(02-17-2012 11:12 PM)TrojanCampaign Wrote:  Wow you guys too

I'm now at 20% warning from the same UAB guy. Attallablaze....The last time was for stating that UAB doesn't have any people showing up to their football games....

(02-18-2012 08:33 AM)AppManDG Wrote:  If the Sun Belt did add La Tech (personally think they'll wind up in the Alliance) UTSA and Tex St the conference moves decidedly West. Not good for WKU and MTSU. With ASU in the picture the Mountaineers would become the third closest conf school to WKU and in a virtual dead heat for third with MTSU. Hard to believe but ASU becomes the third closest school to FIU & FAU.

I have $100 that says Tech won't be in the alliance [at least not this time through.]

I too don't think the alliance will last very long. 4 years max. The main reason this all started was to get AQ status, and I highly doubt that has any chance at all. They are also hoping to get a bigger contract, but with the amount of teams, I doubt once divided up will be any better. Then you got an increase in travel expenses, plus they lost some of their top members.

If we stick together and make the Belt stronger, in a couple years we might be able to cherry pick who we want to expand with. If we fill up on FCS teams, then we wont have room to get a USM, Tulsa, or whoever.