(02-02-2012 01:29 PM)stever20 Wrote:  yeah. Since Calipari left, they've been in the 25-50 range all 3 years. So, kind of similar to a lot of the programs in the league.

Plus, now they don't have to schedule murderer's row OOC with the Big East conference schedule. 7 current top 60 teams on their OOC schedule.

Especially since RC Cola Lite allowed Calipari to walk away with all the recruits save one recruited on Memphis' dime by allowing the recruits to sign LOI's with outs allowing them to leave....

(02-02-2012 03:57 PM)brista21 Wrote:  

(02-02-2012 03:41 PM)PATiger Wrote:  

(02-02-2012 03:27 PM)Bleedin Blue Wrote:  I'm arguing that Army's strengths override their losing more than Memphis' strengths override their losses.

And so far you've shown nothing to prove that statement.

Memphis is better than Army in football, basketball, women's basketball, and baseball.

Memphis has a better television market and national brand.

Memphis has strong ties to the Liberty Bowl.

Memphis has rivalries with eight (current and future) Big East members.

You might be able to make a case of Memphis vs. Temple, but not Army. Memphis is a far better candidate.

Army has a better national brand than Memphis. Army is in West Point, NY part of the NY Metropolitan area so they have the better television market. I'm tired of hearing the Liberty Bowl argument, last season proves how much the Liberty Bowl cares about Memphis when it took a Big East and an SEC team. That being said Memphis has much much higher potential in on-field performance for football.

Um, that change was due to the contract with the Big East and the SEC. I believe it would be logical that with the local school in the Big East, that relationship would be made even stronger likely eliminating CUSA completely from the bowl clearing the BE as sole participant each year.

(02-02-2012 04:17 PM)Bleedin Blue Wrote:  

(02-02-2012 03:42 PM)Tigeer Wrote:  

(02-02-2012 03:27 PM)Bleedin Blue Wrote:  

(02-02-2012 08:43 AM)memphistiger89 Wrote:  Not to rain on your parade, but other than wins in football, are there other factors that led to Boise getting an invite to the BE? Is there something that I'm missing???

You're right, that's what got Boise in. The difference is that Boise is a top 15 team pretty much every season. Memphis and Army both lose more than they win. He argued that Memphis sucks less. I responded by making the case that the positives Army brings to the table still outwiegh them sucking slightly more. By me saying the line you mentioned, I was looking to direct attention to Army's off the field strengths.

For example, you wouldn't argue Southern Miss brings more to a conference than Notre Dame would you? Even though Southern Miss had the better record and was ranked, there are still other factors that make Notre Dame the much better add. The same applies to Army. I'm not saying that Army = Notre Dame (they obviously don't), just trying to come up with an example.

As for Boise, There's a big difference between making the case from a win/loss perspective for a top 15 team that wins 11 games every season, compared to teams that win only four or 5. I don't believe you can judge these things in a vacuum. Boise's wins overrides their weaknesses. I'm arguing that Army's strengths override their losing more than Memphis' strengths override their losses.

Boise State will find things a bit more difficult playing the schedule they are going to have to play going forward. You do not believe me I know, but you will see. Attrition is a tough thing to deal with; top 15 will not be as easily done year in and year out. I love what Boise has done - knocking off the big boys to start a season. And I wish you could of had the chance at the BCS title at least one time in the past 5 years - would have loved to have seen it.

Remember your roots, my friend; Boise was not what it is today even 20 years ago. You had relaxed academic standards, built a program and racked up wins in a so/so league.

Yeah, I agree with you. Don't get me wrong, I'm not arguing we're always gonna be at the top, I'm just looking at the past and saying that what we've done over the past decade earns us a spot in the BE is all. Things will no doubt get tougher and we'll have down seasons just like any other program at some point... but I look forward to the challenge of competing with the big boys. Should be a fun ride!

With Memphis, you have chosen to ignore the last decade in football and focused on the last three years.

(02-02-2012 06:24 PM)Fireman451 Wrote:  

(02-02-2012 05:44 PM)PATiger Wrote:  FedEx paid $100M for naming rights on the basketball stadium that the Memphis Grizzlies and Memphis Tigers play in. They also contributed $75M to build the FedEx Institute of Technology on the University of Memphis campus. Not to mention single-handedly paying for a new baseball stadium for the Tigers.

I don't think there is any question about FedEx's interest in the University of Memphis. They are one of the single largest donors we have. Not to mention that FedEx CEO Fred Smith's son plays football for the Tigers.

Is FedEx paying all those unemployed head coaches salaries too? :-)

I unserstand FedEx pays for the naming rights of the arena. Does the university own the arena? Does any of that arena naming rights money go to the athletic program? Can FedEx financially support the football program? Thats what matters in all the realignment, not a baseball stadium.

It will be a part (if small) if a school might be considered a candidate in all sports. Reflects on commitment of the overall athletic program,

(02-01-2012 10:42 PM)bearcatlawjd Wrote:  Football is fine right now. Boise State, Houston, UCF, SMU, SDSU, and Navy are pretty much the best of what was left considering that you either had to be in a big market or really good. ECU, Marshall and Southern Miss are still out there in the east while BYU, Air Force, UNLV, Nevada, New Mexico, and Colorado State are the best of the west. To be honest the alliance and the Big East could still be great conferences.

Your kidding right UNLV, New Mexico and Colorado State have been horrible. Colorado State is at least making some moves to get back to respectible but the others........

AdamZagoria
Hearing there may be legs to the latest round of Memphis-to-the-Big East reports

(02-07-2012 11:57 AM)Sactowndog Wrote:  

(02-01-2012 10:42 PM)bearcatlawjd Wrote:  Football is fine right now. Boise State, Houston, UCF, SMU, SDSU, and Navy are pretty much the best of what was left considering that you either had to be in a big market or really good. ECU, Marshall and Southern Miss are still out there in the east while BYU, Air Force, UNLV, Nevada, New Mexico, and Colorado State are the best of the west. To be honest the alliance and the Big East could still be great conferences.

Your kidding right UNLV, New Mexico and Colorado State have been horrible. Colorado State is at least making some moves to get back to respectible but the others........

Agreed, substitute Hawaii and Fresno St for UNLV and New Mexico and that statement makes more sense

Zagoria and McNamara have both tweeted about Memphis to the Big East.



Sure is a lot of smoke and it's not coming from the Memphis camp. It's coming from people who regularly cover the Big East.

If Memphis does join- here's the conference schedule for them:
Home
Cincinnati
Syracuse
Rutgers
So Florida

Away
Connecticut
Louisville
Pittsburgh

Memphis would need to add 1 OOC game. They already have a FCS game.

They could keep one of the CUSA games as their OOC.

Your Jennifer Tilly sig block is very distracting.....

(02-07-2012 01:01 PM)PATiger Wrote:  They could keep one of the CUSA games as their OOC.

Assuming C-USA would agree to it. You never know. But they can find somebody somewhere for one OOC game.

possible that one of the incoming BE teams may have an opening in a BE preview.

(02-07-2012 12:35 PM)stever20 Wrote:  If Memphis does join- here's the conference schedule for them:
Home
Cincinnati
Syracuse
Rutgers
So Florida

Away
Connecticut
Louisville
Pittsburgh

Memphis would need to add 1 OOC game. They already have a FCS game.

Florida State is looking for a game.

(02-07-2012 01:04 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(02-07-2012 01:01 PM)PATiger Wrote:  They could keep one of the CUSA games as their OOC.

Assuming C-USA would agree to it. You never know. But they can find somebody somewhere for one OOC game.

I don't see how a conference could prevent every school from playing us. Out of 11 other teams, there should be at least one who would do it.

(02-07-2012 01:11 PM)PATiger Wrote:  

(02-07-2012 01:04 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(02-07-2012 01:01 PM)PATiger Wrote:  They could keep one of the CUSA games as their OOC.

Assuming C-USA would agree to it. You never know. But they can find somebody somewhere for one OOC game.

I don't see how a conference could prevent every school from playing us. Out of 11 other teams, there should be at least one who would do it.

While true- all the conference has their OOC schedules set- so there would be no opening next year.

(02-07-2012 01:11 PM)aTxTIGER Wrote:  

(02-07-2012 12:35 PM)stever20 Wrote:  If Memphis does join- here's the conference schedule for them:
Home
Cincinnati
Syracuse
Rutgers
So Florida

Away
Connecticut
Louisville
Pittsburgh

Memphis would need to add 1 OOC game. They already have a FCS game.

Florida State is looking for a game.

Memphis and FSU have played off and on since 1959, with the Seminoles leading the series 7-10-1. I remember that damned tie like it was yesterday. Had them beat with seconds left in a drizzling rain, when a dubious pass interference call put them in field-goal position.

(02-07-2012 01:11 PM)aTxTIGER Wrote:  

(02-07-2012 12:35 PM)stever20 Wrote:  If Memphis does join- here's the conference schedule for them:
Home
Cincinnati
Syracuse
Rutgers
So Florida

Away
Connecticut
Louisville
Pittsburgh

Memphis would need to add 1 OOC game. They already have a FCS game.

Florida State is looking for a game.

Sign us up and give us that big check

(02-07-2012 01:02 PM)ConanX Wrote:  Your Jennifer Tilly sig block is very distracting.....

If you've seen one, you've seen 'em both...

(02-07-2012 01:28 PM)Gray Avenger Wrote:  Memphis and FSU have played off and on since 1959, with the Seminoles leading the series 7-10-1. I remember that damned tie like it was yesterday. Had them beat with seconds left in a drizzling rain, when a dubious pass interference call put them in field-goal position.

Right now, they would beat us like they caught us in bed with their wives.