IDC,
OJ is already 17 years old. I doubt he is growing anymore. Also, my main point was I don't see him developing his game any more by playing in high school (b/c he's already built and he can already shoot) and he's not good enough right now to be in the NBA.
I'll chime in some more after I see him play against the #4 ranked Div . 1 team in the state, maybe I'll be converted.
I'm gonna check out Pogue in a few weeks, hopefully he's all that I'm hearing on here.

Intimidate, Dominate, Celebrate Wrote:You never know, in 2 years NCH may have 3 guys go in the NBA draft, if Ellis is as good as they say he is.

But Mayo has no supporting cast at NCH besides Walker.:rolleyes:

Those 3 could easily develop into NBA caliber guys right out of HS and I think NCH will put at least 2 more in Division 1 programs. It's almost like SVSM when Lebron was there, they make everybody on the team better every day.

I would take a 2007 class of Walker, Rios, and Pogue in a heartbeat. 2 of the 3 look good for UC right now, especially if UC lands Jonathon Hall.

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i highly doubt mayo and walker will spend all four years at NCH. The competition is horrendous. Oak Hill or the GCL/Winton Woods are in their futures.

Why did they go to NCH in the first place.

HoopsJunky Wrote:Cook and Pogue will be playing at Woodward tonight at 7:30 PM.
If you go don't forget to wear your Red and Black.

Incorrect. The game has been postponed /cancelled because of impending weather.
I spoke to a Woodward player a few hours ago.

I don't know why they went to NCH in particular, but OJ is originally from Huntington WV. He could not play varsity bball as an eighth grader, so he moved to KY in order to do so. Then I guess he realized that b/c of his age, he would not be able to play bball as a senior in KY, so he moved to Ohio where he will be able to. My guess is that he has some sort of connection in NCH.

fulrok Wrote:I don't know why they went to NCH in particular, but OJ is originally from Huntington WV. He could not play varsity bball as an eighth grader, so he moved to KY in order to do so. Then I guess he realized that b/c of his age, he would not be able to play bball as a senior in KY, so he moved to Ohio where he will be able to. My guess is that he has some sort of connection in NCH.

His uncle lives in NCH I believe.

He knows the head coach for NCH from the AAU circuit.

For any of you that don't think OJ can play the point in the league: OJ has great handles and is the best passer I have ever seen, at any level. This kid is amazing. He is already at least as good as Shaun Livingston and he is bulkier and a much better shooter. The sky is the limit for this kid.

The thing that worries me about Walker is that he depends on his athleticism a ton. Granted he is an freakish athlete(I remember watching Walker get boxed out for a rebound and then jumping over the guy and tip dunking it) but he really needs to develop more of his game.

Didn't Sonny Viscaro (sp) say that Mayo was the best PG Prospect he has seen in High School since Isiah Thomas?

HoopsJunky Wrote:Didn't Sonny Viscaro (sp) say that Mayo was the best PG Prospect he has seen in High School since Isiah Thomas?

Yes. And DP, I doubt you'll see any of them transferring to Oak Hills or a GCL School. If they transfer they have to sit out 1 year before they're able to play again. And as far as the level of competition, you can expect NCH to do alot of traveling next year to tournaments and big "showcase" games like SVSM did when Lebron was there.

He went to NCH because he knew Jamie Mahaffey (sp?) NCH coach, and former Miami Redhawk player.

Did Ivan Harris have to sit out when he transferred from Springfield South to Oak Hill? I didn't think he did. Why would O.J.? If he does it in the summer it shouldn't be an issue.

DP3113 Wrote:He went to NCH because he knew Jamie Mahaffey (sp?) NCH coach, and former Miami Redhawk player.

Did Ivan Harris have to sit out when he transferred from Springfield South to Oak Hill? I didn't think he did. Why would O.J.? If he does it in the summer it shouldn't be an issue.

It has to be what the athletic association considers a "bon a fide" transfer with the guardians moving a distance for a specific reason, not just for better competition. Moving from Springfield South to Oak Hill is a distance that the athletic association can understand, moving to the Oak Hill school district from NCH would more then likely not get approved because of the lack of distance. For example, if Ivan Harris' parents or guardian got a job in the Cincinnati area then yes Ivan would need to move schools so they would not make him sit out a year, but with how close Oak Hills is to NCH a change in jobs would not require moving.

As far as whether it's in the summer or not really has nothing to do with it, it has to do with the fact the he's already played/practiced at his current school.

The exact wording is:

Quote:If a studen transfers after the first day of the student's ninth grade year or after having established eligibility prior to the start of school by playing in a contest (scrimmage, preview, or regular season/tournament contest), the student will be ineligible for one year from the date on enrollment in the school to which the student transferred. A student is considered to have transferred whenever the student changes from that school in which the student was enrolled as a ninth grader to any other school regardless of whether the school from which the student transferred or to which the student transfers is a public or non-public, member or non-member or whether or the high schools are within the same school district.

Honestly its all up to how the association wants to view it and how they want to decide. I'd doubt seriously that they would just say it was okay for any of those 3 to move to a school basically within the same city (cincinnati) without making them sit out a year.

As far as the level of competition, NCH has already played in one out of state tourney this year and will play in more next year and more then likely even at least one or two "showcase" type games. Lebron played at SVSM which was not in the big school division either and it didn't seem to hurt him come NBA draft time.

Quote:The year after that, O. J. Mayo, a 6-foot-5 sophomore point guard is projected as a high lottery pick." - Chad Ford, ESPN.com

Woo-hoo. It still doesn't eliminate the fact that 90% of the teams they'll play suck. What a joke playing at NCH.

Bearcattitude Wrote:Woo-hoo. It still doesn't eliminate the fact that 90% of the teams they'll play suck. What a joke playing at NCH.

Let's see, they've played St X and Taft so far, they're set to play Toledo St Johns, Woodward, and 2 out of state teams in a WV tourney. They're setting up at least one out of state tourney for next year and are talking about touring like SVSM's did with Lebron and company. He's not seeing that much of a difference in level of competition then what Lebron saw early on at SVSM.

Of course you said Mayo didn't have a supporting cast besides Walker so I don't expect you to know much about their team.

Oleski, I think that DP was referring to the Oak Hill academy in Virginia. Point taken about close schools such as Winton Woods or St. X though.

fulrok Wrote:Oleski,  I think that DP was referring to the Oak Hill academy in Virginia.   Point taken about close schools such as Winton Woods or St. X though.

I was hoping he wasn't because then his arguement made even less sense since transfer rules are determined by state, not nationally (I was hoping he was talking about a different Ivan Harris) but if he wanted to go there, he could, that is if he can come up with the tuition and room and board. Most guys, especially ones on teams as stacked at NCH is now, don't look to go to Oak Hill unless they need to A) Get noticed B) Need to improve their games (which Mayo won't need to do) or C) Need to improve their grades/test scores (see Jamont Gordon). Oak Hill is really a hype/BB factory, Mayo already has the skills and the hype. I honestly thought he meant Oak Hill(s) since he was talking Winton Woods/GCL school and those schools aren't on the same level as Oak Hill Academy.

People knock NCH because it's in the smaller school division, but with the team they have now you'll rarely see them play OH teams within their division (unless they're GOOD teams) except for their league games for the next 2 years.

OJ will go pro after high school, you might get 1 out of Walker, speculate all you want. If you think besides Pogue, that UC would land all three, you might want to clean your pipe and check into rehab.

hammerbearcat Wrote:OJ will go pro after high school, you might get 1 out of Walker, speculate all you want. If you think besides Pogue, that UC would land all three, you might want to clean your pipe and check into rehab.

Like I said earlier, I'd be happy with Rios, Walker, and Pogue. Walker could be the "DerMarr" for that class, or hopefully the "Carmelo".