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Around 2 years ago I floated the idea of promoting this site to a much greater degree and to a larger audience. Specifically I suggested an ad or two in the JCP and/or East Tennessean. The idea was rebuffed at the time because of a fear of attracting trolls, flamers, other people trying to hawk their nonsense. I think the benefits outweigh the cost. So we`ll have to stamp out a few more people than usual trying to sell baked goods or magazines, and you`ll have to deal with a few more idiots usual. Big deal, it will be well worth it.

If this truly is the last/only bastion of dissent (not sure I buy that), then we should want this place to be the most widely used/read sports related "media" in the area. This place is too hard to find, too "off the grid." Most seem Ok with that, not me. I found this place by pure accident while looking at the ETSU basketball Wikipedia page. There was a link at the bottom of the wiki page for this board, it's no longer there btw (something we can fix).

Its time to go MAINSTREAM, and not just as a message board.

Message boards and discussions are great, but they're not for everyone. This place should be about more than just discussion. This should also be a place to come for facts and information. And by facts I don't mean things you have to scroll through 30 pages to get to. There have been all sorts of articles and posts with good info in them that have simply gone by the wayside. I went looking for info detailing basketball budgets that was posted here a year or so ago and gave up because I was pressed for time and the search feature wasn't working. There have been all kinds of budgets info, interviews, articles, and other things that have been lost. Bucster posted a treasure trove of old Bucs basketball games, they are twisting in the wind now in a maze of different threads and posts.

What we need is a sticky'd post with an index of links to any and all relevant facts and info. An index complete with headings and links would not only be giant time saver but also an excellent source of info.

There have been tons of articles, pictures, videos and other things that have been posted that have been posted and are now lost. Some of the links to articles are now dead and unrecoverable. There's nothing we can do about those now short raiding JCP and other sites archives. In the future though, we can paste the articles into posts with citations so they don't get lost or die when the links go bad. I was looking for the article that was posted here a few years ago with quotes from the AD and President at UNC Charlotte over the return to football. Guess what, that article is twisting in the wind as well. Most likely the link is dead by this point, info lost. Dave Mullins recently said that the days of Mid-Majors attracting 10,000 fans are over, that's a article with a quote that should be indexed and added to to the sticky.

We have plenty of people here who are good writers, there's no reason why that writing should be limited to posts strung out over a variety of threads and pages. There is no need for us to take away from the message board discussion to do it either. We can collectively write sourced and cited fact-sheets/talking points for basketball, football, and athletics in general. That way, the appeal is not just a bunch of people arguing on a message.

People get upset with the media for not taking Bartow, Mullins and others to task, for tossing out softballs. Why not invite members of the media to participate here, or at the very least visit the site. At worse they get a different take on the issues. At best they participate and/or start asking many of the same questions we've been asking and wondering about for years. Mainstream media around the country are now including links and picking up stories from blogs and message boards, why not this one? I read Michigan and Cincinnati blogs written by full-time bloggers who have press credentials. Now I don't expect that in this base but you get the idea. If we become more than a message board then we become impossible to ignore or dismiss.

The advertising is probably the easiest, least time consuming part of this, though the most expensive (depending on what we decide to do). We could run a small ad every month or every other month in the East Tennessean for relatively cheap, JCP is more expensive but not impossible. A logo/motto and ETSUFANS.COM is all it would need to say. I know from personal experience that using a school's official logo can get you into hot water so we can always come up with our own. Advertising on campus is even easier, especially if there are current students on board. It doesn't take much to hang flyers on campus, just need approval from the ARC. There have to be some digital media people on here who could design a flyer. If not I have several friends who were digital media students who I could talk into coming up with something. There is plenty of nonsense on the boards on campus right now why not a flyer for this site?

The easiest of all advertising we could do comes via social media, Twitter, Facebook, etc and it’s free. It would take a second to create an ETSUFANS.com Twitter Account or Facebook page where relevant info, articles, etc are linked or tweeted out. There are already ETSU related Facebook groups packed with members who could be reached by a simple link or post. No one likes spam so clogging a site with links isn't a good idea but a quick message to admin of the group is all it would likely take.

Now its going to take some leg work and time but I think transforming this site is a worthwhile goal. Fan1 certainly shouldn't be responsible for doing all the heavy lifting as much of it is time consuming.

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If we all pitch in and help in the process this is very doable, and in a relatively short period of time.

We lambaste Mullins and others for being small minded and not thinking big while we all sit here in our small little niche. The goal for this site should be to be read by the same number of people who read the sports section of the Johnson City Press.
01-25-2012 12:54 PM
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Keep your powder dry until 1/29.

Read the announcements.

**** is gonna get real, son.
01-25-2012 01:03 PM
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(01-25-2012 12:54 PM)BucNut22 Wrote:  Bucster posted a treasure trove of old Bucs basketball games, they are twisting in the wind now in a maze of different threads and posts.

What we need is a sticky'd post with an index of links to any and all relevant facts and info. An index complete with headings and links would not only be giant time saver but also an excellent source of info.

I'm happy to go thru some of my old posts and bump up my video posts to help out or I can just post a direct link to my youtube page where they are all currently residing.

BTW I still have a ton of videos I would like to put on youtube, I just haven't had much free time to go thru them all, plus I've been away from the board for a while, but I was thinking of starting that project back up again to help lighten this place up.
01-25-2012 02:17 PM
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I can't believe ETSU doesn't promote this site. The school should have banner's in the dome promoting this...furthermore, there ought to be regular posts from players and coaches on here. How 'bout a news conference where fans can ask questions? It could be more productive than the coaches shows on broadcast stations. Buc22...I'm with ya. Your ideas are spot on! One thing, my hero Mister Jennings needs to be recruited into this. He has disappeared from all things Buc. That is an abomination. He's one of the nicest people in the universe, greatest athlete in ETSU history and is nowhere to be found except coaching a Bluefield. It stinks to high heavens.
01-25-2012 10:24 PM
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They aren't gonna promote something that criticizes them. This is pretty much the only outlet for people to complain about how ETSU has screwed the pooch. The JC Press won't report anything negative and they are the ones that are supposed to be critical when they need to be.
01-25-2012 10:53 PM
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You're right about the JC Press, but the Monster is even worse. Even Bill Meade will criticize his beloved UT from time to time, but nobody on that station EVER questions anything ETSU does on or off the court. And when Dave is on there every other Wednesday....nothing but softballs.
01-25-2012 11:01 PM
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Great ideas! This site was hard to find... Somebody make some flyers and I volunteer to round up some friends and hand them out. I have longs breaks between classes this semester anyways
01-26-2012 12:07 AM
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(01-26-2012 12:07 AM)fsurookie911 Wrote:  Great ideas! This site was hard to find... Somebody make some flyers and I volunteer to round up some friends and hand them out. I have longs breaks between classes this semester anyways

You should also stop by the ACC board here ... we have quite a few ACC fans on it.
01-26-2012 12:19 AM
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(01-25-2012 10:53 PM)ETSUfan1 Wrote:  They aren't gonna promote something that criticizes them. This is pretty much the only outlet for people to complain about how ETSU has screwed the pooch. The JC Press won't report anything negative and they are the ones that are supposed to be critical when they need to be.
My brother asked about this the earlier in the year "isn't there a link from the ETSU website." I couldn't help but laugh.

This is the LAST link that would ever be put up by ETSU.
01-26-2012 01:08 AM
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(01-26-2012 12:07 AM)fsurookie911 Wrote:  Great ideas! This site was hard to find... Somebody make some flyers and I volunteer to round up some friends and hand them out. I have longs breaks between classes this semester anyways
I`ll see about getting designs for a flyer. Should be able to post a few props for us on here to choose.

I can get a Twitter and Facebook account setup for this place no problem.
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Well, I give the JC press some credit today for the article on the $20,000 shot. Maybe this will cause them to delve deeper in the AD. Doubt it though...
01-26-2012 02:32 PM
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That's because they had a news reporter and not a sports reporter cover the story.
01-26-2012 03:35 PM
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(01-25-2012 02:17 PM)Bucster Wrote:  
(01-25-2012 12:54 PM)BucNut22 Wrote:  Bucster posted a treasure trove of old Bucs basketball games, they are twisting in the wind now in a maze of different threads and posts.

What we need is a sticky'd post with an index of links to any and all relevant facts and info. An index complete with headings and links would not only be giant time saver but also an excellent source of info.

I'm happy to go thru some of my old posts and bump up my video posts to help out or I can just post a direct link to my youtube page where they are all currently residing.

BTW I still have a ton of videos I would like to put on youtube, I just haven't had much free time to go thru them all, plus I've been away from the board for a while, but I was thinking of starting that project back up again to help lighten this place up.

Just to follow up on this for any new posters that aren't aware of the ETSU games I've posted on YouTube or for the older posters that would like to re-watch some games, you can view them all here on my YouTube Page. Right now I have 7 full games. I also have between 10-15 clips of game highlights from both the early 90's and the Smith/Wadood years. There are even some football highlights from 1996 and 1997 and Paul Hoilman highlights from the College Homerun Derby.

I'm going to try and start this back up again so keep your eye out on a new game that I will try to post late tonight/early tomorrow morning.

Lastly, if anyone has any requests of a specific game they would like to see, let me know and I'll see if I have it, I've got probably around 40 to 50 games from 1988 - 2005.
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01-31-2012 01:42 PM
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I now have a link on my youtube page to this message board and the ETSU Basketball wikipedia page. Not sure how much traffic my youtube page gets but I do have 25 subscribers so maybe that can help drive new traffic to this site.
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(02-01-2012 09:51 AM)Bucster Wrote:  I now have a link on my youtube page to this message board and the ETSU Basketball wikipedia page. Not sure how much traffic my youtube page gets but I do have 25 subscribers so maybe that can help drive new traffic to this site.
Glad you brought this up. Need to go back and add a link to this site to the Wiki page.

May get to work on an index tonight to tomorrow as well.
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