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UC in RPI Rankings
strength of schedule 227

http://statsheet.com/mcb/rankings/RPI
 
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RE: UC 110 in RPI
A win over Syracuse would be a huge boost.
 
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RE: UC 110 in RPI
Only our wins over Georgetown and Notre Dame look good for RPI purposes. Villanova and Pitt are struggling, although I expect Villanova to get better as the year moves along. Pitt looks lost. Oklahoma had a nice win over K-State yesterday, but other than that our other OOC opponents, including Xavier, have done nothing to impress. The loss to Marshall will not kill UC, but the loss to Presbyterian may keep us out of the NCAA tourney unless we can finish 11-7 in the BEast.
 
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RE: UC 110 in RPI
(01-15-2012 05:14 PM)vabearcat Wrote:  Only our wins over Georgetown and Notre Dame look good for RPI purposes. Villanova and Pitt are struggling, although I expect Villanova to get better as the year moves along. Pitt looks lost. Oklahoma had a nice win over K-State yesterday, but other than that our other OOC opponents, including Xavier, have done nothing to impress. The loss to Marshall will not kill UC, but the loss to Presbyterian may keep us out of the NCAA tourney unless we can finish 11-7 in the BEast.

well that means they could finish 7-6 and be 11-7
 
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RE: UC 110 in RPI
(01-15-2012 05:14 PM)vabearcat Wrote:  Only our wins over Georgetown and Notre Dame look good for RPI purposes. Villanova and Pitt are struggling, although I expect Villanova to get better as the year moves along. Pitt looks lost. Oklahoma had a nice win over K-State yesterday, but other than that our other OOC opponents, including Xavier, have done nothing to impress. The loss to Marshall will not kill UC, but the loss to Presbyterian may keep us out of the NCAA tourney unless we can finish 11-7 in the BEast.

UC finishes 11-7, 21-10 overall, and they are a lock for the NCAA's. Just playing Syracuse will do wonders for their RPI.
 
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RE: UC 110 in RPI
(01-15-2012 05:50 PM)Ragpicker Wrote:  
(01-15-2012 05:14 PM)vabearcat Wrote:  Only our wins over Georgetown and Notre Dame look good for RPI purposes. Villanova and Pitt are struggling, although I expect Villanova to get better as the year moves along. Pitt looks lost. Oklahoma had a nice win over K-State yesterday, but other than that our other OOC opponents, including Xavier, have done nothing to impress. The loss to Marshall will not kill UC, but the loss to Presbyterian may keep us out of the NCAA tourney unless we can finish 11-7 in the BEast.

UC finishes 11-7, 21-10 overall, and they are a lock for the NCAA's. Just playing Syracuse will do wonders for their RPI.

We'll see. If UC goes 11-7, 21-10 they'll likely have an RPI in 80s. If they made the tournament they would be the lowest ranked at large RPI team to ever get in. Last year the selection committee really penalized teams for their poor non-conference schedules (See Colorado, Virginia Tech, and Alabama). Alabama won the SEC West by 3 games and didn't make the tourney while a Georgia team they beat twice including in the conference tournament got in...both teams basically had equal quality wins.

Maybe UC would get in, given your scenario, but I would not feel good about it. Hopefully they finish in the top 4 in the Big East and this won't be an issue other than seeding.
 
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11-7 and I don't care if the RPI is over 100. Lead pipe lock. Only question would be the seed.
 
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(01-15-2012 06:05 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  11-7 and I don't care if the RPI is over 100. Lead pipe lock. Only question would be the seed.

It would be unprecedented and completely against the message the committee sent to teams last year. Not saying you are wrong, just saying that I would be really worried given that scenario.
 
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Something wrong with the rpi, IMHO. I don't care about the weak OOC schedule. The Big East alone should jack it up higher than that.
 
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We have in the RPI #1 Cuse, #4 UConn and #14 WVU in out next 3 games.
 
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RE: UC 110 in RPI
(01-15-2012 06:07 PM)bearcatmark Wrote:  
(01-15-2012 06:05 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  11-7 and I don't care if the RPI is over 100. Lead pipe lock. Only question would be the seed.

It would be unprecedented and completely against the message the committee sent to teams last year. Not saying you are wrong, just saying that I would be really worried given that scenario.

I thought the committee has said they don't use the RPI anymore?
 
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The RPI is one of many factors that the selection committee uses, but it is no longer THE factor.
 
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I am worried about Bobinski being the chair of the committee. Not stressed about the RPI toi much. It was gamed in recent years and marginali!ed as a result.
 
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Ken Pom has us at 47, much more reasonable.
 
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RE: UC 110 in RPI
(01-15-2012 06:07 PM)bearcatmark Wrote:  
(01-15-2012 06:05 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  11-7 and I don't care if the RPI is over 100. Lead pipe lock. Only question would be the seed.

It would be unprecedented and completely against the message the committee sent to teams last year. Not saying you are wrong, just saying that I would be really worried given that scenario.

I think how many teams the BE has going in will affect this as well....
 
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RE: UC 110 in RPI
(01-15-2012 06:18 PM)BearChatter v2.0 Wrote:  Something wrong with the rpi, IMHO. I don't care about the weak OOC schedule. The Big East alone should jack it up higher than that.

The Big East isn't what it was in years past.
 
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(01-15-2012 07:25 PM)Coopdaddy67 Wrote:  
(01-15-2012 06:18 PM)BearChatter v2.0 Wrote:  Something wrong with the rpi, IMHO. I don't care about the weak OOC schedule. The Big East alone should jack it up higher than that.

The Big East isn't what it was in years past.

And yet the BE is still the #2 rated conference with three of the top 5 and six of the top 20 in the RPI. It won't be 11 bids like last year, but there are still going to be a whole lot of BE teams in the tournament.
 
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RE: UC 110 in RPI
... the 11-7 would depend on who we beat.
It's a wide range of possible wins and losses.
If we can continue to win most of our games, I don't see us only going 11-7 anyway.
I'm thinking we get 12-14 wins.
No one can be certain, but that's how I feel. After watching them claw out of games, they'd normally quit on in other years, I think this team has the best chance to really make an impact in conference.
It's a down conference, everybody is someone beatable, our defense is good enough, to where we don't have to be perfect; on offense.

I'm not tripping over RPI at this point.
 
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11-7 is bubble this year. 12-6 is a lock. Once again it depend on who you beat and what happens in the conference tournament. Also if 11-7 is good for 6th place, I would feel a lot better as well.

We need to learn how to schedule outside of the Big East because it forces UC to win extra Big East game each year.
 
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I wouldn't put too much stock in rpi, at least not now. Win enough games in our conference and it'll all take care of itself. [/i]
 
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