I can hear all the Catholic schools now.

How do you solve a problem like West Virginia?

Quick... somebody call Deloris aka Sister Mary Clarence.

(01-14-2012 04:13 PM)UConn-SMU Wrote:  

(01-14-2012 03:17 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  So? I hired a contractor to build a garage and studio apartment over the top of the garage. He got all the money, and only did half the work. I had to finish it myself. What's your point?

My story was fiction. The point was that "spite" had nothing to do with the contractor wanting to collect the other half of his fee from me. All he wanted was for me to live up to the contract. He wasn't being mean or selfish.

The Big East insisting that the departing schools live up to the Big East contract isn't spiteful. It's how business is done in an advanced society.

If the departing schools want to offer an ungodly amount of money to leave early, that's ok with me. I just don't want the Big East harmed by early departures. That will not happen. Everything else is negotiable.

My turn to tell a story:

You and your contractor have a contract to add a room to your house. However, youtr contractor is suddenly presented with a business opportunity he can't turn down. He has been approached a by a much larger/more prestigous client. Taking this offer would take your contractor's business places that hasn't been in years. He informs you that he is breaking the contract that he has with out and offers to compensate you. You refuse to even negotiate on financial compensation and sue the contractor. In the law suit you argue that no amount of monetary compensation will do and that the contractor should be required to finish your house first and that your house just couldn't survive unless the forsaid contractor was the one working on it

Sounds a little bit closer, don't you think?

Seriously though, I think this issue is about done. Once the ACC has announced its football school the chances of Pitt and Syracuse trying to slip out the door for next year is over, the BE might be a little more willing to negotiate. The Big East played with seven members in 2004, so its not like it hasn't been done before. If filling holes on the conference schedule was so important, the BE would have never signed off on its super secret deal with TCU that let them out early



Jackson

(01-14-2012 01:22 PM)SmallVoice Wrote:  

(01-14-2012 01:07 PM)snowycuse Wrote:  Some Big East fans want to keep everyone for two years out of spite and that is fine.

Yes, it's all just spite. For one thing, Big East fans have no say-so in the matter. This is between the school administrations and the conference administration. All we have are opinions. But spite? No, it's not spite. It's called contractual obligation. It's like me saying that I shouldn't have to pay my mortgage for 5 more years, but out of spite, my bank is insisting I pay what I agreed to pay 25 years ago. The whining isn't coming from Big East fans and it's not WVU fans alone who are whining. You Pitt/Cuse fans who seem to think you for some odd reason don't need to be held to your agreements are no less whiny. Luckily your school administrations seem not to agree with you.

(01-14-2012 01:07 PM)snowycuse Wrote:  As sad as it is by doing the right thing and remaining in the Big East Pitt/Cuse are hurting themselves.

Yes, it is sad and painful to do what you're obligated to do. But life sucks. Enjoy the next two years.

My post history will show that I am 100% in favor of Cuse staying for the 2012 season. Would keeping them in 2013 be a spiteful move by the Big East despite the contract? Absolutely because 1) The conference will have adequate if not better replacements according to 100 posts on this message board 2) Syracuse is more than capable of taking television appearances, Big East championships, Bowl Spots, and NCAA spots from remaining Big East schools.

The legal question I raised is what will the Big East do to make sure Syracuse has a full Big East schedule and conference to play in for 2012? If the plan is no plan then Syracuse/Pitt should announce they will be leaving. What the Big East must now do is find a way to get at least one of the incoming five teams in conference for the 2012 season as a backup plan for losing West Virginia.

It is not about me as a Cuse fan trying to find a way out of the conference early...we are #1 in basketball and most likely lacrosse...life is good. This issue is what is being done about football?

(01-14-2012 10:17 PM)Jackson1011 Wrote:  

(01-14-2012 04:13 PM)UConn-SMU Wrote:  

(01-14-2012 03:17 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  So? I hired a contractor to build a garage and studio apartment over the top of the garage. He got all the money, and only did half the work. I had to finish it myself. What's your point?

My story was fiction. The point was that "spite" had nothing to do with the contractor wanting to collect the other half of his fee from me. All he wanted was for me to live up to the contract. He wasn't being mean or selfish.

The Big East insisting that the departing schools live up to the Big East contract isn't spiteful. It's how business is done in an advanced society.

If the departing schools want to offer an ungodly amount of money to leave early, that's ok with me. I just don't want the Big East harmed by early departures. That will not happen. Everything else is negotiable.

My turn to tell a story:

You and your contractor have a contract to add a room to your house. However, youtr contractor is suddenly presented with a business opportunity he can't turn down. He has been approached a by a much larger/more prestigous client. Taking this offer would take your contractor's business places that hasn't been in years. He informs you that he is breaking the contract that he has with out and offers to compensate you. You refuse to even negotiate on financial compensation and sue the contractor. In the law suit you argue that no amount of monetary compensation will do and that the contractor should be required to finish your house first and that your house just couldn't survive unless the forsaid contractor was the one working on it

Sounds a little bit closer, don't you think?

Seriously though, I think this issue is about done. Once the ACC has announced its football school the chances of Pitt and Syracuse trying to slip out the door for next year is over, the BE might be a little more willing to negotiate. The Big East played with seven members in 2004, so its not like it hasn't been done before. If filling holes on the conference schedule was so important, the BE would have never signed off on its super secret deal with TCU that let them out early



Jackson

You guys don't get it....it's about survival. If WVU gets its way it essentially screws every remaining school. WVU knows that this is true and you have essentially told every Big East school we don't care what happens to you. So if that is the case the BIGEAST needs to show the same disregard for WVU and hold you to your contract until 2014. Your administration has no class so why should the BIg East be sympathetic?

(01-14-2012 10:14 PM)ClairtonPanther Wrote:  Quick... somebody call Deloris aka Sister Mary Clarence.

West Virginia will call your Penguin, and raise you Mother Jones. Y'all don't stand a chance...