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RE: Husky fans, what's the story on Boatright this time?
This article is a pretty good summary of why UCONN really misses Ryan Boatright.

http://www.courant.com/sports/uconn-men/...1694.story
01-23-2012 02:36 AM
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RE: Husky fans, what's the story on Boatright this time?
(01-23-2012 02:35 AM)SF Husky Wrote:  
(01-22-2012 06:55 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  Whatever lets you sleep at night.

I sleep just fine thank you. If you gonna call Calhoun out, how about list bunch of big time coaches who are "cleaner" than Calhoun? Some fans might not like Calhoun because of the way he talks, but show me someone who ran a better program than Calhoun in the last 30 years. I can count on less than half of 1 hand how many times UCONN has been in trouble with the NCAA in the last 30 years with Calhoun at the helm.

Like I said, bring some facts vs. being the typical fan that makes general statement based on crap.
Yeah. You are just the picture of serenity.
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RE: Husky fans, what's the story on Boatright this time?
(01-23-2012 02:35 AM)SF Husky Wrote:  
(01-22-2012 06:55 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  Whatever lets you sleep at night.

I sleep just fine thank you. If you gonna call Calhoun out, how about list bunch of big time coaches who are "cleaner" than Calhoun? Some fans might not like Calhoun because of the way he talks, but show me someone who ran a better program than Calhoun in the last 30 years. I can count on less than half of 1 hand how many times UCONN has been in trouble with the NCAA in the last 30 years with Calhoun at the helm.

Like I said, bring some facts vs. being the typical fan that makes general statement based on crap.

So if/when Calhoun and/or UCONN and/or their recruits break NCAA violations...your excuse on why you ignore those violations are to "list a bunch of coaches who are cleaner"?

Ah...ok.
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RE: Husky fans, what's the story on Boatright this time?
(01-23-2012 02:35 AM)SF Husky Wrote:  
(01-22-2012 06:55 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  Whatever lets you sleep at night.
I sleep just fine thank you.
I wish I did. But that's impossible any longer. Not even my Tempurpedic bed helps... 03-banghead

Husky, I'm going to give you the same advice I gave buck. I figure you'll pay about as much attention as he did as well. But I'll give it a shot anyhow...

The more you debate these things, Husky, especially when you're still emotionally charged from reading something, the more futile your efforts become. As long as you react to such things, you'll get them thrown in your face. People love a train wreck, and you're more than willing to help them rip up the tracks...

Step back and think a bit before you write something. Cool off, take a pill, or what ever it takes to compose yourself BEFORE you start your rant. Oft times you speak with a foot in front of your mouth, and a lot of folks are more than willing to shove it down your throat, just for the comic value of your reactions...

Don't let them do it to you, dude...
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RE: Husky fans, what's the story on Boatright this time?
(01-22-2012 06:44 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  I'll slghtly amend for sheer entertainment value.

Also payback for Calhoun telling the NCAA to sit and spin regarding APR punishment by having Drummond be a (wink wink) walk on.

NCAA has a long memory and is the hog in the pen with the biggest balls.

The point is, it is all well beyond UConn and your basic run-of-the-mill partisan sports politics!
The big issue here is the arbitrary and capricious nature of the NCAA and it's selective use of it's powers.
Due process.
Guilty until proven innocent.
Arbitrary nature of sanctions.
Dubious judiciousness in profiting off of an athlete's name without appropriate compensation.
The absurdity and complete lack of scale in NCAA penalizing an athlete and his/her university for making a $10.00 long distance phone call from coach's office to mom back home while completely condoning the destructive nature of conference raiding that costs universities millions upon millions of dollars all while turning their backs on commitments to the student-athletes!
So, "payback" and "long memory"? Do you think these are the appropriate characteristics of an objectve and independent compliance division of the NCAA?
As stated previously, the NCAA needs to be imploded and begun again with an independent organization presided over by a chairman with real powers.....................

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RE: Husky fans, what's the story on Boatright this time?
You are preaching to the converted.

Back in the 90s when UC's official grad rate was 0.0, NCAA hated Huggins. They thought they finally had him on some academic hijinks to get a kid eligible until his top assistant took the fall, got run out of college coaching, and Bob pulled the head coach Sgt. Schultz defense. Stop me if you've heard this one before...Nearly every decision for years after that went against UC. He leaves, the grad rate is perfect under Cronin, we are finallt getting a fair shake.

Get used to this UCONN...NCAA is going to screw with you at every opportunity as long as Big Jim points fingers at underlings or finds loopholes.
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RE: Husky fans, what's the story on Boatright this time?
(01-23-2012 04:11 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  You are preaching to the converted.

Back in the 90s when UC's official grad rate was 0.0, NCAA hated Huggins. They thought they finally had him on some academic hijinks to get a kid eligible until his top assistant took the fall, got run out of college coaching, and Bob pulled the head coach Sgt. Schultz defense. Stop me if you've heard this one before...Nearly every decision for years after that went against UC. He leaves, the grad rate is perfect under Cronin, we are finallt getting a fair shake.

Get used to this UCONN...NCAA is going to screw with you at every opportunity as long as Big Jim points fingers at underlings or finds loopholes.

HERE IS PART 2 TO THE NCAA-SS/BOATRIGHT SAGA:

Living in Fear of the N.C.A.A.By JOE NOCERA

It was early in the evening of Jan. 13 when Ryan Boatright, the freshman basketball player at the University of Connecticut, learned that he was being suspended from the team for the second time this season. Earlier that day, he had flown into South Bend, Ind., with his teammates for a game against Notre Dame. The 19-year-old point guard was excited because some 400 people from his hometown, Aurora, Ill., were coming to see him play.

When his coach, Jim Calhoun, broke the news that the N.C.A.A. was still investigating him, Boatright collapsed in Calhoun’s arms. In tears, he called his mother, Tanesha, who began weeping uncontrollably. As I chronicled on Saturday, it was her acceptance of plane tickets a year or so ago that had caused his first suspension. The N.C.A.A. had ruled the tickets an “improper benefit,” and had ordered him to sit out six games and pay a $100-per-month fine to repay the tickets. What more, she wondered, could the N.C.A.A. want?
A lot, it turned out. Tanesha is a single mother raising four children on a small salary. The N.C.A.A. investigators viewed her circumstances as a cause for suspicion, not sympathy. For instance, she owns a car. Where did she get the money to pay for it, they asked? How did she pay for her home? And so on.
Concluding that she had no choice but to cooperate — otherwise, her son would surely pay a severe price — Tanesha turned over her bank statements, as the N.C.A.A. demanded. Four N.C.A.A. investigators pored through her financial records and conducted interrogations in Aurora, seeking “evidence” that she was getting money from “improper” sources. (Tanesha declined to comment.)
When the investigators saw a series of cash deposits in her bank account, they demanded to know the source of the money. She told them: Friends had given her money so that she and her children could have a joyful Christmas. The investigators said they didn’t believe her; they felt sure that she must have gotten the money from an unscrupulous sports agent or some other party outlawed by the N.C.A.A.
Meanwhile, her son remains in limbo, unable to play the game he loves, his reputation unfairly besmirched, while he awaits the N.C.A.A.’s latest ruling. I keep hearing it might happen soon, but, so far, nothing. People associated with Connecticut basketball, including Calhoun, are said to be furious at the N.C.A.A.’s treatment of Ryan Boatright. But the university is as fearful of the N.C.A.A. as Tanesha. It has yet to say a single word publicly on his behalf.
When I asked the N.C.A.A. about the Boatright case, the response I received was deeply disingenuous. Refusing to discuss the actions of its investigators, it essentially said that Connecticut, not the N.C.A.A., declared Boatright ineligible. That is technically true. Schools declare athletes ineligible because if they don’t, the N.C.A.A. will deprive them of scholarships, force them to forfeit games and prevent them from playing in postseason games. Most astonishing, an N.C.A.A. spokeswoman told me that the organization does not have the legal authority to compel cooperation from parents. Again, technically true: Its real weapon — the threat of destroying their sons’ careers — is far more potent than any mere subpoena.
Over the past three weeks, as I’ve written a series of columns about the abuses of the N.C.A.A., one question keeps reverberating in my head: How can this be happening in America?
How can children be punished for the deeds of their parents — deeds that aren’t even wrong in any basic legal sense? How can the N.C.A.A. blithely wreck careers without regard to due process or common fairness? How can it act so ruthlessly to enforce rules that are so petty? Why won’t anybody stand up to these outrageous violations of American values and American justice?
The columns have also prompted e-mails, mostly from parents of college athletes, with their own examples of N.C.A.A. injustices. The women’s basketball player at Harvard who came to the United States from Britain and isn’t allowed to play because she struggled when she first got to the U.S. and had to repeat a year of high school. The team manager — yes, team manager! — who was forced out of his role because he knew a high school player that his school was recruiting. The A students forced off the court because the N.C.A.A. does not include their high school A.P. courses among its “approved” coursework. The coach whose career was ended when the N.C.A.A. accused him of “unethical conduct” without giving him a chance to defend himself.
“The N.C.A.A. is like the Gestapo,” wrote one parent in an e-mail. “It’s out there, we all fear it, and it is all-powerful and follows its own rules and makes them up as they go along. Who are they protecting? The same thing the Gestapo protected: themselves.”

Makes you rethink some things, doesn't it?
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RE: Husky fans, what's the story on Boatright this time?
(01-22-2012 05:37 PM)SF Husky Wrote:  
(01-22-2012 05:18 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  Anything that comes from outside the family should be considered suspect, Husky. If the Boatright's were smart, and wanted to cover all their bases, they'd have inquired about anything that might be considered, whether they believed it was a problem or not, just to be on the safe side. That's what a full investigation is supposed to do in the first place...

Anyone expecting an investigation should make the info as easy as possible for them to find, so the investigation concludes in your favor as quickly as possible. It's common sense - unless you have something to hide...

The whole thing got nothing to do with UCONN and UCONN is being punished big time for it. The 3 games UCONN lost (UCF, Cincy and Tenn) would be Ws with Ryan. I have little doubt about that.

The whole thing is literally a joke. NYT will have another article out on it on Tuesday per the author above. We will find out more. One way or another I just want to see the situation end so UCONN and Ryan can move on. It is killing UCONN's team chemistry with Ryan out and this is the time to build the team right now for March.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/24/opinio...ght&st=cse

The NY Times opinion article from Jan 23rd follows up with this matter. It's pretty clear that the NCAA is coming down hard on this family, ultimately hurting UConn (is that the whole purpose? seems likely that this IS where the NCAA is going). After all, this parent has admitted her guilt on the airplane tickets and Ryan has been appropriately punished for the infraction. Now it is getting ridiculous. I am totally in favor of the NCAA policies of families not receiving benefits and it appears that this student and his mother have paid the price. Now it is becoming vengeful and I believe it is about Calhoun & UConn, not Ryan or his mom.
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(01-25-2012 03:15 PM)HuskyFan1964 Wrote:  
(01-22-2012 05:37 PM)SF Husky Wrote:  
(01-22-2012 05:18 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  Anything that comes from outside the family should be considered suspect, Husky. If the Boatright's were smart, and wanted to cover all their bases, they'd have inquired about anything that might be considered, whether they believed it was a problem or not, just to be on the safe side. That's what a full investigation is supposed to do in the first place...

Anyone expecting an investigation should make the info as easy as possible for them to find, so the investigation concludes in your favor as quickly as possible. It's common sense - unless you have something to hide...

The whole thing got nothing to do with UCONN and UCONN is being punished big time for it. The 3 games UCONN lost (UCF, Cincy and Tenn) would be Ws with Ryan. I have little doubt about that.

The whole thing is literally a joke. NYT will have another article out on it on Tuesday per the author above. We will find out more. One way or another I just want to see the situation end so UCONN and Ryan can move on. It is killing UCONN's team chemistry with Ryan out and this is the time to build the team right now for March.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/24/opinio...ght&st=cse

The NY Times opinion article from Jan 23rd follows up with this matter. It's pretty clear that the NCAA is coming down hard on this family, ultimately hurting UConn (is that the whole purpose? seems likely that this IS where the NCAA is going). After all, this parent has admitted her guilt on the airplane tickets and Ryan has been appropriately punished for the infraction. Now it is getting ridiculous. I am totally in favor of the NCAA policies of families not receiving benefits and it appears that this student and his mother have paid the price. Now it is becoming vengeful and I believe it is about Calhoun & UConn, not Ryan or his mom.

Do you think its because the NCAA had just put UCONN on probation for numerous NCAA violations last April...and now this "incident" came up so maybe the NCAA is trying to send a message to UCONN and everyone else?
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(01-25-2012 03:22 PM)KnightLight Wrote:  
(01-25-2012 03:15 PM)HuskyFan1964 Wrote:  
(01-22-2012 05:37 PM)SF Husky Wrote:  
(01-22-2012 05:18 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  Anything that comes from outside the family should be considered suspect, Husky. If the Boatright's were smart, and wanted to cover all their bases, they'd have inquired about anything that might be considered, whether they believed it was a problem or not, just to be on the safe side. That's what a full investigation is supposed to do in the first place...

Anyone expecting an investigation should make the info as easy as possible for them to find, so the investigation concludes in your favor as quickly as possible. It's common sense - unless you have something to hide...

The whole thing got nothing to do with UCONN and UCONN is being punished big time for it. The 3 games UCONN lost (UCF, Cincy and Tenn) would be Ws with Ryan. I have little doubt about that.

The whole thing is literally a joke. NYT will have another article out on it on Tuesday per the author above. We will find out more. One way or another I just want to see the situation end so UCONN and Ryan can move on. It is killing UCONN's team chemistry with Ryan out and this is the time to build the team right now for March.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/24/opinio...ght&st=cse

The NY Times opinion article from Jan 23rd follows up with this matter. It's pretty clear that the NCAA is coming down hard on this family, ultimately hurting UConn (is that the whole purpose? seems likely that this IS where the NCAA is going). After all, this parent has admitted her guilt on the airplane tickets and Ryan has been appropriately punished for the infraction. Now it is getting ridiculous. I am totally in favor of the NCAA policies of families not receiving benefits and it appears that this student and his mother have paid the price. Now it is becoming vengeful and I believe it is about Calhoun & UConn, not Ryan or his mom.

Do you think its because the NCAA had just put UCONN on probation for numerous NCAA violations last April...and now this "incident" came up so maybe the NCAA is trying to send a message to UCONN and everyone else?

Yes, I do. I'm not minimizing any violation of NCAA rules, but I do think this has gone way beyond that. I think that the NCAA is annoyed that Calhoun & UConn have tried to circumvent some of the punishment that was given out this past year. It seems more than coincidental that this latest "situation" with Boatright has been handled with such a heavy hand.
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(01-25-2012 03:22 PM)KnightLight Wrote:  
(01-25-2012 03:15 PM)HuskyFan1964 Wrote:  
(01-22-2012 05:37 PM)SF Husky Wrote:  [quote='bitcruncher' pid='7456174' dateline='1327270694']
Anything that comes from outside the family should be considered suspect, Husky. If the Boatright's were smart, and wanted to cover all their bases, they'd have inquired about anything that might be considered, whether they believed it was a problem or not, just to be on the safe side. That's what a full investigation is supposed to do in the first place...

Anyone expecting an investigation should make the info as easy as possible for them to find, so the investigation concludes in your favor as quickly as possible. It's common sense - unless you have something to hide...

The whole thing got nothing to do with UCONN and UCONN is being punished big time for it. The 3 games UCONN lost (UCF, Cincy and Tenn) would be Ws with Ryan. I have little doubt about that.

The whole thing is literally a joke. NYT will have another article out on it on Tuesday per the author above. We will find out more. One way or another I just want to see the situation end so UCONN and Ryan can move on. It is killing UCONN's team chemistry with Ryan out and this is the time to build the team right now for March.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/24/opinio...ght&st=cse

The NY Times opinion article from Jan 23rd follows up with this matter. It's pretty clear that the NCAA is coming down hard on this family, ultimately hurting UConn (is that the whole purpose? seems likely that this IS where the NCAA is going). After all, this parent has admitted her guilt on the airplane tickets and Ryan has been appropriately punished for the infraction. Now it is getting ridiculous. I am totally in favor of the NCAA policies of families not receiving benefits and it appears that this student and his mother have paid the price. Now it is becoming vengeful and I believe it is about Calhoun & UConn, not Ryan or his mom.

Do you think its because the NCAA had just put UCONN on probation for numerous NCAA violations last April...and now this "incident" came up so maybe the NCAA is trying to send a message to UCONN and everyone else?

The 3 game suspension of Jim Calhoun this year was due staff infractions involved in recruiting Nate Miles who never attended UConn.
It was not a case of "numerous NCAA violations".
Additionally, UConn did not know about, had nothing to do with and had no control of whatever Ryan Boatright's family chose to do prior to attending UConn.
Soooooooo, "sending a message" is inappropriate and misplaced in this instance.
"Shining a spotlight" on the NCAA's gestapo tactics on Ryan Boatright's family is appropriate........... 05-nono
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NCAA president Emmert got turned down when he applied for the UCONN president job years ago, perhaps he is still holding the grudge. Meanwhile, we got Yancy Gates who did it full down knock out of Xavier player and he got less suspension than Boatright. I sure hope Boatright will see the court at some point soon.
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(01-25-2012 09:00 PM)SF Husky Wrote:  NCAA president Emmert got turned down when he applied for the UCONN president job years ago, perhaps he is still holding the grudge. Meanwhile, we got Yancy Gates who did it full down knock out of Xavier player and he got less suspension than Boatright. I sure hope Boatright will see the court at some point soon.

He actually got the longest suspension for fighting ever in college basketball. But I won't let that get in the way of a good rant.
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(01-26-2012 11:14 PM)Bearcat_Bounce Wrote:  
(01-25-2012 09:00 PM)SF Husky Wrote:  NCAA president Emmert got turned down when he applied for the UCONN president job years ago, perhaps he is still holding the grudge. Meanwhile, we got Yancy Gates who did it full down knock out of Xavier player and he got less suspension than Boatright. I sure hope Boatright will see the court at some point soon.

He actually got the longest suspension for fighting ever in college basketball. But I won't let that get in the way of a good rant.

Here is the issue: Cam Newton's dad accepted like $100K and Auburn and Newton got nothing from the NCAA. Boatright's mom took a plane ticket from a friend without Boatright know about it and he has to sit out forever? Where is the fairness in this?

Another take on the NCAA situation from NYT:

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/28/opinio....html?_r=3
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Just got news Ryan Boatright will be reinstated without any penalty. This of course after it cost UCONN 2 games it should have won. Thanks NCAA.

http://blog.ctnews.com/uconnbasketball/2...-instated/
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No excuses, dude...
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Boatright played today. I wonder what the excuse is now.
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(01-29-2012 10:32 PM)CollegeCard Wrote:  Boatright played today. I wonder what the excuse is now.

No one is making any excuses. Moving an important player in and out of lineup is never good for chemistry. UCONN is obviously in some kind of slump right down considering we lost to a team we beat easily a few weeks earlier. Brey did a good job slowing the game way down.

Anyway, I am not concerned about UCONN right now. Calhoun will do what he normally does and get the team ready for March. There is a method to his madness and the coach has done it multiple times so this team will be no different.

Frankly, I really don't care about record now. If UCONN is still playing like this by late Feb/early March, then I will be concerned.
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