(01-22-2012 02:53 PM)mlb Wrote:  

(01-21-2012 06:58 PM)Murph29 Wrote:  I have a hard time so much as raising n eyebrow over this video when the fanatical loons we are fighting there don't raise an eyebrow when they cut off the heads of live screaming prisoners with dull blades.

That is fine, but also don't get upset when the enemy does the same. It is hard to be appalled when our own soldiers are doing the same kinds of things.

This enemy does far worse. Yet our idiot VP comments that the Taliban really aren't our enemy. Hope he tells that to some of our guys who have fought these fanatics for two, three and four tours. So forgive me if I'm not ready to call for blood because a few of our guys did something stupid. Pissing on a dead enemy vs cutting off heads, stoning women to death, mutilating people in stadiums...I think on a continuum of horrendous acts the dead Taliban pissing seems a far cry from what this enemy does as a standard practice.

Quote:This enemy does far worse. Yet our idiot VP comments that the Taliban really aren't our enemy. Hope he tells that to some of our guys who have fought these fanatics for two, three and four tours. So forgive me if I'm not ready to call for blood because a few of our guys did something stupid. Pissing on a dead enemy vs cutting off heads, stoning women to death, mutilating people in stadiums...I think on a continuum of horrendous acts the dead Taliban pissing seems a far cry from what this enemy does as a standard practice.

Call for blood? I haven't really heard anyone in the media do anything of the sort. However, condemning what the soldiers did is not over the top and should be expected. Some sort of punishment is certainly deserved, even if the enemy is doing worse things. That simple.

As far as what Biden said, I didn't hear or see the quote. That being said, I'm sure it was a political statement for some behind the scenes manuvering. You can't take anything said by any politician as believable, IMO.

(01-12-2012 02:03 PM)ctipton Wrote:  You have a group of jarheads, who were attacked and were trying to be KILLED by the miscreants. After the inability of the miscreants to KILL the jarheads, and with the adrenaline still pouring, the nasty old jarheads took a piss on the people who tried to KILL them, but now the jarheads are to be punished for doing what any other animal in the wild would do? They tried to KILL you, you KILLed them instead. Phuque 'em.

Those "miscreants" are fighting off an invasion, from the opposite perspective, those jarheads are the miscreants. Those who die in war are heros, we ought not be self righteous asshats, sitting behind keyboards and our anonymity mocking them. I'm doubtful you'll be dodging any bullets for your people today, who are you then to criticize someone you know little to nothing about? Pretentious small d*** syndrome running rampant.

(01-23-2012 05:19 PM)Butterfly Wrote:  

(01-12-2012 02:03 PM)ctipton Wrote:  You have a group of jarheads, who were attacked and were trying to be KILLED by the miscreants. After the inability of the miscreants to KILL the jarheads, and with the adrenaline still pouring, the nasty old jarheads took a piss on the people who tried to KILL them, but now the jarheads are to be punished for doing what any other animal in the wild would do? They tried to KILL you, you KILLed them instead. Phuque 'em.

Those "miscreants" are fighting off an invasion, from the opposite perspective, those jarheads are the miscreants. Those who die in war are heros, we ought not be self righteous asshats, sitting behind keyboards and our anonymity mocking them. I'm doubtful you'll be dodging any bullets for your people today, who are you then to criticize someone you know little to nothing about? Pretentious small d*** syndrome running rampant.

You are 100% completely out of touch. I did 20 years in the Army and 2 tours in Viet Nam doing exactly what these marines are doing. My dick might be small, but there is absolutely no pretentious syndrome present. I highly suggest you take what little combat experience you have and shove it up your sanctimonious ass.

(01-23-2012 05:39 PM)ctipton Wrote:  You are 100% completely out of touch. I did 20 years in the Army and 2 tours in Viet Nam doing exactly what these marines are doing.

I see, and those people you were up against, do you ever question why they didn't just welcome you with open arms? Why they took up the fight against you? Why, in spite of the fact that you had absolutely no business in southeast asia, why you're in some way seen as heroic, but they shouldn't be? I guess what I'm really getting at, is aside from the nationalistic, likely racist stance of you vs them, why are they any different from you? ...


Regardless of your service, you don't know these men. You have no business telling them or their families that their corpses should be defiled, and you should feel like **** for having said that.
Personally, you can go screw.
The worst kind of human beings are the psychotic, as they lack the very empathy that makes a person a person.
It's a shame eugenics can't be used to rid us of such folk...

******* amazing. You truly are a butterfly.

(01-23-2012 05:19 PM)Butterfly Wrote:  Those who die in war are heros, we ought not be self righteous asshats, sitting behind keyboards and our anonymity mocking them. I'm doubtful you'll be dodging any bullets for your people today, who are you then to criticize someone you know little to nothing about? Pretentious small d*** syndrome running rampant.

Uh you picked the wrong person to be directing this too. While it may apply to yourself it certainly doesn't apply to a combat veteran like Chris and I think I will take his perspective (that of an experienced soldier) over some moral relativist bullsh@t perspective any day of the week.

And its not really about one man's terrorist being another man's freedoms fighter, if you want to in any way equate true Taliban practices to the general behavior of our society and soldiers you really are deluded. Again, pissing on corpses is wrong but I don't recall us enemies of the Taliban cutting off living heads, stoning women, engaging in honor killings, etc.