(01-10-2012 01:29 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(01-10-2012 11:11 AM)bitcruncher Wrote:  I still would like to see how the 1989 Fiesta Bowl would have turned out had Major Harris' shoulder not gotten separated on the 3rd offensive play for WVU - on a late hit out of bounds...

Notre Dame was far more talented and better coached than WVU. You had no chance.

Not so sure about "far" and they did have a chance up to the end, even with an injured Harris.

(01-10-2012 06:08 PM)Tigeer Wrote:  

(01-10-2012 01:29 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(01-10-2012 11:11 AM)bitcruncher Wrote:  I still would like to see how the 1989 Fiesta Bowl would have turned out had Major Harris' shoulder not gotten separated on the 3rd offensive play for WVU - on a late hit out of bounds...

Notre Dame was far more talented and better coached than WVU. You had no chance.

Not so sure about "far" and they did have a chance up to the end, even with an injured Harris.

Yup that was a real good team---if he didn't get injured WVU might have won. It was much better than their 93 team.

(01-10-2012 11:46 AM)TexanMark Wrote:  

(01-10-2012 11:03 AM)billyjack Wrote:  

(01-09-2012 09:28 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  The BEast didn't give WVU diddly, Husky. WVU played for the National Championship 3 years before BEast football ever started play...

Of course, it doesn't surprise me at all that you don't know this, or conveniently ignored it...

To put this in perspective though, the best teams that year (1988) were Notre Dame, Miami, Southern Cal and Michigan. The Irish beat each of them.
Miami had one loss, to the Irish.
Michigan had two losses, to Notre Dame and Miami.
Southern Cal had two losses, to Notre Dame and Michigan.
These 4 teams beat each other up.
Also, Florida State had one loss, to Miami.
This might've been Jimmy Johnson's last year in Miami.

After the regular season, West Virginia was the only viable undefeated team besides the Irish, so they played them in the Fiesta. Not sure WVa beat a ranked team that year? [EDIT: college football didn't have rematches back then, unlike this year... ]

WVU beat a very good ranked Cuse team in '88

Too lazy to see if Penn State was ranked that season.

Notre Dame crushed Penn State that year too.

Comparing the 2 games against Penn State, WVU had the better game. The game was over at halftime, and Nehlen emptied the bench in the 2nd half. That's the only reason Penn State scored as much as they did in that game...

(01-10-2012 01:40 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  Steve, that's another ridiculous statement. WVU lost by 12, and Major Harris played the entire game with a separated shoulder...

Your statement is far more ridiculous. Notre dame won by 13 and it was only that 'close' because ND permitted WVU a garbage time TD. ND led 16-0 before WVU got a first down, led 23-6 at half, and 34-13 until the garbage time TD.

ND dominated the whole game, it was never in doubt. As for Harris, his injury reflected the ND dominance, as a good defense will hit the other teams star players hard and knock them out. WVU was the fourth best team ND played that year.

(01-10-2012 08:52 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  Comparing the 2 games against Penn State, WVU had the better game. The game was over at halftime, and Nehlen emptied the bench in the 2nd half. That's the only reason Penn State scored as much as they did in that game...

Notre Dame beat 4 teams ranked in the final AP top 10 that year. WVUs schedule was nothing like that.

So good defenses tackle guys out of bounds to injure them? Kind of like how LSU did the same to Noel Devine last year on a late hit out of bounds, which basically ruined his season, and any chance at the NFL...

If dirty play, like late hits out of bounds, is how good defenses play, I wish I was a DC against your team...

(01-10-2012 08:57 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  So good defenses tackle guys out of bounds to injure them?

Was Notre Dame flagged on the play? In any event, it was an easy win for the irish, never in doubt.

I don't have time to argue bullsh!t like this with you today. Your nitpicking is wearing on my patience today. I've got far better things to occupy my mind. So screw this...