Trailing by 1 , Marcus Hooten knocks one down with under 5 seconds to go to give stAte the win.

Warhawks got a decent shot off at the buzzer, but it stuck between the backboard in the rim. Never seen a game end with the ball wedged like that.

We suck this year. Brady is doing the worst coaching job he has ever done.

Yeah this isnt Brady's best work. He'll get a pass this year if he can solve the APR mess, but next year is put up or shut up. And im not talking about just winning the division, Im talking about fielding a team that can be competitive in nonconference as well.

We had 9 turnovers tonight, 1 in the 2nd half.

I'd say that is dramatic improvement and can be attributed to good coaching.


Why do you guys think Brady is doing a poor job coaching? Recruiting I can see - but coaching?

He changed the offense after the season started since Adams got kicked off the team, and that seems to have helped.

(12-31-2011 08:06 PM)WinstonTheWolf Wrote:  We had 9 turnovers tonight, 1 in the 2nd half.

I'd say that is dramatic improvement and can be attributed to good coaching.


Why do you guys think Brady is doing a poor job coaching? Recruiting I can see - but coaching?

He changed the offense after the season started since Adams got kicked off the team, and that seems to have helped.

Lackluster attendance, consistent player problems, and the inability to play with other nonconference mid major programs

Not to mention he still has yet to recruit a quality guard to ASU.

(12-31-2011 08:30 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(12-31-2011 08:06 PM)WinstonTheWolf Wrote:  We had 9 turnovers tonight, 1 in the 2nd half.

I'd say that is dramatic improvement and can be attributed to good coaching.


Why do you guys think Brady is doing a poor job coaching? Recruiting I can see - but coaching?

He changed the offense after the season started since Adams got kicked off the team, and that seems to have helped.

Lackluster attendance, consistent player problems, and the inability to play with other nonconference mid major programs

Not to mention he still has yet to recruit a quality guard to ASU.

holy cow....i could copy and paste that for mcdummy on the hilltoppah board.

(12-31-2011 08:30 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(12-31-2011 08:06 PM)WinstonTheWolf Wrote:  We had 9 turnovers tonight, 1 in the 2nd half.

I'd say that is dramatic improvement and can be attributed to good coaching.


Why do you guys think Brady is doing a poor job coaching? Recruiting I can see - but coaching?

He changed the offense after the season started since Adams got kicked off the team, and that seems to have helped.

Lackluster attendance, consistent player problems, and the inability to play with other nonconference mid major programs

Not to mention he still has yet to recruit a quality guard to ASU.

I don't necessarily disagree with any of that - but it has nothing to do with the "coaching" job he is doing this year (as opposed to prior years).

BTW - who recruited Brandon Reed?

(12-31-2011 09:35 PM)WinstonTheWolf Wrote:  BTW - who recruited Brandon Reed?

Paul Hewitt?

(12-31-2011 09:46 PM)thetastygreek Wrote:  

(12-31-2011 09:35 PM)WinstonTheWolf Wrote:  BTW - who recruited Brandon Reed?

Paul Hewitt?

LOL - and where did that get him?

(12-31-2011 10:10 PM)WinstonTheWolf Wrote:  

(12-31-2011 09:46 PM)thetastygreek Wrote:  

(12-31-2011 09:35 PM)WinstonTheWolf Wrote:  BTW - who recruited Brandon Reed?

Paul Hewitt?

LOL - and where did that get him?

To George Mason, on the losing end of games against FAU and FIU.

Moral of the story: Don't steal from the Sun Belt.

(12-31-2011 09:35 PM)WinstonTheWolf Wrote:  

(12-31-2011 08:30 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(12-31-2011 08:06 PM)WinstonTheWolf Wrote:  We had 9 turnovers tonight, 1 in the 2nd half.

I'd say that is dramatic improvement and can be attributed to good coaching.


Why do you guys think Brady is doing a poor job coaching? Recruiting I can see - but coaching?

He changed the offense after the season started since Adams got kicked off the team, and that seems to have helped.

Lackluster attendance, consistent player problems, and the inability to play with other nonconference mid major programs

Not to mention he still has yet to recruit a quality guard to ASU.

I don't necessarily disagree with any of that - but it has nothing to do with the "coaching" job he is doing this year (as opposed to prior years).

BTW - who recruited Brandon Reed?

Chad Dollar?

and who does he play for again?

Reed said a lot of things about Brady during that mess...we dismissed it as a primadonna trying to get attention, but there might have been something to all that

(12-31-2011 08:30 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(12-31-2011 08:06 PM)WinstonTheWolf Wrote:  We had 9 turnovers tonight, 1 in the 2nd half.

I'd say that is dramatic improvement and can be attributed to good coaching.


Why do you guys think Brady is doing a poor job coaching? Recruiting I can see - but coaching?

He changed the offense after the season started since Adams got kicked off the team, and that seems to have helped.

Lackluster attendance, consistent player problems, and the inability to play with other nonconference mid major programs

Not to mention he still has yet to recruit a quality guard to ASU.

I think he has recruited a quality guard, maybe two. Problem is others keep recruiting them after he signed them.

(12-31-2011 11:45 PM)Seminole Indian Wrote:  

(12-31-2011 08:30 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(12-31-2011 08:06 PM)WinstonTheWolf Wrote:  We had 9 turnovers tonight, 1 in the 2nd half.

I'd say that is dramatic improvement and can be attributed to good coaching.


Why do you guys think Brady is doing a poor job coaching? Recruiting I can see - but coaching?

He changed the offense after the season started since Adams got kicked off the team, and that seems to have helped.

Lackluster attendance, consistent player problems, and the inability to play with other nonconference mid major programs

Not to mention he still has yet to recruit a quality guard to ASU.

I think he has recruited a quality guard, maybe two. Problem is others keep recruiting them after he signed them.

That falls on the coach if he can't keep a player. It has nothing to do with ASU. Freeze proved that you can recruit against the big boys and win. Now Malzahn will do the same. Brady has a final four ring to show his recruits and still can't put a team together.

(01-01-2012 12:09 AM)statefanatic Wrote:  

(12-31-2011 11:45 PM)Seminole Indian Wrote:  

(12-31-2011 08:30 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(12-31-2011 08:06 PM)WinstonTheWolf Wrote:  We had 9 turnovers tonight, 1 in the 2nd half.

I'd say that is dramatic improvement and can be attributed to good coaching.


Why do you guys think Brady is doing a poor job coaching? Recruiting I can see - but coaching?

He changed the offense after the season started since Adams got kicked off the team, and that seems to have helped.

Lackluster attendance, consistent player problems, and the inability to play with other nonconference mid major programs

Not to mention he still has yet to recruit a quality guard to ASU.

I think he has recruited a quality guard, maybe two. Problem is others keep recruiting them after he signed them.

That falls on the coach if he can't keep a player. It has nothing to do with ASU. Freeze proved that you can recruit against the big boys and win. Now Malzahn will do the same. Brady has a final four ring to show his recruits and still can't put a team together.

Not many of Feezes recruits played this season, although the ones that did looked very good. Freeze did not lose any key players either. Another plus is Roberts left Freeze with a solid group of players to work with and Im not sure that was the case for Brady.

Probably only a freak injury to their best guard keep ASU out of the NCAA last year. As for this team, lets see where they end up.

(12-31-2011 10:31 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(12-31-2011 09:35 PM)WinstonTheWolf Wrote:  

(12-31-2011 08:30 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(12-31-2011 08:06 PM)WinstonTheWolf Wrote:  We had 9 turnovers tonight, 1 in the 2nd half.

I'd say that is dramatic improvement and can be attributed to good coaching.


Why do you guys think Brady is doing a poor job coaching? Recruiting I can see - but coaching?

He changed the offense after the season started since Adams got kicked off the team, and that seems to have helped.

Lackluster attendance, consistent player problems, and the inability to play with other nonconference mid major programs

Not to mention he still has yet to recruit a quality guard to ASU.

I don't necessarily disagree with any of that - but it has nothing to do with the "coaching" job he is doing this year (as opposed to prior years).

BTW - who recruited Brandon Reed?

Chad Dollar?

and who does he play for again?

Reed said a lot of things about Brady during that mess...we dismissed it as a primadonna trying to get attention, but there might have been something to all that

So we both agree that you were dead wrong on your assertion that Brady never recruited a quality guard to ASU.

And we agree that Brady has had problems keeping quality players on campus through graduation . . .

(01-01-2012 12:22 AM)Seminole Indian Wrote:  

(01-01-2012 12:09 AM)statefanatic Wrote:  

(12-31-2011 11:45 PM)Seminole Indian Wrote:  

(12-31-2011 08:30 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(12-31-2011 08:06 PM)WinstonTheWolf Wrote:  We had 9 turnovers tonight, 1 in the 2nd half.

I'd say that is dramatic improvement and can be attributed to good coaching.


Why do you guys think Brady is doing a poor job coaching? Recruiting I can see - but coaching?

He changed the offense after the season started since Adams got kicked off the team, and that seems to have helped.

Lackluster attendance, consistent player problems, and the inability to play with other nonconference mid major programs

Not to mention he still has yet to recruit a quality guard to ASU.

I think he has recruited a quality guard, maybe two. Problem is others keep recruiting them after he signed them.

That falls on the coach if he can't keep a player. It has nothing to do with ASU. Freeze proved that you can recruit against the big boys and win. Now Malzahn will do the same. Brady has a final four ring to show his recruits and still can't put a team together.

Not many of Feezes recruits played this season, although the ones that did looked very good. Freeze did not lose any key players either. Another plus is Roberts left Freeze with a solid group of players to work with and Im not sure that was the case for Brady.

Probably only a freak injury to their best guard keep ASU out of the NCAA last year. As for this team, lets see where they end up.

All the players on the basketball team are Brady's recruits except Finn. That being said. None of Brady's players on the team right now are any better than what Nutt left him with. Nutts players actually played better under Brady than the players brady has recruited.

(01-01-2012 12:37 AM)WinstonTheWolf Wrote:  

(12-31-2011 10:31 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(12-31-2011 09:35 PM)WinstonTheWolf Wrote:  

(12-31-2011 08:30 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(12-31-2011 08:06 PM)WinstonTheWolf Wrote:  We had 9 turnovers tonight, 1 in the 2nd half.

I'd say that is dramatic improvement and can be attributed to good coaching.


Why do you guys think Brady is doing a poor job coaching? Recruiting I can see - but coaching?

He changed the offense after the season started since Adams got kicked off the team, and that seems to have helped.

Lackluster attendance, consistent player problems, and the inability to play with other nonconference mid major programs

Not to mention he still has yet to recruit a quality guard to ASU.

I don't necessarily disagree with any of that - but it has nothing to do with the "coaching" job he is doing this year (as opposed to prior years).

BTW - who recruited Brandon Reed?

Chad Dollar?

and who does he play for again?

Reed said a lot of things about Brady during that mess...we dismissed it as a primadonna trying to get attention, but there might have been something to all that

So we both agree that you were dead wrong on your assertion that Brady never recruited a quality guard to ASU.

And we agree that Brady has had problems keeping quality players on campus through graduation . . .

Im not sure you understand. Reed signed with ASU because of Chad Dollar, it had very little to do with Brady. When Dollar left, Reed left, and Brady and Reed then engaged in a war of words in the media.

I give Brady very little credit for signing Brandon Reed.

When simply talking about coaching ability (leaving PR, recruiting, etc out of it), there are three, maybe four good coaches in this league.

John Brady is one of them.

Be careful what you wish for, ASU fans.

(01-01-2012 10:30 AM)BirdofParadise Wrote:  When simply talking about coaching ability (leaving PR, recruiting, etc out of it), there are three, maybe four good coaches in this league.

John Brady is one of them.

Be careful what you wish for, ASU fans.

Exactly.

ASU has some morons for fans.

(01-01-2012 10:30 AM)BirdofParadise Wrote:  When simply talking about coaching ability (leaving PR, recruiting, etc out of it), there are three, maybe four good coaches in this league.

John Brady is one of them.

Be careful what you wish for, ASU fans.

BOP, lets start 2012 off with a bang!! Who are the other 3 good coaches in the league, sir!!

Besides Marlin and Brady... Dont leave me hangin' son!!

Happy New Year!!

Z