(12-22-2011 07:33 PM)Lonestar Lizard Wrote:  

(12-22-2011 01:28 PM)Howl-n-Prowl Wrote:  Big 12 Conference

WEST
- Texas Longhorns
- Texas Tech Red Raiders
- Kansas Jayhawks
- Kansas State Wildcats
- Baylor Bears
- TCU Horned Frogs

EAST
- Oklahoma Sooners
- Oklahoma State Cowboys
- Louisville Cardinals
- Iowa State Cyclones
- Northern Illinois Huskies
- West Virginia Mountaineers

I found this here.

EDIT: To bitcruncher, I awoke refreshed. That was a much needed nap, thanks.

Wow, these divisions are such a great idea!

Scream if from the Mountain tops 'lil Froggie!

I agree with him, Howl. IMO the divisions would be better served by breaking up teams from the same state...

EAST
- Baylor Bears
- Kansas Jayhawks
- Oklahoma Sooners
- Louisville Cardinals
- Texas Tech Red Raiders
- West Virginia Mountaineers

WEST
- Cincinnati Bearcats/Rutgers Scarlet Knights (BYU or NIU ain't cuttin' it)
- Iowa State Cyclones
- Kansas State Wildcats
- Oklahoma State Cowboys
- Texas Longhorns
- TCU Horned Frogs

(12-23-2011 10:04 AM)bitcruncher Wrote:  I agree with him, Howl. IMO the divisions would be better served by breaking up teams from the same state...

EAST
- Baylor Bears
- Kansas Jayhawks
- Oklahoma Sooners
- Louisville Cardinals
- Texas Tech Red Raiders
- West Virginia Mountaineers

WEST
- Cincinnati Bearcats/Rutgers Scarlet Knights (BYU or NIU ain't cuttin' it)
- Iowa State Cyclones
- Kansas State Wildcats
- Oklahoma State Cowboys
- Texas Longhorns
- TCU Horned Frogs

OU and OSU must also play every year

OU , OSU, TCU, KSU, KU, Baylor

Tex, TTech, WV , ISU , UL , BYU

Perm Yearly games in order,
all teams at least 2 games in Texas every year for recruiting

Cross division rivalries isn't a problem with a 9 game conference schedule. So I see no issues...

(12-23-2011 10:04 AM)bitcruncher Wrote:  I agree with him, Howl. IMO the divisions would be better served by breaking up teams from the same state...

EAST
- Baylor Bears
- Kansas Jayhawks
- Oklahoma Sooners
- Louisville Cardinals
- Texas Tech Red Raiders
- West Virginia Mountaineers

WEST
- Cincinnati Bearcats/Rutgers Scarlet Knights (BYU or NIU ain't cuttin' it)
- Iowa State Cyclones
- Kansas State Wildcats
- Oklahoma State Cowboys
- Texas Longhorns
- TCU Horned Frogs

Why don't you like BYU?

(12-21-2011 06:05 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  What wrong with putting the Sooners and Longhorns in separate divisions, and still matching them up every season. The SEC has permanent cross division rivalries. Why can't the Big XII?

The question would be if they want to potential meet twice in the same season - the regular season and potentially the championship game.

(12-25-2011 10:21 PM)OrangeCrush22 Wrote:  

(12-23-2011 10:04 AM)bitcruncher Wrote:  I agree with him, Howl. IMO the divisions would be better served by breaking up teams from the same state...

EAST
- Baylor Bears
- Kansas Jayhawks
- Oklahoma Sooners
- Louisville Cardinals
- Texas Tech Red Raiders
- West Virginia Mountaineers

WEST
- Cincinnati Bearcats/Rutgers Scarlet Knights (BYU or NIU ain't cuttin' it)
- Iowa State Cyclones
- Kansas State Wildcats
- Oklahoma State Cowboys
- Texas Longhorns
- TCU Horned Frogs

Why don't you like BYU?

Texas will not agree to anything if it does not involve playing OU and TT every year. Likewise OU with OSU, Texas, and KU and KSU , and KSU and ISU they will not allow these conf games to stop.

(12-25-2011 10:21 PM)OrangeCrush22 Wrote:  

(12-23-2011 10:04 AM)bitcruncher Wrote:  I agree with him, Howl. IMO the divisions would be better served by breaking up teams from the same state...

EAST
- Baylor Bears
- Kansas Jayhawks
- Oklahoma Sooners
- Louisville Cardinals
- Texas Tech Red Raiders
- West Virginia Mountaineers

WEST
- Cincinnati Bearcats/Rutgers Scarlet Knights (BYU or NIU ain't cuttin' it)
- Iowa State Cyclones
- Kansas State Wildcats
- Oklahoma State Cowboys
- Texas Longhorns
- TCU Horned Frogs

Why don't you like BYU?

I don't think about BYU one way or the other. I just don't think they fit in the Big XII. Texas has the big ego, and BYU wants to dictate. They'll never be able to dictate to Texas, which means BYU won't be invited...

As for the Bull's comment, it's amazing how many Big XII experts there are in The BEast, now that WVU has decided to switch their allegience...

If we go to 12 the best way to due it would spit TX/OU will happen is the ???? but here my break down..

Oklahoma - TX
Oklahoma st. - Texas Tech
TCU - Baylor
Louisville - West Virgina
Kansas St. - Kansas
Cinn./BYU/Boise/??? - Iowa St.

Texas - OU
Texas Tech - OSU
Baylor - TCU
West Virginia - Villie
Kansas - Kansas st.
Iowa St. - Cinn./BYU/Boise/???

(12-26-2011 09:23 AM)big bad bull 30 Wrote:  Texas will not agree to anything if it does not involve playing OU and TT every year. Likewise OU with OSU, Texas, and KU and KSU , and KSU and ISU they will not allow these conf games to stop.

The schedule I posted takes all that into consideration.

Sure, you don't have to like NIU as the 12th, but replace them with your 12th candidate and the scheduling works. Plus the divisions would be competitively balanced and allow for a Texas/Oklahoma Title game, which the TV networks (and the folks at Texas & Oklahoma) would love.

I provided a link to where I found the suggestion and it further explains the scheduling there. Basically, one permanent cross-divisional game. I copied/pasted from the website so I think as listed below, Texas would play Oklahoma, etc., etc.

(12-22-2011 01:28 PM)Howl-n-Prowl Wrote:  Big 12 Conference

WEST
- Texas Longhorns
- Texas Tech Red Raiders
- Kansas Jayhawks
- Kansas State Wildcats
- Baylor Bears
- TCU Horned Frogs

EAST
- Oklahoma Sooners
- Oklahoma State Cowboys
- Louisville Cardinals
- Iowa State Cyclones
- Northern Illinois Huskies
- West Virginia Mountaineers

I found this here.

"I don't think about BYU one way or the other. I just don't think they fit in the Big XII. Texas has the big ego, and BYU wants to dictate. They'll never be able to dictate to Texas, which means BYU won't be invited"

I agree about BYU. The MWC was built (more or less) by them and for them. They signed off on every thing about that conference then when Utah got the nod for the PAC all of a sudden there wasn't anything good about the MWC at all. They hated everything about it. They hated the other schools that them and Utah had hand picked to be in it with them. They hated the Mountain TV Channel that they had been so gung-ho about creating in the first place. They hated that the conference would not bend the rules for them alone concerning tv rights, rules that they themselves helped to write. They hated the MWC so much that they snuck around and backhandedly tried to sabotage the conference by conspiring with the WAC again.

Of course, none of this should have surprised anyone. BYU pulled this same act after supporting the WAC expansion to 16 then deciding to take their group of 8 to go play elsewhere.

BYU is a fine university with some very super nice folks associated with it. They also need to play alone!