Just a quick google search for RE shows that he may be a candidate for the Illinois job or the ASU job. Do you think RE would get serious consideration or would leave EMU?

(11-28-2011 01:07 PM)EMUDirtyBird Wrote:  Just a quick google search for RE shows that he may be a candidate for the Illinois job or the ASU job. Do you think RE would get serious consideration or would leave EMU?

The AD's have to justify their hire to the fans of their school. It would be hard for an AD to explain why he/she hired RE - a coach with only 3 years HC experience at a non-BCS school with an overall record of 8-28. No championships, no bowl games, etc. It would be a hard sell.

This is why I don't think RE is going anywhere, at least not yet.

How about Turner Gill, ex Nebraska QB, Ex Buffalo Coach who was just let go by Kansas. Grass isn't always greener on the other side.

While anything can happen in today's college football universe, my answer is I don't think so not at least for those Div I jobs. What I do in a case like that is look at Zook's credentials when he got hired and compare to RE's today and say okay why would I settle for a candidate with less credentials? Also RE does RE have any ties or connections to either of these schools? I also agree with Wooden 8-28 with two of those wins coming against FCS schools isn't a real selling point with alums or administration.

RE's day will come I just don't think its this year.

Also look at there were 15 other coaches who would make more since then Coach English. There are also some out there who are in the play booth or on Announcing for espn who I would think they would call before English. Just my thoughts

I lived in Iowa for the last 8 years. Iowa State's head coach, Gene Chizik had a horrendous head coaching record at ISU. Like EMU, ISU is widely regarded as a place where you cannot win. Still, Auburn hiring Chizik caused quite a commotion but he was D-coordinator for Texas and Auburn previous to his first HC job.

English was D-coordinator at Michigan and Louisville, not quite the same as Auburn and Texas but I think he'll get some interviews. His mentor, Bruce Snyder was a longtime HC at Arizona State, so he has a connection there. Still, I don't think any A.D.s want to take the heat for hiring English with that overall record. Next year, if Eastern has a good season, he'll be way more viable. I hope he waits and doesn't take an Alabama-Birmingham-type job.

(11-28-2011 02:51 PM)Bob Wickersham Wrote:  I lived in Iowa for the last 8 years. Iowa State's head coach, Gene Chizik had a horrendous head coaching record at ISU. Like EMU, ISU is widely regarded as a place where you cannot win. Still, Auburn hiring Chizik caused quite a commotion but he was D-coordinator for Texas and Auburn previous to his first HC job.

English was D-coordinator at Michigan and Louisville, not quite the same as Auburn and Texas but I think he'll get some interviews. His mentor, Bruce Snyder was a longtime HC at Arizona State, so he has a connection there. Still, I don't think any A.D.s want to take the heat for hiring English with that overall record. Next year, if Eastern has a good season, he'll be way more viable. I hope he waits and doesn't take an Alabama-Birmingham-type job.

Chizik lost at ISU with someone else's players, just as he won at Auburn with someone else's players. The best coaches can win with their own players or someone else's. We haven't seen what Chizek does with his own players.

I can't believe that someone would take a chance on English. Even in the MAC there are guys that have better resumes. The guys at Kent, Toledo and Ball State have all turned things around faster than Ron English.

English has done an okay job.

Do you guys remember Ron Cooper? He went 4-7 and 5-6 (5-4 MAC) at EMU, then went to Louisville where he proceeded to destroy the program.

The only buzz i've heard is on the ASU job.

Take record out of it, RE has an impressive coaching tree and he has learned from the best. Couple that with stops at high Division 1 schools, with some success and an apperant "turn around" here at EMU and I think thats the makings of a quality "prospect" of a coach.

ASU would be crazy to NOT at least interview the guy with the reasons i've already mentioned.

(11-28-2011 07:06 PM)ljmhurons Wrote:  

(11-28-2011 02:51 PM)Bob Wickersham Wrote:  I lived in Iowa for the last 8 years. Iowa State's head coach, Gene Chizik had a horrendous head coaching record at ISU. Like EMU, ISU is widely regarded as a place where you cannot win. Still, Auburn hiring Chizik caused quite a commotion but he was D-coordinator for Texas and Auburn previous to his first HC job.

English was D-coordinator at Michigan and Louisville, not quite the same as Auburn and Texas but I think he'll get some interviews. His mentor, Bruce Snyder was a longtime HC at Arizona State, so he has a connection there. Still, I don't think any A.D.s want to take the heat for hiring English with that overall record. Next year, if Eastern has a good season, he'll be way more viable. I hope he waits and doesn't take an Alabama-Birmingham-type job.

Chizik lost at ISU with someone else's players, just as he won at Auburn with someone else's players. The best coaches can win with their own players or someone else's. We haven't seen what Chizek does with his own players.

I can't believe that someone would take a chance on English. Even in the MAC there are guys that have better resumes. The guys at Kent, Toledo and Ball State have all turned things around faster than Ron English.

English has done an okay job.

Do you guys remember Ron Cooper? He went 4-7 and 5-6 (5-4 MAC) at EMU, then went to Louisville where he proceeded to destroy the program.

I agree, I think he would be a strong candidate at ASU. I know you can't look at his overall record, YOU know you can't look at his overall record, all knowledgeable sports fans know he's done a great job at EMU. Unfortunately for him, I think the casual fan would gripe and moan if he were to get hired right now and I don't think schools want to deal with that just yet.

That's great news for us because next season could be pretty special here.

Yes, RE has experience at ASU and out west but he doesn't seem to listed in the 'A' list group.

http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic...lists.html

(11-30-2011 09:39 AM)emu steve Wrote:  Yes, RE has experience at ASU and out west but he doesn't seem to listed in the 'A' list group.

http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic...lists.html

Great post! This shows that RE is on people's radar but how could you argue against Kevin Sumlin? Pretty impressive year for the Cougars. Chris Peterson is a pipe dream and I don't think they're going to go with Mike Leach, although that would be a huge hit with the fanbase.

(11-30-2011 12:18 PM)Bob Wickersham Wrote:  

(11-30-2011 09:39 AM)emu steve Wrote:  Yes, RE has experience at ASU and out west but he doesn't seem to listed in the 'A' list group.

http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic...lists.html

Great post! This shows that RE is on people's radar but how could you argue against Kevin Sumlin? Pretty impressive year for the Cougars. Chris Peterson is a pipe dream and I don't think they're going to go with Mike Leach, although that would be a huge hit with the fanbase.

I believe Kevin Sumlin will win the ASU job..

So if RE interviews for another job and he doesn't get it, which I would bet on, is he cutting his own throat? Now he's got a program that has turned the corner, but still hasn't had a winning record. Every recruit and recruit parent begins to question his devotion to the program and the recruit.

(11-30-2011 06:24 PM)ljmhurons Wrote:  So if RE interviews for another job and he doesn't get it, which I would bet on, is he cutting his own throat? Now he's got a program that has turned the corner, but still hasn't had a winning record. Every recruit and recruit parent begins to question his devotion to the program and the recruit.

Or, it could give him even more credibility. Look at Eastern's coach, he is in demand, he's recognized as a top coach. It would be wise to make sure Anderson is subtly viewed as the heir apparent.

(11-30-2011 07:25 PM)Bob Wickersham Wrote:  

(11-30-2011 06:24 PM)ljmhurons Wrote:  So if RE interviews for another job and he doesn't get it, which I would bet on, is he cutting his own throat? Now he's got a program that has turned the corner, but still hasn't had a winning record. Every recruit and recruit parent begins to question his devotion to the program and the recruit.

Or, it could give him even more credibility. Look at Eastern's coach, he is in demand, he's recognized as a top coach. It would be wise to make sure Anderson is subtly viewed as the heir apparent.

It gives him credibility if he turns down the interviews.
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If Anderson is a good as he appears to be, he's not going to wait for our head coaching job. No matter how you look at it, the head coach at EMU is a tough job.

I'm sure schools absolutely hate this (and the MAC is a victim too) but Sumlin (Houston) has been offered the ASU job, two days before UH plays for a possible BCS bowl bid. Ugh!

https://twitter.com/#!/DougHaller/status...5471345664

I remember what happened to Ball State with the Brady Hoke saga.

(12-01-2011 03:28 PM)emu steve Wrote:  I'm sure schools absolutely hate this (and the MAC is a victim too) but Sumlin (Houston) has been offered the ASU job, two days before UH plays for a possible BCS bowl bid. Ugh!

https://twitter.com/#!/DougHaller/status...5471345664

I remember what happened to Ball State with the Brady Hoke saga.

Good problem to have and any other cliche I can think of regarding being a victim of one's success. I hope ASU realizes Sumlin is not bringing his QB with him!