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(11-25-2011 11:43 PM)the_blazerman Wrote:  Beas at 5, Cam at 4, Ovie at 3, Swing at 2, Taylor or Tyler at 1

+100

Even though the production of Beas would be slim to none, it would benefit the team by allowing players to play their natural positions. This would allow the lineup to be much more versatile. This is also why O'brien would be a tremendous help. Having O'brien play 20-30 mins and produce (5-7pts and 5 reb) and having Beas contribute a solid 10 mins a game would put us in better position to execute offensively and defensively while also generating production from all positions.

This is why I blame the coaching staff. They are not working (effectively) with the talent that we have.

That would be a great line-up and having solid production from the bench in Purifoy, Williams, and Tyler

Imo, This team is not particularly good at any facet of the game right now. There's nothing that we can hang our hat on or claim to do well.

We get out rebounded. We shoot poor percentages from two, three, and from the free throw line. We play OK defense, but nowhere near the level we played D two years ago or even last year. We play at a snail's pace, which doesn't suit our personnel. This contributes to us having significantly less shots and possessions than our opponents. We turn the ball over at a high rate to teams that don't really press us (i.e., we aren't turning it over to fastest forty type teams, which I could understand). We get out hustled, and don't play with any heart. We have very little leadership and no point guard. We've had poor coaching thus far this season - we've given big time minutes to players whose numbers don't warrant big minutes and we run boring, vanilla, and predictable offensive sets. We average an astonishingly low number of assists. Yet again, we are vastly underachieving with a team that had preseason talent and expectations.

The outlook at this point in the season is very bleak. O'Brien, if ruled eligible, will certainly help some, but this team has a multitude of problems that a big man role player won't fix.

Like I said last year, the high water mark of the MD era was barely sneaking into an NCAA tournament where we promptly fell right on our faces. We will never be better than thoroughly mediocre with him as our coach (and mediocre is a standard that I can't confidently say that we meet at the moment.).

Keeping Beas on the bench is working effectively with the talent we have.

(11-25-2011 11:56 PM)Memphis Blazer Wrote:  Keeping Beas on the bench is working effectively with the talent we have.

Idiodic statement considering:

Cam is not a center he should really be playing the 4 or even the 3.
Ovie is not a true 4 he should be playing the 3.
Swing is not a 3, he should be playing the 2.
Purifoy should be playing the 2/3. Not the 4

and you forgot the most important part:

Beas is not a true basketball player.

(11-25-2011 11:56 PM)The Answer UAB Wrote:  Imo, This team is not particularly good at any facet of the game right now. There's nothing that we can hang our hat on or claim to do well.

Well, Cam is blocking shots well. Up to #7 all time with his three tonight.

(11-26-2011 12:22 AM)Memphis Blazer Wrote:  and you forgot the most important part:

Beas is not a true basketball player.

why does he have a scholarship?

Let's just be honest. Beas absolutely sucks. He does not need to be on the floor. Playing ASW and HH I can absolutely agree with, but Beas is and always will be a stiff.

(11-26-2011 12:26 AM)Memphis Blazer Wrote:  

(11-25-2011 11:56 PM)The Answer UAB Wrote:  Imo, This team is not particularly good at any facet of the game right now. There's nothing that we can hang our hat on or claim to do well.

Well, Cam is blocking shots well. Up to #7 all time with his three tonight.

Cam is one of our few bright spots this year.

(11-25-2011 10:21 PM)jthrashr Wrote:  

(11-25-2011 10:20 PM)blazers9911 Wrote:  

(11-25-2011 10:06 PM)UABFRENCHY Wrote:  Anybody predict a 1- 3 for the beginnings of the season

I think most reasonable people on this board assumed we would be hard pressed to win this game tonight.(even before the season) I knew Creighton was going to give us fits, especially since they had played and we hadn't, but I thought that one was about 50/50 since it was a home game. Obviously we expected to win the Troy game, and Murray State is a team we should beat at home. I was expecting us to be 3-1 or 2-2. Obviously it isn't the start we were looking for, but the good news is it is still very early in the season. Hopefully we can find a way to win vs. Kent State, VCU, or Florida on the road. O'Brien should help if we can get him soon because we really need some help on the glass.

Can he play point guard as well?

No, but as long as he has decent footwork and understands positioning, he can definitely help us on the defensive glass. We are giving up far too many offensive rebounds, and this coupled with our crappy offense is not a good combination. We obviously have numerous problems right now, and I agree PG is #1, but O'Brien can immediately help us get some rebounds. There is no quick help at PG right now.

(11-26-2011 02:19 AM)blazers9911 Wrote:  

(11-25-2011 10:21 PM)jthrashr Wrote:  

(11-25-2011 10:20 PM)blazers9911 Wrote:  

(11-25-2011 10:06 PM)UABFRENCHY Wrote:  Anybody predict a 1- 3 for the beginnings of the season

I think most reasonable people on this board assumed we would be hard pressed to win this game tonight.(even before the season) I knew Creighton was going to give us fits, especially since they had played and we hadn't, but I thought that one was about 50/50 since it was a home game. Obviously we expected to win the Troy game, and Murray State is a team we should beat at home. I was expecting us to be 3-1 or 2-2. Obviously it isn't the start we were looking for, but the good news is it is still very early in the season. Hopefully we can find a way to win vs. Kent State, VCU, or Florida on the road. O'Brien should help if we can get him soon because we really need some help on the glass.

Can he play point guard as well?

No, but as long as he has decent footwork and understands positioning, he can definitely help us on the defensive glass. We are giving up far too many offensive rebounds, and this coupled with our crappy offense is not a good combination. We obviously have numerous problems right now, and I agree PG is #1, but O'Brien can immediately help us get some rebounds. There is no quick help at PG right now.

again...at his previous school he averaged 6 rebounds per game (far less than cam or ovie this year) and had double digit rebound only 6 times (i believe) in 2 years...

hes not going to be a savior on the glass

(11-26-2011 11:13 AM)LairDweller Wrote:  

(11-26-2011 02:19 AM)blazers9911 Wrote:  

(11-25-2011 10:21 PM)jthrashr Wrote:  

(11-25-2011 10:20 PM)blazers9911 Wrote:  

(11-25-2011 10:06 PM)UABFRENCHY Wrote:  Anybody predict a 1- 3 for the beginnings of the season

I think most reasonable people on this board assumed we would be hard pressed to win this game tonight.(even before the season) I knew Creighton was going to give us fits, especially since they had played and we hadn't, but I thought that one was about 50/50 since it was a home game. Obviously we expected to win the Troy game, and Murray State is a team we should beat at home. I was expecting us to be 3-1 or 2-2. Obviously it isn't the start we were looking for, but the good news is it is still very early in the season. Hopefully we can find a way to win vs. Kent State, VCU, or Florida on the road. O'Brien should help if we can get him soon because we really need some help on the glass.

Can he play point guard as well?

No, but as long as he has decent footwork and understands positioning, he can definitely help us on the defensive glass. We are giving up far too many offensive rebounds, and this coupled with our crappy offense is not a good combination. We obviously have numerous problems right now, and I agree PG is #1, but O'Brien can immediately help us get some rebounds. There is no quick help at PG right now.

again...at his previous school he averaged 6 rebounds per game (far less than cam or ovie this year) and had double digit rebound only 6 times (i believe) in 2 years...

hes not going to be a savior on the glass

We don't need a savior. Did you also look at his PT? Or just what he averaged? If he can get his big 7 foot ass under the basket and box out, that will help us on the boards. It's just like if a big man can get under the basket and alter a shot. Sure, he doesn't get a block, but it helps the team. And if we can get Cam, a 7 footer with some athletic ability, and Soko on the court at the same time, that is going to help our overall size. Right now, we are getting murdered on the defensive boards. That is something that can be helped with some size.

(11-26-2011 02:21 PM)blazers9911 Wrote:  

(11-26-2011 11:13 AM)LairDweller Wrote:  

(11-26-2011 02:19 AM)blazers9911 Wrote:  

(11-25-2011 10:21 PM)jthrashr Wrote:  

(11-25-2011 10:20 PM)blazers9911 Wrote:  I think most reasonable people on this board assumed we would be hard pressed to win this game tonight.(even before the season) I knew Creighton was going to give us fits, especially since they had played and we hadn't, but I thought that one was about 50/50 since it was a home game. Obviously we expected to win the Troy game, and Murray State is a team we should beat at home. I was expecting us to be 3-1 or 2-2. Obviously it isn't the start we were looking for, but the good news is it is still very early in the season. Hopefully we can find a way to win vs. Kent State, VCU, or Florida on the road. O'Brien should help if we can get him soon because we really need some help on the glass.

Can he play point guard as well?

No, but as long as he has decent footwork and understands positioning, he can definitely help us on the defensive glass. We are giving up far too many offensive rebounds, and this coupled with our crappy offense is not a good combination. We obviously have numerous problems right now, and I agree PG is #1, but O'Brien can immediately help us get some rebounds. There is no quick help at PG right now.

again...at his previous school he averaged 6 rebounds per game (far less than cam or ovie this year) and had double digit rebound only 6 times (i believe) in 2 years...

hes not going to be a savior on the glass

We don't need a savior. Did you also look at his PT? Or just what he averaged? If he can get his big 7 foot ass under the basket and box out, that will help us on the boards. It's just like if a big man can get under the basket and alter a shot. Sure, he doesn't get a block, but it helps the team. And if we can get Cam, a 7 footer with some athletic ability, and Soko on the court at the same time, that is going to help our overall size. Right now, we are getting murdered on the defensive boards. That is something that can be helped with some size.

Yes...I looked at his playing time. I saw that he went from starting one year to not starting the next. I saw St. Joes fans come to our board and laugh when people said he would be a big piece of the puzzle.
I admit that my thoughts are only based on his stats, which tell a small fraction of the story. However, as far as I can tell, the people who think hell be a bug help are simply basing it on his size, which tells even less of the story.

I've asked what people have seen to make them think hell be a big help. I was hoping to hear...
-good footwork
-understands positioning
-moves very well
-quick off the floor
-something based on having seen him play
I got none of those answers

If the only thing you can point to is "he's big"...I think it's fair to point out that his size hasn't been a very big asset to his previous teams

I hope I'm wrong...but saying "he's big" will never convince me that he'll help very much