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RE: Why a system with no AQ's would be awful
true- but the one that has gotten the most pub is the 1 v 2 scenario. Which would be the worst thing for everyone except Big Ten and SEC.
11-25-2011 02:29 PM
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RE: Why a system with no AQ's would be awful
(11-25-2011 02:29 PM)stever20 Wrote:  true- but the one that has gotten the most pub is the 1 v 2 scenario. Which would be the worst thing for everyone except Big Ten and SEC.

It deservedly gets the most pub because it's the most plausible. I've been saying for a long time that any proposal that isn't brought up by Jim Delany is worthless. He's the most powerful person in college sports along with having direct alignment with the Pac-12 and Rose Bowl. Well, guess who was the one that proposed the "BCS will only run the #1 vs. #2" game proposal? Jim Delany. That's a big deal because it means the Big Ten presidents are on board with it and they carry a disproportionate amount of influence in the system.

Now, I don't think the BCS will end up changing in that manner... and probably won't change much at all. The Delany proposal was brilliant for this reason: he's got the non-AQ conferences DEFENDING the current BCS system! It completely changed the frame of the debate from a playoff system or another type of format that would provide more non-AQ access to one where the non-AQ conferences (plus the Big East) are just fighting to maintain what they have today. The proposal was a legitimate threat: push too hard and we'll seriously just go back to the old system, which is what the bowls and TV networks want, anyway. It was ingenious tactical move to keep the non-AQ conferences honest because, if push came to shove, the power conferences, bowls and TV networks *would* sign up for the Delany proposal in a heartbeat, so it's not some type of fake bluster that the non-AQ conferences can ignore.
11-25-2011 04:27 PM
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RE: Why a system with no AQ's would be awful
(11-25-2011 04:27 PM)Frank the Tank Wrote:  
(11-25-2011 02:29 PM)stever20 Wrote:  true- but the one that has gotten the most pub is the 1 v 2 scenario. Which would be the worst thing for everyone except Big Ten and SEC.

It deservedly gets the most pub because it's the most plausible. I've been saying for a long time that any proposal that isn't brought up by Jim Delany is worthless. He's the most powerful person in college sports along with having direct alignment with the Pac-12 and Rose Bowl. Well, guess who was the one that proposed the "BCS will only run the #1 vs. #2" game proposal? Jim Delany. That's a big deal because it means the Big Ten presidents are on board with it and they carry a disproportionate amount of influence in the system.

Now, I don't think the BCS will end up changing in that manner... and probably won't change much at all. The Delany proposal was brilliant for this reason: he's got the non-AQ conferences DEFENDING the current BCS system! It completely changed the frame of the debate from a playoff system or another type of format that would provide more non-AQ access to one where the non-AQ conferences (plus the Big East) are just fighting to maintain what they have today. The proposal was a legitimate threat: push too hard and we'll seriously just go back to the old system, which is what the bowls and TV networks want, anyway. It was ingenious tactical move to keep the non-AQ conferences honest because, if push came to shove, the power conferences, bowls and TV networks *would* sign up for the Delany proposal in a heartbeat, so it's not some type of fake bluster that the non-AQ conferences can ignore.

This is an excellent post! However, I think the TV networks would eventually find that a system that eliminates the championship hopes of more than half the existing teams would end up having far less TV appeal than they think....but then again, TV networks are not known for long term thinking.
11-25-2011 06:04 PM
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RE: Why a system with no AQ's would be awful
(11-25-2011 06:04 PM)attackfrog Wrote:  
(11-25-2011 04:27 PM)Frank the Tank Wrote:  
(11-25-2011 02:29 PM)stever20 Wrote:  true- but the one that has gotten the most pub is the 1 v 2 scenario. Which would be the worst thing for everyone except Big Ten and SEC.

It deservedly gets the most pub because it's the most plausible. I've been saying for a long time that any proposal that isn't brought up by Jim Delany is worthless. He's the most powerful person in college sports along with having direct alignment with the Pac-12 and Rose Bowl. Well, guess who was the one that proposed the "BCS will only run the #1 vs. #2" game proposal? Jim Delany. That's a big deal because it means the Big Ten presidents are on board with it and they carry a disproportionate amount of influence in the system.

Now, I don't think the BCS will end up changing in that manner... and probably won't change much at all. The Delany proposal was brilliant for this reason: he's got the non-AQ conferences DEFENDING the current BCS system! It completely changed the frame of the debate from a playoff system or another type of format that would provide more non-AQ access to one where the non-AQ conferences (plus the Big East) are just fighting to maintain what they have today. The proposal was a legitimate threat: push too hard and we'll seriously just go back to the old system, which is what the bowls and TV networks want, anyway. It was ingenious tactical move to keep the non-AQ conferences honest because, if push came to shove, the power conferences, bowls and TV networks *would* sign up for the Delany proposal in a heartbeat, so it's not some type of fake bluster that the non-AQ conferences can ignore.

This is an excellent post! However, I think the TV networks would eventually find that a system that eliminates the championship hopes of more than half the existing teams would end up having far less TV appeal than they think....but then again, TV networks are not known for long term thinking.

Frank hit it out of the ballpark and gets it. Delany and Slive are the two most powerful men in College Football.
11-25-2011 06:22 PM
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