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(11-28-2011 02:18 PM)burden Wrote:  Good news. The early RPI ratings have the MAC 13th this year. If we can hold it that's an improvement of 8-10 from last year and closer to where this conference needs to be.

That's great news. Which RPI site are you referring to?

College RPI.com has the MAC as #14 right now. Behind the A-Sun? Yikes. Ahead of the Colonial by far, though.

Quote: Non-Conference Overall
Rank Conference W L Pct RPI SOS RPI
1 Big Ten 62 10 0.8611 0.5968 0.5087 0.5968
2 SEC 52 16 0.7647 0.5759 0.5129 0.5759
3 ACC 52 19 0.7324 0.5684 0.5137 0.5684
4 Big 12 39 12 0.7647 0.5666 0.5005 0.5666
5 Atlantic 10 48 26 0.6486 0.5625 0.5337 0.5625
6 Big East 69 22 0.7582 0.5559 0.4884 0.5559
7 Mountain West 33 10 0.7674 0.5480 0.4749 0.5480
8 Missouri Valley 34 15 0.6939 0.5463 0.4972 0.5463
9 Pac 12 34 30 0.5313 0.5458 0.5506 0.5458
10 West Coast 25 18 0.5814 0.5447 0.5325 0.5447
11 Conference USA 35 24 0.5932 0.5214 0.4975 0.5214
12 Horizon 23 26 0.4694 0.5057 0.5178 0.5057
13 Atlantic Sun 22 27 0.4490 0.4991 0.5159 0.4991
14 Mid-American 25 27 0.4808 0.4987 0.5047 0.4987
15 Summit 22 24 0.4783 0.4966 0.5027 0.4966
16 Sun Belt 24 39 0.3810 0.4871 0.5225 0.4871
17 Big South 18 35 0.3396 0.4822 0.5298 0.4822
18 Metro Atlantic 22 32 0.4074 0.4699 0.4907 0.4699
19 WAC 19 20 0.4872 0.4693 0.4633 0.4693
20 Colonial 27 37 0.4219 0.4609 0.4739 0.4609
21 Ohio Valley 16 40 0.2857 0.4597 0.5176 0.4597
22 Southland 18 33 0.3529 0.4587 0.4939 0.4587
23 Southern 21 32 0.3962 0.4567 0.4768 0.4567
24 Big Sky 17 23 0.4250 0.4566 0.4671 0.4566
25 Ivy 17 27 0.3864 0.4505 0.4719 0.4505
26 Patriot 22 24 0.4783 0.4445 0.4332 0.4445
27 Big West 12 28 0.3000 0.4436 0.4915 0.4436
28 Mid-Eastern 12 51 0.1905 0.4380 0.5205 0.4380
29 Northeast 24 41 0.3692 0.4290 0.4489 0.4290
30 America East 12 31 0.2791 0.4171 0.4631 0.4171
31 SWAC 4 42 0.0870 0.4166 0.5265 0.4166
32 Great West 7 23 0.2333 0.4011 0.4570 0.4011

(11-28-2011 04:01 PM)axeme Wrote:  College RPI.com has the MAC as #14 right now. Behind the A-Sun? Yikes. Ahead of the Colonial by far, though.

Quote: Non-Conference Overall
Rank Conference W L Pct RPI SOS RPI
1 Big Ten 62 10 0.8611 0.5968 0.5087 0.5968
2 SEC 52 16 0.7647 0.5759 0.5129 0.5759
3 ACC 52 19 0.7324 0.5684 0.5137 0.5684
4 Big 12 39 12 0.7647 0.5666 0.5005 0.5666
5 Atlantic 10 48 26 0.6486 0.5625 0.5337 0.5625
6 Big East 69 22 0.7582 0.5559 0.4884 0.5559
7 Mountain West 33 10 0.7674 0.5480 0.4749 0.5480
8 Missouri Valley 34 15 0.6939 0.5463 0.4972 0.5463
9 Pac 12 34 30 0.5313 0.5458 0.5506 0.5458
10 West Coast 25 18 0.5814 0.5447 0.5325 0.5447
11 Conference USA 35 24 0.5932 0.5214 0.4975 0.5214
12 Horizon 23 26 0.4694 0.5057 0.5178 0.5057
13 Atlantic Sun 22 27 0.4490 0.4991 0.5159 0.4991
14 Mid-American 25 27 0.4808 0.4987 0.5047 0.4987
15 Summit 22 24 0.4783 0.4966 0.5027 0.4966
16 Sun Belt 24 39 0.3810 0.4871 0.5225 0.4871
17 Big South 18 35 0.3396 0.4822 0.5298 0.4822
18 Metro Atlantic 22 32 0.4074 0.4699 0.4907 0.4699
19 WAC 19 20 0.4872 0.4693 0.4633 0.4693
20 Colonial 27 37 0.4219 0.4609 0.4739 0.4609
21 Ohio Valley 16 40 0.2857 0.4597 0.5176 0.4597
22 Southland 18 33 0.3529 0.4587 0.4939 0.4587
23 Southern 21 32 0.3962 0.4567 0.4768 0.4567
24 Big Sky 17 23 0.4250 0.4566 0.4671 0.4566
25 Ivy 17 27 0.3864 0.4505 0.4719 0.4505
26 Patriot 22 24 0.4783 0.4445 0.4332 0.4445
27 Big West 12 28 0.3000 0.4436 0.4915 0.4436
28 Mid-Eastern 12 51 0.1905 0.4380 0.5205 0.4380
29 Northeast 24 41 0.3692 0.4290 0.4489 0.4290
30 America East 12 31 0.2791 0.4171 0.4631 0.4171
31 SWAC 4 42 0.0870 0.4166 0.5265 0.4166
32 Great West 7 23 0.2333 0.4011 0.4570 0.4011

And just a pubic hair behind the Horizon. Not so sure anything that guy said made much sense. Any RPI that conference has had the last 2 years was because of Butler.

I was on the Jerry Palm site but probably the day before what you posted. It's changes quickly at this point in the season.

Well, another win for the Vikings over a another scrub MAC team. The Horizon League is 9-4 now against the MAC.

(12-11-2011 11:59 AM)Magnus Wrote:  Well, another win for the Vikings over a another scrub MAC team.

Wow, a tiny bit of success and it flies straight to your head. I guess when you're in Cleveland, you take what you can get. How was the Vikings' postseason run last year again?

And you were lucky to win that game.

(11-24-2011 12:30 AM)Magnus Wrote:  

(11-23-2011 09:43 PM)dannyb73 Wrote:  

(11-23-2011 08:54 PM)Magnus Wrote:  

(11-23-2011 05:04 PM)dannyb73 Wrote:  

(11-23-2011 04:34 PM)Magnus Wrote:  You can compare a slap like Senderoff to Stevens when Kent St. plays in back to back national title games. Better yet, you can give props to Senderoff when Kent St. makes it to back to back NCAA tournaments. Come on man, Senderoff is from a dirty program (IU) and worked for a dirty coach in Sampson. Sorry, but I am far from sold.

Yes, we have Waters and Viking Nation loves him. He is a great coach and the Vikings are going to see many more NCAA Tournament appearances even with Butler in our league. We ran out 4 freshman last night and they all look excellent. This team is an emerging program in the mid major ranks.

First off, Senderoff was the fall guy of the IU scandal. Don't come on this board and point fingers or make claims that you know nothing about. When you are an up and coming assistant, you do what your head coach asks you to do or you go find another job. Secondly, your arrogance if humorous. CSU looked rotten last night. It just so happened, they were SLIGHTLY less rotten than we were. Fact is, you are most likely in the same position KSU is in, meaning that you have to win your conference tourney to go to the NCAA tourney. Lastly, CSU basketball pedigree for the last 10-15 years can't hold a candle to KSU, so table your emotions on our board and keep it real.

First of all, deeming me arrogant is absurd. I think very highly of the KSU basketball program as I noted earlier in this thread. I obviously am thrilled with the Vikes win yesterday because of my respect for the Flashes. However, I could not bite my tongue at the silliness of the Senderoff Stevens comparison. It was an inane comment.

To say the Vikes looked rotten is in the eye of the beholder. What you fail to understand is that CSU GUARDS people. KSU has not seen that type of defensive pressure all season and it showed. The Flashes never got anything going. CSU led from wire to wire and if Tre Harmon does not have an off game, the Vikes win by 15. Give credit where credit is do and spit out your sour grapes.

As for Senderoff, you guys can spin it however you want, but the bottom line is, he did some wrongdoing and I wouldn't put it by him again. You could only dream to have Waters back.

If my grandma had balls.........CSU looked ROTTEN. They turned the ball over 20 times and shot poorly. The same things KSU did. To say we haven't seen that kind of pressure this year is funny. You are a genius....it was our 3rd game. There are no sour grapes. Say what you will about us wanting Waters back. We have sustained what he started without him being here. For a DECADE. So talk out of the side of your mouth elsewhere.

It sounds like a lot of sour grapes to me. CSU looked rotten? Well, if looking rotten equates to wins on opposing teams floors then sign me up. What you MAC hacks don't understand is that the Horizon League is head and shoulders above your conference. CSU is battle tested and on top we already have earned a signature win against a top ten team and we lead the nation in RPI ranking. The game that was played on Tuesday was a hard nosed battle that CSU has won. Speaking of winning, the Vikes are 4-1 vs. Kent State since Waters has taken the helm in Ctown. Chew on that while eating your grandma's turkey.

Wonder how he's feeling about Cleveland State and their RPI after their 4th straight loss today?

yep. Sir Gary the Arrogant is probably wishing he hadn't ran 2 or 3 guys off and now has to rely on freshman to play that style of basketball for 4 months. One thing is good for CSU fans though, Pogue will be gone in a few weeks.

I thought Norris Coles looked good up in Cleveland Friday night!

Oh, yeah, he plays for Cleveland's second favorite team.