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OT: Houston likely in Top 9 after #7 Clemson stunned at NC State
Houston is being talked about as a Sugar Bowl team, and nearly edging the national championship conversation.
But they have to win out. Two undefeated teams. AQ v. non-AQ. College football needs this. It is a discussion that has plagued the non-AQ's existence for a long time: can a non-AQ match up to an SEC team in a BCS bowl, let alone a national championship game?
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11-19-2011 07:20 PM |
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RE: OT: Houston likely in Top 9 after #7 Clemson stunned at NC State
(11-19-2011 07:20 PM)TampaKnight Wrote: Houston is being talked about as a Sugar Bowl team, and nearly edging the national championship conversation.
But they have to win out. Two undefeated teams. AQ v. non-AQ. College football needs this. It is a discussion that has plagued the non-AQ's existence for a long time: can a non-AQ match up to an SEC team in a BCS bowl, let alone a national championship game?
LSU would thump Houston in the title game.
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11-19-2011 07:24 PM |
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RE: OT: Houston likely in Top 9 after #7 Clemson stunned at NC State
Of course a non-AQ can match up with an SEC school in a big game. It isn't likely they would win, but these are all quality football plays at the FBS level, so given the right circumstances, anything can happen. But if I had to bet the rent money, I'm putting my money on the SEC school almost every time.
To your first point, I see no scenario under which Houston enters the national championship picture.
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RE: OT: Houston likely in Top 9 after #7 Clemson stunned at NC State
(11-19-2011 07:24 PM)OrangeCrush22 Wrote: (11-19-2011 07:20 PM)TampaKnight Wrote: Houston is being talked about as a Sugar Bowl team, and nearly edging the national championship conversation.
But they have to win out. Two undefeated teams. AQ v. non-AQ. College football needs this. It is a discussion that has plagued the non-AQ's existence for a long time: can a non-AQ match up to an SEC team in a BCS bowl, let alone a national championship game?
LSU would thump Houston in the title game.
Best thing for Houston is to play an ACC team cause Houston would blow out any ACC team including overrated VTECH.
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11-19-2011 07:54 PM |
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RE: OT: Houston likely in Top 9 after #7 Clemson stunned at NC State
(11-19-2011 07:54 PM)SF Husky Wrote: (11-19-2011 07:24 PM)OrangeCrush22 Wrote: (11-19-2011 07:20 PM)TampaKnight Wrote: Houston is being talked about as a Sugar Bowl team, and nearly edging the national championship conversation.
But they have to win out. Two undefeated teams. AQ v. non-AQ. College football needs this. It is a discussion that has plagued the non-AQ's existence for a long time: can a non-AQ match up to an SEC team in a BCS bowl, let alone a national championship game?
LSU would thump Houston in the title game.
Best thing for Houston is to play an ACC team cause Houston would blow out any ACC team including overrated VTECH.
The only way Houston gets into the Orange Bowl, is if the Orange Bowl is forced to take them. Houston will probably end up in the Sugar or Fiesta bowl if they win out.
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11-19-2011 07:59 PM |
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RE: OT: Houston likely in Top 9 after #7 Clemson stunned at NC State
(11-19-2011 07:54 PM)SF Husky Wrote: (11-19-2011 07:24 PM)OrangeCrush22 Wrote: (11-19-2011 07:20 PM)TampaKnight Wrote: Houston is being talked about as a Sugar Bowl team, and nearly edging the national championship conversation.
But they have to win out. Two undefeated teams. AQ v. non-AQ. College football needs this. It is a discussion that has plagued the non-AQ's existence for a long time: can a non-AQ match up to an SEC team in a BCS bowl, let alone a national championship game?
LSU would thump Houston in the title game.
Best thing for Houston is to play an ACC team cause Houston would blow out any ACC team including overrated VTECH.
Probably Houstons best outcome. Sumlin has made strides in recruiting better athelets, but the upper-tier SEC teams are just too solid across the board for Houston to be competeive. Perhaps in a few more years if the program can parlay its current on field success into recruiting success, then maybe we will have a chance. But I dont see it being a very fun night playing against an LSU or Alabama.
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RE: OT: Houston likely in Top 9 after #7 Clemson stunned at NC State
(11-19-2011 07:54 PM)SF Husky Wrote: (11-19-2011 07:24 PM)OrangeCrush22 Wrote: (11-19-2011 07:20 PM)TampaKnight Wrote: Houston is being talked about as a Sugar Bowl team, and nearly edging the national championship conversation.
But they have to win out. Two undefeated teams. AQ v. non-AQ. College football needs this. It is a discussion that has plagued the non-AQ's existence for a long time: can a non-AQ match up to an SEC team in a BCS bowl, let alone a national championship game?
LSU would thump Houston in the title game.
Best thing for Houston is to play an ACC team cause Houston would blow out any ACC team including overrated VTECH.
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11-19-2011 09:23 PM |
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RE: OT: Houston likely in Top 9 after #7 Clemson stunned at NC State
Orange Bowl officials were all over the campus and game this weekend, AW F**K IT!
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11-19-2011 10:38 PM |
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RE: OT: Houston likely in Top 9 after #7 Clemson stunned at NC State
The best thing for the Houston program would be to NOT be picked to play in the NC game. They will not fare well against that top SEC talent and all that they have achieved this year will be tarnished with an ugly blowout beatdown at the hands of LSU. LSU is simply too close to Houston, hell the city of Houston is ripe LSU recruiting grounds. That would be horrible for Houston.
They are better off to be tabbed for a lesser BCS bowl. They will atleast put up a good game and that will end up as a positive for Houston. A win in a lesser bowl allows Houston to say that they Should have been given a title shot. That is a positive in every way, shape and form.
That is one of the reasons why playoffs arent a positive thing. The BCS system allows programs like Houston to have win win scenario's.
I know everyone is all pumped to see Houston get a chance to be a BCS buster but if they get blown out by LSU in the NC game......it would be a horrible thing for the program.
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11-20-2011 01:08 AM |
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RE: OT: Houston likely in Top 9 after #7 Clemson stunned at NC State
Houston looking at Sugar Bowl vs Michigan or Orange Bowl vs Va Tech/Clemson. I think the key is Big East Champion. If West Virginia won- look for them to go to the Sugar Bowl, sending Houston to the Orange. If anyone else wins, Houston goes to the Sugar Bowl....
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11-20-2011 01:13 AM |
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RE: OT: Houston likely in Top 9 after #7 Clemson stunned at NC State
Houston was 10th in the human polls last week ahead of Boise.
Oregon, Oklahoma and Clemson will drop behind Houston in the human polls. UH will be 7th by the humans, pending the Stanford-Cal game which is 28-21 in the 4th Q.
I have no idea how the computers will impact it. Last week, the computers made the difference between Houston and Boise St at 10-11.
(This post was last modified: 11-20-2011 01:17 AM by CougarRed.)
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11-20-2011 01:17 AM |
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RE: OT: Houston likely in Top 9 after #7 Clemson stunned at NC State
(11-20-2011 01:13 AM)stever20 Wrote: Houston looking at Sugar Bowl vs Michigan or Orange Bowl vs Va Tech/Clemson. I think the key is Big East Champion. If West Virginia won- look for them to go to the Sugar Bowl, sending Houston to the Orange. If anyone else wins, Houston goes to the Sugar Bowl....
Houston to the Sugar Bowl would be worst case scenario, assuming LSU wins out and Alabama ends up in the Sugar Bowl. The best thing for Houston would be to face the ACC or BE champ or an all at-large meeting with Boise.
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11-20-2011 01:22 AM |
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RE: OT: Houston likely in Top 9 after #7 Clemson stunned at NC State
(11-20-2011 01:22 AM)Zombiewoof Wrote: (11-20-2011 01:13 AM)stever20 Wrote: Houston looking at Sugar Bowl vs Michigan or Orange Bowl vs Va Tech/Clemson. I think the key is Big East Champion. If West Virginia won- look for them to go to the Sugar Bowl, sending Houston to the Orange. If anyone else wins, Houston goes to the Sugar Bowl....
Houston to the Sugar Bowl would be worst case scenario, assuming LSU wins out and Alabama ends up in the Sugar Bowl. The best thing for Houston would be to face the ACC or BE champ or an all at-large meeting with Boise.
Wrong. Best thing for Houston is to face one of the big boys and beat them. Houston wont be facing the BE champ cause it's not possible due to selection order. Facing Boise would suck for both. Beating Michigan or Bama would make a lot more noise.
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11-20-2011 01:27 AM |
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RE: OT: Houston likely in Top 9 after #7 Clemson stunned at NC State
(11-20-2011 01:27 AM)SF Husky Wrote: (11-20-2011 01:22 AM)Zombiewoof Wrote: (11-20-2011 01:13 AM)stever20 Wrote: Houston looking at Sugar Bowl vs Michigan or Orange Bowl vs Va Tech/Clemson. I think the key is Big East Champion. If West Virginia won- look for them to go to the Sugar Bowl, sending Houston to the Orange. If anyone else wins, Houston goes to the Sugar Bowl....
Houston to the Sugar Bowl would be worst case scenario, assuming LSU wins out and Alabama ends up in the Sugar Bowl. The best thing for Houston would be to face the ACC or BE champ or an all at-large meeting with Boise.
Wrong. Best thing for Houston is to face one of the big boys and beat them. Houston wont be facing the BE champ cause it's not possible due to selection order. Facing Boise would suck for both. Beating Michigan or Bama would make a lot more noise.
That is a very big IF. IF they beat one of the big boys THEN it is the best thing for Houston but that huge positive also is tied to a very huge negative. A big loss to one of the Big Boys will destroy the Aura that surrounds the Houston team currently. If that big loss happens during a Big Show then the wondrous season will merely be looked at as a season against mediocre talent and running up the score with the first string when the second and third strings should have gotten more playing time.
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11-20-2011 01:36 AM |
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RE: OT: Houston likely in Top 9 after #7 Clemson stunned at NC State
(11-20-2011 01:27 AM)SF Husky Wrote: Wrong. Best thing for Houston is to face one of the big boys and beat them. Houston wont be facing the BE champ cause it's not possible due to selection order. Facing Boise would suck for both. Beating Michigan or Bama would make a lot more noise.
Certainly winning against any of the champions of the top conferences would be ideal, but I was looking for a more realistic option. Since I believe beating LSU, Alabama, Arkansas, Michigan, Oklahoma State, Oklahoma or Wisconsin would be remote, I think matching up with the ACC or Big East champion offers their best hope to win.
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11-20-2011 01:39 AM |
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RE: OT: Houston likely in Top 9 after #7 Clemson stunned at NC State
DOn't think you understood what I'm saying...
title game is LSU/Alabama
Sugar would be Michigan vs Houston or West Virginia.
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11-20-2011 02:12 AM |
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RE: OT: Houston likely in Top 9 after #7 Clemson stunned at NC State
(11-20-2011 02:12 AM)stever20 Wrote: DOn't think you understood what I'm saying...
title game is LSU/Alabama
Sugar would be Michigan vs Houston or West Virginia.
You are right. I was strictly looking at it as an LSU vs. someone other than Alabama in the NC game. An LSU/Alabama rematch would probably bring the Big 10 #2 to the Sugar Bowl.
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11-20-2011 03:05 AM |
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RE: OT: Houston likely in Top 9 after #7 Clemson stunned at NC State
Gotta beat Tulsa first folks.
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11-20-2011 08:30 AM |
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RE: OT: Houston likely in Top 9 after #7 Clemson stunned at NC State
Wow...Oklahoma State, Oregon, Oklahoma, Clemson...
Wow. Wow.
Wow.
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11-20-2011 08:45 AM |
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RE: OT: Houston likely in Top 9 after #7 Clemson stunned at NC State
(11-20-2011 01:36 AM)He1nousOne Wrote: (11-20-2011 01:27 AM)SF Husky Wrote: (11-20-2011 01:22 AM)Zombiewoof Wrote: (11-20-2011 01:13 AM)stever20 Wrote: Houston looking at Sugar Bowl vs Michigan or Orange Bowl vs Va Tech/Clemson. I think the key is Big East Champion. If West Virginia won- look for them to go to the Sugar Bowl, sending Houston to the Orange. If anyone else wins, Houston goes to the Sugar Bowl....
Houston to the Sugar Bowl would be worst case scenario, assuming LSU wins out and Alabama ends up in the Sugar Bowl. The best thing for Houston would be to face the ACC or BE champ or an all at-large meeting with Boise.
Wrong. Best thing for Houston is to face one of the big boys and beat them. Houston wont be facing the BE champ cause it's not possible due to selection order. Facing Boise would suck for both. Beating Michigan or Bama would make a lot more noise.
That is a very big IF. IF they beat one of the big boys THEN it is the best thing for Houston but that huge positive also is tied to a very huge negative. A big loss to one of the Big Boys will destroy the Aura that surrounds the Houston team currently. If that big loss happens during a Big Show then the wondrous season will merely be looked at as a season against mediocre talent and running up the score with the first string when the second and third strings should have gotten more playing time.
Oh please, the first string has been pulled in 8 of 11 games and for the most part Keenum has been pulled anywhere from the middle of the third to early in the fourth. Against Tulane, he was pulled with the team up 52-10 and >7:00 to go in the third quarter.
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