(11-19-2011 07:57 AM)ShoreBuc Wrote:  

(11-19-2011 07:50 AM)CardinalJim Wrote:  

(11-19-2011 12:45 AM)TampaKnight Wrote:  LSU-Houston BCS National Championship has just become a legitimate, but unlikely discussion.

That will never happen. The PAC, Big 12 and Big 10 would never allow it.
CJ

Tulsa might just end that speculation anyway. Heck SMU might have something to say about it today. They knocked off TCU so they are fully capable of beating UH. Love to see UH make a BCS run but any talk of playing in the Championship is pure fantasy based on their SOS. BCS Computer rankings will never get them high enough to sniff that match up even if they go undefeated.

UCLA was fully capable of beating UH that should tell you that UH does not belong in the NCG considering that is also their best win thus far.

(11-19-2011 11:31 AM)Wedge Wrote:  There is no satisfactory way to have a FBS playoff in which every FBS conference gets an autobid.

In hoops, there are 68 places in the NCAA tournament. Sure, the Ohio Valley Conference gets an autobid just like the Big East does. But with all of the at-large spots (I think there are 34), the Big East gets at least half of their teams in the field -- this year there were 11 Big East teams in the NCAAs -- while the OVC has just one. Really good Big East teams don't get shafted out of the tournament just for being in a really good conference.

Are you ready for a football tournament that is large enough to include at least half of the SEC and between a third and a half of the teams from the other top conferences? Because that's what it would take to be as close to fair as you can get. That's what March Madness is.

And if you're not trying to be more fair, then you've lost the whole rationale for having a playoff at all.

If there are 16 teams, you take 11 champs and 5 at larges. if all 5 being SEC teams and they deserve it, so be it. Same thing for 32 teams etc.

The problem is SEC gets a lot of hype. I remember clearly the year when UCONN played South Carolina in the Papajohn bowl. South Carolina fans were telling UCONN fans there was no way a middle of the pack BE teams can handle a middle of the pack SEC team with Steve Garcia at QB and all of their top recruiting classes. On the field and in the real game, UCONN dominated USC on both sides of the ball and smoked them. It was a blowout essentially with UCONN players being faster. after the game, we did not hear a peep from those USC fans. Oh yeah, the game was played in SEC country as well. There are other examples of this WVU vs. UGA in 2006, UTAH vs. Bam a or Boise vs. UGA recently.

If SEC is so good, I like to see them prove it on a neutral field vs. media hype. BE basketball has to prove it on the court so why not the same for college football?

(11-19-2011 05:28 AM)x97 Wrote:  The system needs to be blown up. I think there is no doubt about that. There are so many teams that could lay claim as being deserving for a national title shot right now. The winner of bedlam. Oregon with an LSU rematch for the national title? Alabama with an LSU rematch for the national title? Hell, I'd even throw Clemson and Houston in there right now. They at least deserve a shot.

And if LSU were to lose in the SEC title game could you definitively pick out the two best teams for a NCG? Hell, picking one would be difficult as having separated itself from the pack....let alone two. Lots of teams could have equal claim to the same opportunity.

I really believe a 16 team playoff is the way to go. You get the 16 best teams in the country and the school that runs 4 games through that gauntlet undefeated is your national champion. Debate over. And the garbage about the regular season having less meaning under such scenario is just that.....garbage. Instead of maybe 3 or 4 games having championship implications each week this late in the season you could realistically have 15, 20 or 25 games with direct relevance as schools on the bubble look to qualify and higher ranked schools look to maintain or improve seeding. The competition would be fierce.

Think of how exciting college bball season gets as it rolls into February and early March and all the projections and opinions about who is in and who isn't. Who is seeded what and who needs to win to maintain seeding. Who's going to upset who in conference tourneys and punch their auto ticket (similar to what CC games in football...ala pac 12 south this year). All schools ranked 10-25 would basically be on the bubble right now. Think of the excitement right there. If you are ranked 10th right now you know if you win out you'll have punched your ticket. If you lose you could be out all together. If you are ranked 25th then you are hoping a strong finish combined with some upsets ahead of you couldl be enough to punch your ticket. Bracketology for college football? Fun stuff. Exciting for many college football fans of many teams. When there are a bunch of schools that haven't separated themselves from the pack (such as this year) it becomes even better. All those schools know they'll get their chance to prove on the field. No one will get left out because of some computer geek's formula says he didn't quite make the cut. Or because voters make have biases toward certain schools or conferences.

How would college football's excitement level not go up or something like that? It's just sad the system is what it is. So many schools with almost identical claims for a "chance" and only 2 will make the cut. It's really too bad.

My point here exactly. Just play the first eight games, say, the week before Christmas, and the Elite Eight make it to a big New Years Day Bowl Game. Play high-low seed like BB. Four teams left after the holidays. The semi-finals and Championship and it's done. The right way. NCAA and the surviving schools make a fortune bidding out these games. All four existing BCS Bowls become relevant to the Championship.

(11-19-2011 11:33 AM)Sultan of Euphonistan Wrote:  

(11-19-2011 07:57 AM)ShoreBuc Wrote:  

(11-19-2011 07:50 AM)CardinalJim Wrote:  

(11-19-2011 12:45 AM)TampaKnight Wrote:  LSU-Houston BCS National Championship has just become a legitimate, but unlikely discussion.

That will never happen. The PAC, Big 12 and Big 10 would never allow it.
CJ

Tulsa might just end that speculation anyway. Heck SMU might have something to say about it today. They knocked off TCU so they are fully capable of beating UH. Love to see UH make a BCS run but any talk of playing in the Championship is pure fantasy based on their SOS. BCS Computer rankings will never get them high enough to sniff that match up even if they go undefeated.

UCLA was fully capable of beating UH that should tell you that UH does not belong in the NCG considering that is also their best win thus far.

But UCLA didn't beat them, so what's your point?

Are you suggesting that no one else in line for the NC game plays close games against middle of their conference games. Heck, Oklahoma State just lost to a middle of the conference team & Oklahoma lost to a bad Texas Tech team. Stanford had to go to 3 OT's to get by a USC team that isn't much better than UCLA.

(11-19-2011 11:31 AM)Wedge Wrote:  There is no satisfactory way to have a FBS playoff in which every FBS conference gets an autobid.

In hoops, there are 68 places in the NCAA tournament. Sure, the Ohio Valley Conference gets an autobid just like the Big East does. But with all of the at-large spots (I think there are 34), the Big East gets at least half of their teams in the field -- this year there were 11 Big East teams in the NCAAs -- while the OVC has just one. Really good Big East teams don't get shafted out of the tournament just for being in a really good conference.

Are you ready for a football tournament that is large enough to include at least half of the SEC and between a third and a half of the teams from the other top conferences? Because that's what it would take to be as close to fair as you can get. That's what March Madness is.

And if you're not trying to be more fair, then you've lost the whole rationale for having a playoff at all.

See how the FCS playoff is run. Is that not fair? I don't follow FCS, but I am sure there are conferences that are much stronger than others. All conferences with a championship game gets a bid and nobody *******. Sure some at large teams may be left out every year when they feel like they should have been included, but tough, should have won their conference.

(11-19-2011 11:49 AM)SF Husky Wrote:  

(11-19-2011 11:31 AM)Wedge Wrote:  There is no satisfactory way to have a FBS playoff in which every FBS conference gets an autobid.

In hoops, there are 68 places in the NCAA tournament. Sure, the Ohio Valley Conference gets an autobid just like the Big East does. But with all of the at-large spots (I think there are 34), the Big East gets at least half of their teams in the field -- this year there were 11 Big East teams in the NCAAs -- while the OVC has just one. Really good Big East teams don't get shafted out of the tournament just for being in a really good conference.

Are you ready for a football tournament that is large enough to include at least half of the SEC and between a third and a half of the teams from the other top conferences? Because that's what it would take to be as close to fair as you can get. That's what March Madness is.

And if you're not trying to be more fair, then you've lost the whole rationale for having a playoff at all.

If there are 16 teams, you take 11 champs and 5 at larges. if all 5 being SEC teams and they deserve it, so be it. Same thing for 32 teams etc.

The problem is SEC gets a lot of hype. I remember clearly the year when UCONN played South Carolina in the Papajohn bowl. South Carolina fans were telling UCONN fans there was no way a middle of the pack BE teams can handle a middle of the pack SEC team with Steve Garcia at QB and all of their top recruiting classes. On the field and in the real game, UCONN dominated USC on both sides of the ball and smoked them. It was a blowout essentially with UCONN players being faster. after the game, we did not hear a peep from those USC fans. Oh yeah, the game was played in SEC country as well. There are other examples of this WVU vs. UGA in 2006, UTAH vs. Bam a or Boise vs. UGA recently.

If SEC is so good, I like to see them prove it on a neutral field vs. media hype. BE basketball has to prove it on the court so why not the same for college football?

How do you determine who is deserving of those 5 at large spots? Are we using the same metric thats put 11 BEast teams into the mens bball tourney for the past 7 years?

(11-19-2011 02:00 PM)vandiver49 Wrote:  

(11-19-2011 11:49 AM)SF Husky Wrote:  

(11-19-2011 11:31 AM)Wedge Wrote:  There is no satisfactory way to have a FBS playoff in which every FBS conference gets an autobid.

In hoops, there are 68 places in the NCAA tournament. Sure, the Ohio Valley Conference gets an autobid just like the Big East does. But with all of the at-large spots (I think there are 34), the Big East gets at least half of their teams in the field -- this year there were 11 Big East teams in the NCAAs -- while the OVC has just one. Really good Big East teams don't get shafted out of the tournament just for being in a really good conference.

Are you ready for a football tournament that is large enough to include at least half of the SEC and between a third and a half of the teams from the other top conferences? Because that's what it would take to be as close to fair as you can get. That's what March Madness is.

And if you're not trying to be more fair, then you've lost the whole rationale for having a playoff at all.

If there are 16 teams, you take 11 champs and 5 at larges. if all 5 being SEC teams and they deserve it, so be it. Same thing for 32 teams etc.

The problem is SEC gets a lot of hype. I remember clearly the year when UCONN played South Carolina in the Papajohn bowl. South Carolina fans were telling UCONN fans there was no way a middle of the pack BE teams can handle a middle of the pack SEC team with Steve Garcia at QB and all of their top recruiting classes. On the field and in the real game, UCONN dominated USC on both sides of the ball and smoked them. It was a blowout essentially with UCONN players being faster. after the game, we did not hear a peep from those USC fans. Oh yeah, the game was played in SEC country as well. There are other examples of this WVU vs. UGA in 2006, UTAH vs. Bam a or Boise vs. UGA recently.

If SEC is so good, I like to see them prove it on a neutral field vs. media hype. BE basketball has to prove it on the court so why not the same for college football?

How do you determine who is deserving of those 5 at large spots? Are we using the same metric thats put 11 BEast teams into the mens bball tourney for the past 7 years?

You have a committee like the NCAA hoops and pick 5 most deserving teams based on rankings, away wins etc. They should do it similar to NCAA hoops. Teams that win on the road give higher ratings than teams don't. Since SEC plays like 99% of their OOC games at home, it might force some teams to change their schedule practices.

When UCONN won the national championship last year, UCONN had to beat multiple ranked opponents. I lost count how many UCONN beat. UCONN had to play two virtual road games in the sweet 16 against top 5 SDSU and ranked Arizona in the elite 8. They earned it on the court as it should be. I just wish football is the same but it is not right now.

You're suggesting a tournament with 11 autobids and 5 at-larges.

If you ran the NCAA hoops tournament with about the same ratio, you'd have a field of 48 with 34 autobids and only 14 at-large teams (instead of the 34 at-large teams we have now). You might have only three Big East teams in the bracket. With only 14 at-large teams, that would mean taking the 2011 bracket, for example, and throwing out every at-large team seeded lower than #5. Teams from the Big East and other top conferences with 24 wins would be in the NIT while several teams not in the RPI top 200 are still in the NCAAs. No one would prefer that to the current NCAA tournament format.

Again, to be as close to fair as March Madness, if you want to accommodate 11 autobids, you'd need at least 11 at-large teams. The closest to that would be a field of 24 in which the top 8 get first-round byes. That way, you'd at least ensure that every top-12 team is in the field.

Another way to get more at-large teams in the field is to have a play-in where the four lowest-rated conference champs have a four-team playoff for one bid in the main field. (I've suggested something similar for hoops, where they could have the 16 lowest-rated conference champs play four-team brackets with each of the four winners getting a place in a main field of 64. That would increase the number of at-large places in the NCAA tournament to 42.)

But in a world where we have a 2-team FBS playoff and there's a lot of resistance to expanding it to 4, we're not going to see 16, 24, or more anytime in the near future, anyway.

(11-19-2011 11:59 AM)Melky Cabrera Wrote:  Stanford had to go to 3 OT's to get by a USC team that isn't much better than UCLA.

USC is 8-2 and ranked 18th in the AP.

UCLA is 5-5 and unranked.

I can't believe you're actually trying to equate the 2 schools.

(11-19-2011 11:59 AM)Melky Cabrera Wrote:  

(11-19-2011 11:33 AM)Sultan of Euphonistan Wrote:  

(11-19-2011 07:57 AM)ShoreBuc Wrote:  

(11-19-2011 07:50 AM)CardinalJim Wrote:  

(11-19-2011 12:45 AM)TampaKnight Wrote:  LSU-Houston BCS National Championship has just become a legitimate, but unlikely discussion.

That will never happen. The PAC, Big 12 and Big 10 would never allow it.
CJ

Tulsa might just end that speculation anyway. Heck SMU might have something to say about it today. They knocked off TCU so they are fully capable of beating UH. Love to see UH make a BCS run but any talk of playing in the Championship is pure fantasy based on their SOS. BCS Computer rankings will never get them high enough to sniff that match up even if they go undefeated.

UCLA was fully capable of beating UH that should tell you that UH does not belong in the NCG considering that is also their best win thus far.

But UCLA didn't beat them, so what's your point?

Are you suggesting that no one else in line for the NC game plays close games against middle of their conference games. Heck, Oklahoma State just lost to a middle of the conference team & Oklahoma lost to a bad Texas Tech team. Stanford had to go to 3 OT's to get by a USC team that isn't much better than UCLA.

Nobody that plays no ranked teams deserves to be in a NCG discussion. UH has played nobody this entire season at all worth mentioning in a national discussion. Boise at least plays 1-2+ games against good teams so they can at least claim they can beat good teams. Houston looks really good playing bad teams and then looks real vulnerable playing decent teams (notice not good teams just decent teams). That is not remotely comparable to OSU who has had to play a bunch of ranked teams this year alone (and by the way Houston's best win is about the level of playing middle of the pack of the Big-12 at best where OSU has to play those teams and play much better teams).

(11-19-2011 02:16 PM)SF Husky Wrote:  

(11-19-2011 02:00 PM)vandiver49 Wrote:  

(11-19-2011 11:49 AM)SF Husky Wrote:  

(11-19-2011 11:31 AM)Wedge Wrote:  There is no satisfactory way to have a FBS playoff in which every FBS conference gets an autobid.

In hoops, there are 68 places in the NCAA tournament. Sure, the Ohio Valley Conference gets an autobid just like the Big East does. But with all of the at-large spots (I think there are 34), the Big East gets at least half of their teams in the field -- this year there were 11 Big East teams in the NCAAs -- while the OVC has just one. Really good Big East teams don't get shafted out of the tournament just for being in a really good conference.

Are you ready for a football tournament that is large enough to include at least half of the SEC and between a third and a half of the teams from the other top conferences? Because that's what it would take to be as close to fair as you can geti. That's what March Madness is.

And if you're not trying to be more fair, then you've lost the whole rationale for having a playoff at all.

If there are 16 teams, you take 11 champs and 5 at larges. if all 5 being SEC teams and they deserve it, so be it. Same thing for 32 teams etc.

The problem is SEC gets a lot of hype. I remember clearly the year when UCONN played South Carolina in the Papajohn bowl. South Carolina fans were telling UCONN fans there was no way a middle of the pack BE teams can handle a middle of the pack SEC team with Steve Garcia at QB and all of their top recruiting classes. On the field and in the real game, UCONN dominated USC on both sides of the ball and smoked them. It was a blowout essentially with UCONN players being faster. after the game, we did not hear a peep from those USC fans. Oh yeah, the game was played in SEC country as well. There are other examples of this WVU vs. UGA in 2006, UTAH vs. Bam a or Boise vs. UGA recently.

If SEC is so good, I like to see them prove it on a neutral field vs. media hype. BE basketball has to prove it on the court so why not the same for college football?

How do you determine who is deserving of those 5 at large spots? Are we using the same metric thats put 11 BEast teams into the mens bball tourney for the past 7 years?

You have a committee like the NCAA hoops and pick 5 most deserving teams based on rankings, away wins etc. They should do it similar to NCAA hoops. Teams that win on the road give higher ratings than teams don't. Since SEC plays like 99% of their OOC games at home, it might force some teams to change their schedule practices.

When UCONN won the national championship last year, UCONN had to beat multiple ranked opponents. I lost count how many UCONN beat. UCONN had to play two virtual road games in the sweet 16 against top 5 SDSU and ranked Arizona in the elite 8. They earned it on the court as it should be. I just wish football is the same but it is not right now.

The BEast benefits from media hype in basketball as much as the SEC does in football. While UConn performed well during March Madness, going 9-9 in conference play is IMO doing just enough to make the conference tourney.

(11-19-2011 07:09 PM)vandiver49 Wrote:  

(11-19-2011 02:16 PM)SF Husky Wrote:  

(11-19-2011 02:00 PM)vandiver49 Wrote:  

(11-19-2011 11:49 AM)SF Husky Wrote:  

(11-19-2011 11:31 AM)Wedge Wrote:  There is no satisfactory way to have a FBS playoff in which every FBS conference gets an autobid.

In hoops, there are 68 places in the NCAA tournament. Sure, the Ohio Valley Conference gets an autobid just like the Big East does. But with all of the at-large spots (I think there are 34), the Big East gets at least half of their teams in the field -- this year there were 11 Big East teams in the NCAAs -- while the OVC has just one. Really good Big East teams don't get shafted out of the tournament just for being in a really good conference.

Are you ready for a football tournament that is large enough to include at least half of the SEC and between a third and a half of the teams from the other top conferences? Because that's what it would take to be as close to fair as you can geti. That's what March Madness is.

And if you're not trying to be more fair, then you've lost the whole rationale for having a playoff at all.

If there are 16 teams, you take 11 champs and 5 at larges. if all 5 being SEC teams and they deserve it, so be it. Same thing for 32 teams etc.

The problem is SEC gets a lot of hype. I remember clearly the year when UCONN played South Carolina in the Papajohn bowl. South Carolina fans were telling UCONN fans there was no way a middle of the pack BE teams can handle a middle of the pack SEC team with Steve Garcia at QB and all of their top recruiting classes. On the field and in the real game, UCONN dominated USC on both sides of the ball and smoked them. It was a blowout essentially with UCONN players being faster. after the game, we did not hear a peep from those USC fans. Oh yeah, the game was played in SEC country as well. There are other examples of this WVU vs. UGA in 2006, UTAH vs. Bam a or Boise vs. UGA recently.

If SEC is so good, I like to see them prove it on a neutral field vs. media hype. BE basketball has to prove it on the court so why not the same for college football?

How do you determine who is deserving of those 5 at large spots? Are we using the same metric thats put 11 BEast teams into the mens bball tourney for the past 7 years?

You have a committee like the NCAA hoops and pick 5 most deserving teams based on rankings, away wins etc. They should do it similar to NCAA hoops. Teams that win on the road give higher ratings than teams don't. Since SEC plays like 99% of their OOC games at home, it might force some teams to change their schedule practices.

When UCONN won the national championship last year, UCONN had to beat multiple ranked opponents. I lost count how many UCONN beat. UCONN had to play two virtual road games in the sweet 16 against top 5 SDSU and ranked Arizona in the elite 8. They earned it on the court as it should be. I just wish football is the same but it is not right now.

The BEast benefits from media hype in basketball as much as the SEC does in football. While UConn performed well during March Madness, going 9-9 in conference play is IMO doing just enough to make the conference tourney.

Really? You forgot to mention that UCONN went undefeated in OOC play with 2 victories over Kentucky, beat Zona in a virtual road game, beat Michigan ST and beat Texas at Texas. UCONN also won the BET against BE teams they lost. To earlier. That was no hype. BE was the best conference and UCONN was the best team by year end.

(11-19-2011 07:52 PM)SF Husky Wrote:  

(11-19-2011 07:09 PM)vandiver49 Wrote:  

(11-19-2011 02:16 PM)SF Husky Wrote:  

(11-19-2011 02:00 PM)vandiver49 Wrote:  

(11-19-2011 11:49 AM)SF Husky Wrote:  If there are 16 teams, you take 11 champs and 5 at larges. if all 5 being SEC teams and they deserve it, so be it. Same thing for 32 teams etc.

The problem is SEC gets a lot of hype. I remember clearly the year when UCONN played South Carolina in the Papajohn bowl. South Carolina fans were telling UCONN fans there was no way a middle of the pack BE teams can handle a middle of the pack SEC team with Steve Garcia at QB and all of their top recruiting classes. On the field and in the real game, UCONN dominated USC on both sides of the ball and smoked them. It was a blowout essentially with UCONN players being faster. after the game, we did not hear a peep from those USC fans. Oh yeah, the game was played in SEC country as well. There are other examples of this WVU vs. UGA in 2006, UTAH vs. Bam a or Boise vs. UGA recently.

If SEC is so good, I like to see them prove it on a neutral field vs. media hype. BE basketball has to prove it on the court so why not the same for college football?

How do you determine who is deserving of those 5 at large spots? Are we using the same metric thats put 11 BEast teams into the mens bball tourney for the past 7 years?

You have a committee like the NCAA hoops and pick 5 most deserving teams based on rankings, away wins etc. They should do it similar to NCAA hoops. Teams that win on the road give higher ratings than teams don't. Since SEC plays like 99% of their OOC games at home, it might force some teams to change their schedule practices.

When UCONN won the national championship last year, UCONN had to beat multiple ranked opponents. I lost count how many UCONN beat. UCONN had to play two virtual road games in the sweet 16 against top 5 SDSU and ranked Arizona in the elite 8. They earned it on the court as it should be. I just wish football is the same but it is not right now.

The BEast benefits from media hype in basketball as much as the SEC does in football. While UConn performed well during March Madness, going 9-9 in conference play is IMO doing just enough to make the conference tourney.

Really? You forgot to mention that UCONN went undefeated in OOC play with 2 victories over Kentucky, beat Zona in a virtual road game, beat Michigan ST and beat Texas at Texas. UCONN also won the BET against BE teams they lost. To earlier. That was no hype. BE was the best conference and UCONN was the best team by year end.

You're right, UConn was the best. But having to watch Pitt, ND and Loiusville live down to expectations year in year out is frustrating to a non-BEast fan.

Whatever it takes. 11 champions, top 16, I dont care as long as we let everyone have a shot, like the Houstons, and Boise States, etc. Anything but a paper champion... yes paper champion. How in the hell can you decide this year who should be in the BCS Championship. And having said that, can you imagine if all these one loss teams were in a playoff? Why can't the NCAA see this???

(11-19-2011 09:29 PM)USAFMEDIC Wrote:  Whatever it takes. 11 champions, top 16, I dont care as long as we let everyone have a shot, like the Houstons, and Boise States, etc. Anything but a paper champion... yes paper champion. How in the hell can you decide this year who should be in the BCS Championship. And having said that, can you imagine if all these one loss teams were in a playoff? Why can't the NCAA see this???

Because the NCAA has nothing to do with the FBS postseason.

(11-19-2011 10:08 PM)vandiver49 Wrote:  

(11-19-2011 09:29 PM)USAFMEDIC Wrote:  Whatever it takes. 11 champions, top 16, I dont care as long as we let everyone have a shot, like the Houstons, and Boise States, etc. Anything but a paper champion... yes paper champion. How in the hell can you decide this year who should be in the BCS Championship. And having said that, can you imagine if all these one loss teams were in a playoff? Why can't the NCAA see this???

Because the NCAA has nothing to do with the FBS postseason.

OK, then why can't the BCS see the financial possibilities with this new system as well as having a real champion???

(11-19-2011 10:08 PM)vandiver49 Wrote:  

(11-19-2011 09:29 PM)USAFMEDIC Wrote:  Whatever it takes. 11 champions, top 16, I dont care as long as we let everyone have a shot, like the Houstons, and Boise States, etc. Anything but a paper champion... yes paper champion. How in the hell can you decide this year who should be in the BCS Championship. And having said that, can you imagine if all these one loss teams were in a playoff? Why can't the NCAA see this???

Because the NCAA has nothing to do with the FBS postseason.

Let's not forget the NCAA turned down a $3Billion dollar postseason offer once before...

(11-19-2011 12:37 AM)KnightTower Wrote:  Boy, if only Boise had a kicker, they might have had a very good chance of going to the Champ Game.

They aren't out of it yet. If Georgia wins the SEC, Boise has to be strongly considered for the title game.

Clemson plays So Carolina next week which could give them a 2nd loss, then they play VT in the ACC title game. If Clemson wins that gives VT a 2nd loss.

OK St play OK, if OK wins then OK St has a 2nd loss.

No Big 10 or BE teams have less than 3 losses.

USC knocked Oregon out of national title game consideration last week and Notre Dame could do the same to Stanford this week. This is the most significant game Notre Dame has played in in years and should be a source of great motivation to the Irish.

Yep alot has to happen for Boise to get in but it's not impossible.