(11-16-2011 05:26 PM)PirateMarv Wrote: You don't need an inside to see that the Big East expansion plan is probably DOA. Hell, an outside source (the Big 12) has been saying the same thing for the last couple of weeks.
According to my sources the plan is still on only minus some obvious choices and with the addition of some not so obvious choices.
That's why San Diego State is being increasingly mentioned as "in the mix."
Yeah, San Diego State is in the Alliance; which is where the Big East is probably going as well.
Go read the Big East boards. No matter what happens, they will never ever ever join CUSA or the Alliance. Heck, some of the posters over there are about to have a snot slinging hissy fit over some CUSA schools possibly joining the conference.
Wish all the FB teams well going as Indies, especially the old CUSA schools.
Actually, if some of the ones throwing hissy fits would volunteer ro leave and be replaced by the top schools in C-USA, it would considerably help the Big East.
(11-16-2011 08:35 PM)NoQuarter08 Wrote: UpStream.....I would have replaced Nova for UCF in the "IN" alignment.
Why all the hate for UCF from ECU and USM fans? Of all the teams in the expansion discussion they make the most sense.
1. A genuine rival for USF.
2. Easy travel.
3. A potential road trip destination.
4. A possibility for a Florida game every year for recruiting purposes.
To be more clear, my sources tell me that things may turn out different than originally planned if things happen unexpectedly. Right now, the invitees may not be the usual suspects if things go in another direction. Possibly at least one school, maybe more, are thinking things differently - which may open up additional opportunities for different schools. However, it may end up being more mundane than conventional wisdom is predicting. Again, the biggest challenge will be determining which schools will be replacement schools and which schools will be expansion targets. If they invite all schools at once, we may never know which is which. However, if the BE elects to stagger their invites, don't be surprised if the expansion candidates are brought in first while the replacement candidates come in later. It will be interesting to watch all of this unfold.
(11-16-2011 08:57 PM)miko33 Wrote: To be more clear, my sources tell me that things may turn out different than originally planned if things happen unexpectedly. Right now, the invitees may not be the usual suspects if things go in another direction. Possibly at least one school, maybe more, are thinking things differently - which may open up additional opportunities for different schools. However, it may end up being more mundane than conventional wisdom is predicting. Again, the biggest challenge will be determining which schools will be replacement schools and which schools will be expansion targets. If they invite all schools at once, we may never know which is which. However, if the BE elects to stagger their invites, don't be surprised if the expansion candidates are brought in first while the replacement candidates come in later. It will be interesting to watch all of this unfold.
(11-16-2011 03:49 PM)miko33 Wrote: I heard from an inside source that the BE expansion plan may not be going exactly as planned. Originally, they had a plan that they were going to execute in order to get their target teams. However, one (or more) of the teams has either caught a case of cold feet or is trying to negotiate some stipulations that weren't originally expected or thought of before. Also, it appears that other expansion candidates are coming on stronger than originally thought, and the BE leadership needs to take a step back and rethink their assumptions. At the end of the day, don't be surprised if the official invites are to schools that were considered as common sense adds. However, don't be surprised if one or more schools are very different than originally thought.
One thing is certain, the BE is planning on inviting schools to the conference, but what may never be cleared up is which schools were the replacement schools and which schools were the expansion targets. That's all I have right now.
lol @ another patented "miko-ism"
But why do people keep falling for them?
Wrong. I don't make things up. This is the latest scoop that I got on what is going on with the BE so I thought I'd share. It's sad when a well respected poster is called out by a "noob"...
Which exactly are u saying are "replacement" candidates? By georaphy/market for lost schools? .... Vs. new markets/BCS helpers being "expansion" candidates?
(11-16-2011 08:57 PM)miko33 Wrote: To be more clear, my sources tell me that things may turn out different than originally planned if things happen unexpectedly. Right now, the invitees may not be the usual suspects if things go in another direction. Possibly at least one school, maybe more, are thinking things differently - which may open up additional opportunities for different schools. However, it may end up being more mundane than conventional wisdom is predicting. Again, the biggest challenge will be determining which schools will be replacement schools and which schools will be expansion targets. If they invite all schools at once, we may never know which is which. However, if the BE elects to stagger their invites, don't be surprised if the expansion candidates are brought in first while the replacement candidates come in later. It will be interesting to watch all of this unfold.
How specifically non-specific of you.
Interesting how some people get their rocks off these days...
For the record I think a well-respected poster would not have to write a few topics that explains why he should leave for a while because everyone was being mean to him, calling him a troll, and hurting his feelings.
And I still say Boise stays out west, Rutgers leaves, and Louisville will make a deal with Satan that gets them in the Big 12.
(11-16-2011 05:26 PM)PirateMarv Wrote: You don't need an inside to see that the Big East expansion plan is probably DOA. Hell, an outside source (the Big 12) has been saying the same thing for the last couple of weeks.
According to my sources the plan is still on only minus some obvious choices and with the addition of some not so obvious choices.
That's why San Diego State is being increasingly mentioned as "in the mix."
Yeah, San Diego State is in the Alliance; which is where the Big East is probably going as well.
Go read the Big East boards. No matter what happens, they will never ever ever join CUSA or the Alliance. Heck, some of the posters over there are about to have a snot slinging hissy fit over some CUSA schools possibly joining the conference.
What are you whining about? How are a pack of damn CUSA schools having a hissy fit about being in a conference with a bunch of CUSA schools? Hello, the Big East is CUSA, a former FCS program (UConn); and Rutgers, which is one of the worst DI programs ever.
(11-16-2011 08:57 PM)miko33 Wrote: To be more clear, my sources tell me that things may turn out different than originally planned if things happen unexpectedly. Right now, the invitees may not be the usual suspects if things go in another direction. Possibly at least one school, maybe more, are thinking things differently - which may open up additional opportunities for different schools. However, it may end up being more mundane than conventional wisdom is predicting. Again, the biggest challenge will be determining which schools will be replacement schools and which schools will be expansion targets. If they invite all schools at once, we may never know which is which. However, if the BE elects to stagger their invites, don't be surprised if the expansion candidates are brought in first while the replacement candidates come in later. It will be interesting to watch all of this unfold.
How specifically non-specific of you.
Interesting how some people get their rocks off these days...
If you don't like reading insider info, then don't bother reading it. I don't understand the obsession some people have with trying to tear down others who are doing their best to further discussion about expansion and realignment. I guess it's too much for some people to be civil and courteous to others. Sometimes I put too much faith in mankind.
(11-16-2011 08:35 PM)NoQuarter08 Wrote: UpStream.....I would have replaced Nova for UCF in the "IN" alignment.
Why all the hate for UCF from ECU and USM fans? Of all the teams in the expansion discussion they make the most sense.
1. A genuine rival for USF.
2. Easy travel.
3. A potential road trip destination.
4. A possibility for a Florida game every year for recruiting purposes.
If you've watched 8 schools leave you behind in CUSA you'd be frustrated too. By far the main reason we get left out is because of something we have absolutely ZERO control over. I'll never understand why the BE added Marquette and DePaul. They could have added 2 football schools back then and been a much more solid conference.
miko....if you actually know something why not say it? It's not like your first name is "Miko" and your last name is "33".....is it? Nobody will know...c'mon man.
Maybe your words rings true maybe you are just having a little fun here Miko but you certainly know how to make a splash here. As much as some folks may disbelieve your words, they certainly love to post in your threads.
(11-16-2011 08:57 PM)miko33 Wrote: To be more clear, my sources tell me that things may turn out different than originally planned if things happen unexpectedly. Right now, the invitees may not be the usual suspects if things go in another direction. Possibly at least one school, maybe more, are thinking things differently - which may open up additional opportunities for different schools. However, it may end up being more mundane than conventional wisdom is predicting. Again, the biggest challenge will be determining which schools will be replacement schools and which schools will be expansion targets. If they invite all schools at once, we may never know which is which. However, if the BE elects to stagger their invites, don't be surprised if the expansion candidates are brought in first while the replacement candidates come in later. It will be interesting to watch all of this unfold.
How specifically non-specific of you.
Interesting how some people get their rocks off these days...
If you don't like reading insider info, then don't bother reading it. I don't understand the obsession some people have with trying to tear down others who are doing their best to further discussion about expansion and realignment. I guess it's too much for some people to be civil and courteous to others. Sometimes I put too much faith in mankind.
Hey Thanks Milko! That's great information as usual
(11-16-2011 08:35 PM)NoQuarter08 Wrote: UpStream.....I would have replaced Nova for UCF in the "IN" alignment.
Why all the hate for UCF from ECU and USM fans? Of all the teams in the expansion discussion they make the most sense.
1. A genuine rival for USF.
2. Easy travel.
3. A potential road trip destination.
4. A possibility for a Florida game every year for recruiting purposes.
If you've watched 8 schools leave you behind in CUSA you'd be frustrated too. By far the main reason we get left out is because of something we have absolutely ZERO control over. I'll never understand why the BE added Marquette and DePaul. They could have added 2 football schools back then and been a much more solid conference.
I agree with you 100% about Marquette and DePaul. They should have added Memphis and UCF instead. I feel bad for ECU because they always seem to be the first runner up come expansion time. If ECU had better basketball OR availabilty of non stop jet airline access they would be in by now.
I can't get any more specific than I already have for fear of outing my source. Fortunately, I've worded my posts carefully enough to "spill the beans", so to speak, without incriminating anyone specifically. The clues are there, and I couldn't make it any clearer than I already have. All I can do is say "your welcome".
