The Knight Time Wrote:

USFMike Wrote:

The Knight Time Wrote:Well......

Currently the "Tangerine" bowl is a joke.  They usually take a Big 12 team that squeeked in with a 6-6 record (Kansas) and their fans usually show up with about 2,000 which makes for a joke of an atmopshere.  The ACC school brings alot.

UCF has a CUSA tie, the ENTIRE conference is regional, and UCF has been very active in helping with and promoting the bowl in the past which won't be over looked in the future.

On the flip side the Outback Bowl absolutely blows up every year and is the biggest thing in Tampa.  Every hotel is packed, the Big 10 and SEC teams have fans that travel in the MASSES and they stay for atleast a week giving huge revenue.  I know this for a fact having seen nonstop Badger or Michigan fans at Clearwater Beach for 5 days straight.

Seeing that USF is a fairly new program with no bowl experience and an average fan base, I would -highly- doubt that they could muster any pursasion over the OutBack jugernaught that they currently have every New Year's Day. 

My 2 cents, of course.

wow, this is rich. you honestly expect them to take a non champion c-usa team versus a big east member, because ucf has helped them in the past? didn't your school just give a big F.U. to the citrus bowl by declaring your intention of building an on campus stadium? compared with the atmosphere you're going to generate by bringing in a utep team the previous atmosphere is going to feel like the rose bowl. i won't even touch the "regional" comment you made. why are you here anyways, the big east isn't going to be calling anytime soon with that doughnut of a season bringing our conference average down.

as far as the outback is concerned, the bottom line is if the gator takes the big 10 #2 or 3 either the citrus or outback will have an opening. a #2 big east/notre dame sounds a bit more attractive than a #4 big ten team, we'll see how it all shapes out. and as much as you don't want to believe it, usf does have some clout with the outback (CEO being a major donor), we play in raymond james, and we have very strong backing within the tampa community (all of which wasn't lost when the big east did their homework on our program). i'm not saying it would be the only reason but as sure as hell won't hurt the big east's chances and its a hell of a lot more believeable than you carrying a bowl for c-usa, once again win a game before thinking about bowls. :wave:

You're calling my comments funny yet you honestly think little USF will knock off a Big 10 or SEC spot. Right :rolleyes:

As for your UTEP comment, I guess you don't realize that they brought 18,000 fans to their bowl game last year and averaged 45,000 fans a game at home. That's roughly 25,000 more than your USF.

And, in case you forgot, Syracuse didn't exactly excite the bowl reps last year in ORlando by getting pummeled by an average GT team. Champs Sports would be MORE than happy to bring in a Southern Miss, Memphis, Marshall, UTEP, ECU, or UCF all of whom would bring lots of fans.

Hey Knightline or whatever your name is. In case you have already forgoten, UCF has been pummeled by everyone they have played for the last 15 or 17 games(its been so many losses noone can keep up) including Buffalo. You are the least qualified person on this board to judge whether anyone has been pummeled or not. Then again your team has had plenty of experience getting pummeled, so I geuss that makes you the most qualified. Nevermind. :laugh:

The Knight Time Wrote:You're calling my comments funny yet you honestly think little USF will knock off a Big 10 or SEC spot. Right :rolleyes:

And, in case you forgot, Syracuse didn't exactly excite the bowl reps last year in ORlando by getting pummeled by an average GT team. Champs Sports would be MORE than happy to bring in a Southern Miss, Memphis, Marshall, UTEP, ECU, or UCF all of whom would bring lots of fans.

go back and read my post i never said usf would be the primary reason why we would get the outback, i said it couldn't hurt. if anything the chance to get notre dame would be slightly more appealing than getting the #4 big ten team, but i am in agreement with you that the outback has been successful, however if the #3 team in the big ten goes to the gator, they may have to look elsewhere for other options.

the guy in charge of the champs bowl was quoted after the game as saying he was very happy with the big east, even some of your own fans said the big east has the upper hand. whether the champs bowl would prefer cusa is an opinion not a fact. one thing is for certain top to bottom both of our conferences have work to do as far as travelling to bowls. hopefully they up the payout and move the date, it would be a great bowl to have for either usf or ucf.

have a drink Mark, I was just pulling your chain. Actually, if you offer them your #2 team you might get that bowl. There are more than enough bowls for everyone. I'd like to see a CUSA vs Big East Independence bowl. There is a good chance that could happen.

A usually realible poster was on the WVU board this morning and said that while the BE and the Gator bowl are no longer in negotations, ND and the Gator bowl still are....I have no idea what kind of deal or what kind of access ND would get (probably something similar to what ND has with the cotton bowl now) but thought I wold let y'all know......not suprised at all to hear something like this



Jackson

Jackson1011 Wrote:A usually realible poster was on the WVU board this morning and said that while the BE and the Gator bowl are no longer in negotations, ND and the Gator bowl still are....I have no idea what kind of deal or what kind of access ND would get (probably something similar to what ND has with the cotton bowl now) but thought I wold let y'all know......not suprised at all to hear something like this



Jackson

ND and the Gator Bowl can have each other and live happily ever after. I just don't want Tranghese to danggle the ND carrot in front of anymore potential BE bowls. In my opinion, they should either want to take a Big East team or they don't. None of this, "You can have ND every other year and on the first Saturday of every third bowl season which isn't an odd-numbered year that ends with a 2". :rolleyes:

Cincy took 10.0m twice to the Motor City Bowl. Give us a good date like Motor City and we will get peopel there...Other CUSA bowls gave us less than 10 days to travel and played mid-week b-4 Xmas
a very tough sell against Sunbelt type teams...

Murph1 Wrote:

Jackson1011 Wrote:A usually realible poster was on the WVU board this morning and said that while the BE and the Gator bowl are no longer in negotations, ND and the Gator bowl still are....I have no idea what kind of deal or what kind of access ND would get (probably something similar to what ND has with the cotton bowl now) but thought I wold let y'all know......not suprised at all to hear something like this



                                                                Jackson

ND and the Gator Bowl can have each other and live happily ever after. I just don't want Tranghese to danggle the ND carrot in front of anymore potential BE bowls. In my opinion, they should either want to take a Big East team or they don't. None of this, "You can have ND every other year and on the first Saturday of every third bowl season which isn't an odd-numbered year that ends with a 2". :rolleyes:

:wave:

cuseroc Wrote:

The Knight Time Wrote:

USFMike Wrote:

The Knight Time Wrote:Well......

Currently the "Tangerine" bowl is a joke.  They usually take a Big 12 team that squeeked in with a 6-6 record (Kansas) and their fans usually show up with about 2,000 which makes for a joke of an atmopshere.  The ACC school brings alot.

UCF has a CUSA tie, the ENTIRE conference is regional, and UCF has been very active in helping with and promoting the bowl in the past which won't be over looked in the future.

On the flip side the Outback Bowl absolutely blows up every year and is the biggest thing in Tampa.  Every hotel is packed, the Big 10 and SEC teams have fans that travel in the MASSES and they stay for atleast a week giving huge revenue.  I know this for a fact having seen nonstop Badger or Michigan fans at Clearwater Beach for 5 days straight.

Seeing that USF is a fairly new program with no bowl experience and an average fan base, I would -highly- doubt that they could muster any pursasion over the OutBack jugernaught that they currently have every New Year's Day. 

My 2 cents, of course.

wow, this is rich. you honestly expect them to take a non champion c-usa team versus a big east member, because ucf has helped them in the past? didn't your school just give a big F.U. to the citrus bowl by declaring your intention of building an on campus stadium? compared with the atmosphere you're going to generate by bringing in a utep team the previous atmosphere is going to feel like the rose bowl. i won't even touch the "regional" comment you made. why are you here anyways, the big east isn't going to be calling anytime soon with that doughnut of a season bringing our conference average down.

as far as the outback is concerned, the bottom line is if the gator takes the big 10 #2 or 3 either the citrus or outback will have an opening. a #2 big east/notre dame sounds a bit more attractive than a #4 big ten team, we'll see how it all shapes out. and as much as you don't want to believe it, usf does have some clout with the outback (CEO being a major donor), we play in raymond james, and we have very strong backing within the tampa community (all of which wasn't lost when the big east did their homework on our program). i'm not saying it would be the only reason but as sure as hell won't hurt the big east's chances and its a hell of a lot more believeable than you carrying a bowl for c-usa, once again win a game before thinking about bowls. :wave:

You're calling my comments funny yet you honestly think little USF will knock off a Big 10 or SEC spot. Right :rolleyes:

As for your UTEP comment, I guess you don't realize that they brought 18,000 fans to their bowl game last year and averaged 45,000 fans a game at home. That's roughly 25,000 more than your USF.

And, in case you forgot, Syracuse didn't exactly excite the bowl reps last year in ORlando by getting pummeled by an average GT team. Champs Sports would be MORE than happy to bring in a Southern Miss, Memphis, Marshall, UTEP, ECU, or UCF all of whom would bring lots of fans.

Hey Knightline or whatever your name is. In case you have already forgoten, UCF has been pummeled by everyone they have played for the last 15 or 17 games(its been so many losses noone can keep up) including Buffalo. You are the least qualified person on this board to judge whether anyone has been pummeled or not. Then again your team has had plenty of experience getting pummeled, so I geuss that makes you the most qualified. Nevermind. :laugh:

Gee, I thought we were discussing bowls instead of starting pissing matches :rolleyes:

Grow up.

TexanMark Wrote:Fact: You hate the Big East. You have admitted it. Why do you come over here?

ignore works great

The Knight Time Wrote:

cuseroc Wrote:

The Knight Time Wrote:

USFMike Wrote:

The Knight Time Wrote:Well......

Currently the "Tangerine" bowl is a joke.  They usually take a Big 12 team that squeeked in with a 6-6 record (Kansas) and their fans usually show up with about 2,000 which makes for a joke of an atmopshere.  The ACC school brings alot.

UCF has a CUSA tie, the ENTIRE conference is regional, and UCF has been very active in helping with and promoting the bowl in the past which won't be over looked in the future.

On the flip side the Outback Bowl absolutely blows up every year and is the biggest thing in Tampa.  Every hotel is packed, the Big 10 and SEC teams have fans that travel in the MASSES and they stay for atleast a week giving huge revenue.  I know this for a fact having seen nonstop Badger or Michigan fans at Clearwater Beach for 5 days straight.

Seeing that USF is a fairly new program with no bowl experience and an average fan base, I would -highly- doubt that they could muster any pursasion over the OutBack jugernaught that they currently have every New Year's Day. 

My 2 cents, of course.

wow, this is rich. you honestly expect them to take a non champion c-usa team versus a big east member, because ucf has helped them in the past? didn't your school just give a big F.U. to the citrus bowl by declaring your intention of building an on campus stadium? compared with the atmosphere you're going to generate by bringing in a utep team the previous atmosphere is going to feel like the rose bowl. i won't even touch the "regional" comment you made. why are you here anyways, the big east isn't going to be calling anytime soon with that doughnut of a season bringing our conference average down.

as far as the outback is concerned, the bottom line is if the gator takes the big 10 #2 or 3 either the citrus or outback will have an opening. a #2 big east/notre dame sounds a bit more attractive than a #4 big ten team, we'll see how it all shapes out. and as much as you don't want to believe it, usf does have some clout with the outback (CEO being a major donor), we play in raymond james, and we have very strong backing within the tampa community (all of which wasn't lost when the big east did their homework on our program). i'm not saying it would be the only reason but as sure as hell won't hurt the big east's chances and its a hell of a lot more believeable than you carrying a bowl for c-usa, once again win a game before thinking about bowls. :wave:

You're calling my comments funny yet you honestly think little USF will knock off a Big 10 or SEC spot. Right :rolleyes:

As for your UTEP comment, I guess you don't realize that they brought 18,000 fans to their bowl game last year and averaged 45,000 fans a game at home. That's roughly 25,000 more than your USF.

And, in case you forgot, Syracuse didn't exactly excite the bowl reps last year in ORlando by getting pummeled by an average GT team. Champs Sports would be MORE than happy to bring in a Southern Miss, Memphis, Marshall, UTEP, ECU, or UCF all of whom would bring lots of fans.

Hey Knightline or whatever your name is. In case you have already forgoten, UCF has been pummeled by everyone they have played for the last 15 or 17 games(its been so many losses noone can keep up) including Buffalo. You are the least qualified person on this board to judge whether anyone has been pummeled or not. Then again your team has had plenty of experience getting pummeled, so I geuss that makes you the most qualified. Nevermind. :laugh:

Gee, I thought we were discussing bowls instead of starting pissing matches :rolleyes:

Grow up.

I like how some C-USA fans come over to the Big East board, make asses of themselves, and then act like Big East fans are acting crazy. Do everybody a favor and take your own advice. Grow up and stop going to another conference's board and downgrading them and then wondering why they think you're acting like a *******.

Cat's_Claw Wrote:I like how some C-USA fans come over to the Big East board, make asses of themselves, and then act like Big East fans are acting crazy.

Yes - that is rather amusing, considering how bent out of shape they get when a Big East poster points out some of their BS on their boards. It's hysterical :)

I pointed out that C-USA would never be taken seriously as a league if all of their member institutions are publicly declaring their wishes to be ELSEWHERE as many in that league have done in recent years.... and the thread was deleted .

wvucrazed Wrote:

Cat's_Claw Wrote:I like how some C-USA fans come over to the Big East board, make asses of themselves, and then act like Big East fans are acting crazy.

Yes - that is rather amusing, considering how bent out of shape they get when a Big East poster points out some of their BS on their boards. It's hysterical :)

I pointed out that C-USA would never be taken seriously as a league if all of their member institutions are publicly declaring their wishes to be ELSEWHERE as many in that league have done in recent years.... and the thread was deleted .

And, to add to the irony, I have never gone over to the C-USA board and trashed the conference. Yet, I have had some people come over to the C-USA board talking about how I'm trashing them and conference and such. And then they say the same about the rest of the Big East fans. Well, how DO you expect Big East fans to re-act when they have been ripped for almost 2 years?

cuseroc Wrote:

TexanMark Wrote:

TopCoog Wrote:More specifically Mark they probably want two teams from the Big Five confrences, wouldn't you say?

You know I've been nice to you--probably too nice.

Fact: You hate the Big East. You have admitted it. Why do you come over here?

Fact: Syracuse brought alot more fans than the last Big 12 rep in 2003 and a much higher FB profile.

Fact: Orlando is a haven for transplanted Northeasterners.

Fact: Syracuse and the Big East are in the BCS. Houston isn't and doesn't come close to BCS status and will never because of UT and TAMU.

Dont forget about the fact that nobody in Houston cares about the University of Houston.

Mark,
That is the most accurate statement in this thread. My daughter attends grad school there. Cougar High (as the locals call it) can't draw flies to its athletic events. Sad but true.
CJ

Cat's_Claw Wrote:

wvucrazed Wrote:

Cat's_Claw Wrote:I like how some C-USA fans come over to the Big East board, make asses of themselves, and then act like Big East fans are acting crazy.

Yes - that is rather amusing, considering how bent out of shape they get when a Big East poster points out some of their BS on their boards. It's hysterical :)

I pointed out that C-USA would never be taken seriously as a league if all of their member institutions are publicly declaring their wishes to be ELSEWHERE as many in that league have done in recent years.... and the thread was deleted .

And, to add to the irony, I have never gone over to the C-USA board and trashed the conference. Yet, I have had some people come over to the C-USA board talking about how I'm trashing them and conference and such. And then they say the same about the rest of the Big East fans. Well, how DO you expect Big East fans to re-act when they have been ripped for almost 2 years?

you know it wouldn't bother me if it were ECU, Southern Miss or Memphis fans that did it. Fortunately most of them have too much class for that. Then you have the entire UCF fan base (1 poster :laugh:) that shows up every time there is something negative to discuss about the Big East. Then again I guess it beats the hell out of bragging about beating Stetson or Troy State in some meaningless spring sport. :D
CJ

The Knight Time Wrote:

cuseroc Wrote:

The Knight Time Wrote:

USFMike Wrote:

The Knight Time Wrote:Well......

Currently the "Tangerine" bowl is a joke.  They usually take a Big 12 team that squeeked in with a 6-6 record (Kansas) and their fans usually show up with about 2,000 which makes for a joke of an atmopshere.  The ACC school brings alot.

UCF has a CUSA tie, the ENTIRE conference is regional, and UCF has been very active in helping with and promoting the bowl in the past which won't be over looked in the future.

On the flip side the Outback Bowl absolutely blows up every year and is the biggest thing in Tampa.  Every hotel is packed, the Big 10 and SEC teams have fans that travel in the MASSES and they stay for atleast a week giving huge revenue.  I know this for a fact having seen nonstop Badger or Michigan fans at Clearwater Beach for 5 days straight.

Seeing that USF is a fairly new program with no bowl experience and an average fan base, I would -highly- doubt that they could muster any pursasion over the OutBack jugernaught that they currently have every New Year's Day. 

My 2 cents, of course.

wow, this is rich. you honestly expect them to take a non champion c-usa team versus a big east member, because ucf has helped them in the past? didn't your school just give a big F.U. to the citrus bowl by declaring your intention of building an on campus stadium? compared with the atmosphere you're going to generate by bringing in a utep team the previous atmosphere is going to feel like the rose bowl. i won't even touch the "regional" comment you made. why are you here anyways, the big east isn't going to be calling anytime soon with that doughnut of a season bringing our conference average down.

as far as the outback is concerned, the bottom line is if the gator takes the big 10 #2 or 3 either the citrus or outback will have an opening. a #2 big east/notre dame sounds a bit more attractive than a #4 big ten team, we'll see how it all shapes out. and as much as you don't want to believe it, usf does have some clout with the outback (CEO being a major donor), we play in raymond james, and we have very strong backing within the tampa community (all of which wasn't lost when the big east did their homework on our program). i'm not saying it would be the only reason but as sure as hell won't hurt the big east's chances and its a hell of a lot more believeable than you carrying a bowl for c-usa, once again win a game before thinking about bowls. :wave:

You're calling my comments funny yet you honestly think little USF will knock off a Big 10 or SEC spot. Right :rolleyes:

As for your UTEP comment, I guess you don't realize that they brought 18,000 fans to their bowl game last year and averaged 45,000 fans a game at home. That's roughly 25,000 more than your USF.

And, in case you forgot, Syracuse didn't exactly excite the bowl reps last year in ORlando by getting pummeled by an average GT team. Champs Sports would be MORE than happy to bring in a Southern Miss, Memphis, Marshall, UTEP, ECU, or UCF all of whom would bring lots of fans.

Hey Knightline or whatever your name is. In case you have already forgoten, UCF has been pummeled by everyone they have played for the last 15 or 17 games(its been so many losses noone can keep up) including Buffalo. You are the least qualified person on this board to judge whether anyone has been pummeled or not. Then again your team has had plenty of experience getting pummeled, so I geuss that makes you the most qualified. Nevermind. :laugh:

Gee, I thought we were discussing bowls instead of starting pissing matches :rolleyes:

Grow up.

Yeah, we were until you started to down a fellow BE institution. I see that Grow up is your best response, because you know what I said is true. Because I stated a few facts about your institution and there very unique circumstances, you tell me to grow up. If you dont like anyone bringing up your schools shortcomings, then dont start on anyone else's. Its quite obvious that your school has alot more shortcomings than any school in the BE, the whole country for that matter. That includes Buffalo, Army and ECU. At least they have won some games in the past year.

Quote:ND and the Gator Bowl can have each other and live happily ever after. I just don't want Tranghese to danggle the ND carrot in front of anymore potential BE bowls. In my opinion, they should either want to take a Big East team or they don't. None of this, "You can have ND every other year and on the first Saturday of every third bowl season which isn't an odd-numbered year that ends with a 2".

-- Totally agree....now is the pefect time to split ways with the Irish as far as bowls are concerned....we already lost the Gator and will probably lose the Insight.com as well...but that's alright...see if we can hook on with the all star champs bowl and maybe with the Indpendence bowl as top coog was saying the other day....right now we have to have an eye on where this league is going to be 10yrs from now and not worried so much about next yr

-- still think that Memphis and the Liberty bowl are now a lot more attracitve come 2010


Jackson

CardinalJim Wrote:you know it wouldn't bother me if it were ECU, Southern Miss or Memphis fans that did it. Fortunately most of them have too much class for that. Then you have the entire UCF fan base (1 poster :laugh:) that shows up every time there is something negative to discuss about the Big East. Then again I guess it beats the hell out of bragging about beating Stetson or Troy State in some meaningless spring sport. :D
CJ

LOL, so true. ECU, Memphis fans are fine. Southern Miss fans have been fine as well, they talk some trash but it's pretty much cool trash, they're like that, which is why I will miss having them as fans in a conference in football. But Central Florida fans have been busting the Big East and Cincinnati's @ss as of late, I mean what have THEY done!?

Jackson1011 Wrote:

Quote:ND and the Gator Bowl can have each other and live happily ever after. I just don't want Tranghese to danggle the ND carrot in front of anymore potential BE bowls. In my opinion, they should either want to take a Big East team or they don't. None of this, "You can have ND every other year and on the first Saturday of every third bowl season which isn't an odd-numbered year that ends with a 2".

-- Totally agree....now is the pefect time to split ways with the Irish as far as bowls are concerned....we already lost the Gator and will probably lose the Insight.com as well...but that's alright...see if we can hook on with the all star champs bowl and maybe with the Indpendence bowl as top coog was saying the other day....right now we have to have an eye on where this league is going to be 10yrs from now and not worried so much about next yr

-- still think that Memphis and the Liberty bowl are now a lot more attracitve come 2010


Jackson

Exactly. I think picking up the Champs Bowl and Independence Bowl would be great acquisitions, especially getting the Champs Bowl and upgrading its status to maybe making it attractive enough to be the Big East's #2 bowl, especially with a larger payout and potential move to New Year's. Of course, getting the Outback Bowl and making it the Big East's #2 bowl would solve the problem, but I don't know about our chances of doing that.

CardinalJim Wrote:Fortunately most of them have too much class for that. Then you have the entire UCF fan base (1 poster :laugh:) that shows up every time there is something negative to discuss about the Big East. Then again I guess it beats the hell out of bragging about beating Stetson or Troy State in some meaningless spring sport. :D
CJ

ahh yes... ucf fans, where would we be without them. from their unexplained deep seated hatred for usf to their delusion that we our somehow rivals to their overpaid/fat/lying/player-beating coach to their doughnut of a season. every year they bring so much joy and amusement to us usf fans as we sit back and laugh at their misfortune, as i'm sure all of you will in time, as you slowly get to know them.

actually, so far the knights that come and try to flame these boards have been quite tame and for their standards reasonable. here's a tip for everyone in the future if you ever come across a ucf blowhard that goes by the name of south tampa knight/STK/Sir Galahad just get up from your keyboard and walk away, much like the predator he will not attack unless your armed (trust me... it's for you and your family's own good )

and ucf fan... before you start with your predictable rant about how we haven't done anything, or how leavitt cheat's on his wife (allegedly), or how we only have murderers and thugs on our team, or how the big east is not going to retain its bid, or how getting a tourney bid via the A-sun is somehow an accomplishment, or how cusa is just a stepping stone to the acc... this is all in good fun and have a sense of humor about it, see you in september, cheers

USFMike Wrote:

CardinalJim Wrote:Fortunately most of them have too much class for that. Then you have the entire UCF fan base (1 poster :laugh:) that shows up every time there is something negative to discuss about the Big East. Then again I guess it beats the hell out of bragging about beating Stetson or Troy State in some meaningless spring sport. :D
CJ

ahh yes... ucf fans, where would we be without them. from their unexplained deep seated hatred for usf to their delusion that we our somehow rivals to their overpaid/fat/lying/player-beating coach to their doughnut of a season. every year they bring so much joy and amusement to us usf fans as we sit back and laugh at their misfortune, as i'm sure all of you will in time, as you slowly get to know them.

actually, so far the knights that come and try to flame these boards have been quite tame and for their standards reasonable. here's a tip for everyone in the future if you ever come across a ucf blowhard that goes by the name of south tampa knight/STK/Sir Galahad just get up from your keyboard and walk away, much like the predator he will not attack unless your armed (trust me... it's for you and your family's own good )

and ucf fan... before you start with your predictable rant about how we haven't done anything, or how leavitt cheat's on his wife (allegedly), or how we only have murderers and thugs on our team, or how the big east is not going to retain its bid, or how getting a tourney bid via the A-sun is somehow an accomplishment, or how cusa is just a stepping stone to the acc... this is all in good fun and have a sense of humor about it, see you in september, cheers

0-11 means nothing, and your idiotic statements about O'Leary are lame, yet expected from you. Tell me, does Jim Leavitt have a national coach of the year trophy on his desk? O'Leary does.

UCF wouldn't care about USF if the green and yellow fans to the west didn't portray themselves as the second coming of Miami. Your an average program with an average fan base. When the blowhards on the message boards realize this, you'll be better off.

Besides, just a score will be needed after we beat you next year
:wave: