donavanb Wrote:

Quote: We had one opportunity for a good home and home to upgrade our schedule, and instead we get Marshall. We have to have 7 home games, so now how are we going to do a home and home?

This from wvucrazed, can you answer a question I have with this argument? You say you had one opportunity but then say you wanted both a home and home with a top opponent to upgrade your schedule and team that come to your place every year to make sure you have 7 home games. So that is 2 different games, which one did this game with MU mess up in your opinion? Because everytime I have seen this argument it is made as if the MU agreement has messed up both, but that is impossible.

because of Marshall it makes it difficult for us to have BOTH of the things we need: guarantee games, and also a home and home series w/ a big name BCS team. We essentially have to choose one or the other.

Thanks to the MU series, if we do the home and home series we will have no room for a guarantee, and if we do a guarantee we won't have room for the home and home.

I'm thinking that the ECU series will probably have to end when it is completed, I don't know when that will be however.

for what its worth, what i'm hearing is that WVU will likely buy out some combination of Ball State, Buffalo and/or Villanova. Villanova is the least likely because they are in the BE, and the BE wants that game to take place to help Nova. But it appears that WVU will likely take the route of signing w/ a BCS team home and home, and try to upgrade the schedule, and thereby having only 6 home games some years.

MHSCard Wrote:Sounds alot like Louisville vs. Kentucky to me.  But don't worry to much Eers.  Kentucky has always been bad, it wasn't the Louisville series that killed them despite what they say, it was the SEC east that killed them.  Just don't lose too much and lose recruits and you will be fine.

Too me this seems like a game that should always have been played.

This is nothing like the Louisville/Kentucky series. We agreed to play Kentucky every season at commonwealth until we built a new stadium. We also had much more success (Fiesta Bowl and Liberty Bowl Championships coming into the series) than marshall has coming into the series with WVU and were a high profile school winning national titles in the state sport (basketball). We were already arch rivals with Kentucky. WVU would rather have nothing to do with marshall for a myriad of reasons all of which are understandable imo.

Also Kentucky never had a program to be killed. If anything killed Kentucky football it has been the rampent cheating.

wvucrazed Wrote:

donavanb Wrote:

Quote: We had one opportunity for a good home and home to upgrade our schedule, and instead we get Marshall. We have to have 7 home games, so now how are we going to do a home and home?

This from wvucrazed, can you answer a question I have with this argument? You say you had one opportunity but then say you wanted both a home and home with a top opponent to upgrade your schedule and team that come to your place every year to make sure you have 7 home games. So that is 2 different games, which one did this game with MU mess up in your opinion? Because everytime I have seen this argument it is made as if the MU agreement has messed up both, but that is impossible.

because of Marshall it makes it difficult for us to have BOTH of the things we need: guarantee games, and also a home and home series w/ a big name BCS team. We essentially have to choose one or the other.

Thanks to the MU series, if we do the home and home series we will have no room for a guarantee, and if we do a guarantee we won't have room for the home and home.

I'm thinking that the ECU series will probably have to end when it is completed, I don't know when that will be however

There are what now 8 Big East teams, that equals 7 games a year and now with 12 game rule you have 5 out of conference games to schedule, I would think you have plenty of opportunity to set it up how you would like.

However you still missed my point. This series was done because of the new 12 game rule so you would have to have chosen one or the other anyway. Looks to me like it is a good compromise, WVU gets more home games that MU but with a quality opponent, I know that we probably would disagree on the word quality mentioned with MU, but they better than most "guarantee" teams you could sign, but obviously not as good as the top teams. But I question if you could have signed those top teams with 1 for 1's.

donavanb Wrote:

wvucrazed Wrote:

donavanb Wrote:

Quote: We had one opportunity for a good home and home to upgrade our schedule, and instead we get Marshall. We have to have 7 home games, so now how are we going to do a home and home?

This from wvucrazed, can you answer a question I have with this argument? You say you had one opportunity but then say you wanted both a home and home with a top opponent to upgrade your schedule and team that come to your place every year to make sure you have 7 home games. So that is 2 different games, which one did this game with MU mess up in your opinion? Because everytime I have seen this argument it is made as if the MU agreement has messed up both, but that is impossible.

because of Marshall it makes it difficult for us to have BOTH of the things we need: guarantee games, and also a home and home series w/ a big name BCS team. We essentially have to choose one or the other.

Thanks to the MU series, if we do the home and home series we will have no room for a guarantee, and if we do a guarantee we won't have room for the home and home.

I'm thinking that the ECU series will probably have to end when it is completed, I don't know when that will be however

There are what now 8 Big East teams, that equals 7 games a year and now with 12 game rule you have 5 out of conference games to schedule, I would think you have plenty of opportunity to set it up how you would like.

However you still missed my point. This series was done because of the new 12 game rule so you would have to have chosen one or the other anyway. Looks to me like it is a good compromise, WVU gets more home games that MU but with a quality opponent, I know that we probably would disagree on the word quality mentioned with MU, but they better than most "guarantee" teams you could sign, but obviously not as good as the top teams. But I question if you could have signed those top teams with 1 for 1's.

we already had the guarantee games scheduled. the 12th game gave us the opportunity to add a 1 and 1 w/ a BCS team. And yes, we can get bigtime BCS games 1 and 1. We have had Wisconsin, Ohio State, and Purdue in recent years as 1 and 1 series. Other BE schools routinely schedule 1 and 1's with "big name" BCS schools.

L-yes Wrote:We also had much more success (Fiesta Bowl and Liberty Bowl Championships coming into the series) than marshall has coming into the series with WVU

Don't even go there. :stupid:

L-yes Wrote:

MHSCard Wrote:Sounds alot like Louisville vs. Kentucky to me.   But don't worry to much Eers.  Kentucky has always been bad, it wasn't the Louisville series that killed them despite what they say, it was the SEC east that killed them.  Just don't lose too much and lose recruits and you will be fine.

Too me this seems like a game that should always have been played.

This is nothing like the Louisville/Kentucky series. We agreed to play Kentucky every season at commonwealth until we built a new stadium. We also had much more success (Fiesta Bowl and Liberty Bowl Championships coming into the series) than marshall has coming into the series with WVU and were a high profile school winning national titles in the state sport (basketball). We were already arch rivals with Kentucky. WVU would rather have nothing to do with marshall for a myriad of reasons all of which are understandable imo.

Also Kentucky never had a program to be killed. If anything killed Kentucky football it has been the rampent cheating.

well said.

Hypothetical question for UL fans:

It appears likely that Western Kentucky will be making the move to 1-A in the near future.

What would the reaction of the average UL fan be if the Governor of the state of Kentucky basically forced UL to play WKU with the same series that WVU is stuck with for MooooU, including at least 2 games in Bowling Green over the next 7 years?