I'd like to get some thoughts on some seemingly unbiased posters here. Troy, who has won five titles in a row, isn't having the greatest year, and the defense hasn't been good for a while (combination of injuries, graduation, starters not going to class, and coaching, etc...). We currently have the same HC and DC from all five titles, and an OC that called really good games last season. Through what yall have heard about Troy over the years, do you guys think it's time for new coordinators and/or a new head coach? Middle Tennessee is going through similar struggles as well. I personally think only time will tell. We could have a down year like LSU had in 2008, or we might really need new sparks on this team. I'd like your opinions.

And it's BLAME GAME TIME !

(11-06-2011 05:27 PM)MG61 Wrote:  And it's BLAME GAME TIME !

I personally think people should wait on blaming the coaches. There's a lot going on with this team non-coaching related. I'm inclined to give the team a pass for now, but if this continues next season we could be in real trouble.

Just curious though, why is it that every time a Troy fan posts a thread about Troy you have something negative to say? Not hatin, just curious man.

Not until the slide reaches 2 years or more IMHO.

EVERY team has a down year and Troy was certainly due one.

Trying to defense the Triple Option offense will cause you to look and sound like an idiot in front of a television camera. It ain't all Larry's fault. He had been befuddled by Navy' option offense for thirty minutes. Hell, I bet some of his defensive backs and linebackers weren't capable of speech at that point.

(11-06-2011 05:31 PM)gatadotcom Wrote:  Trying to defense the Triple Option offense will cause you to look and sound like an idiot in front of a television camera. It ain't all Larry's fault. He had been befuddled by Navy' option offense for thirty minutes. Hell, I bet some of his defensive backs and linebackers weren't capable of speech at that point.

Well, my question is more or less due to the constant negativity on our board over the last two months. The video was just a little fodder.

yeah GTT has been in meltdown mode for a while now. it's like Mad Max over there, I should know...I'm one of the cops.

Yea, you should follow the UNT path, fire Blakeny, and hire the Prattville High School coach.

(11-06-2011 05:59 PM)westcoastwolf Wrote:  Yea, you should follow the UNT path, fire Blakeny, and hire the Prattville High School coach.

I'm from and currently live in Prattville, so I know a good bit about the PHS program. the current coach is not as good as the guy that South hired away to be their DC. he just has a ton o' talent thanks to the reputation the school has for winning and producing scholarship athletes.

I don't think one bad year is justification fire any coach. In Blakely's case, since he built the program and has been there for so long, I do not think he leaves until he decides to. Same was true with Scnelly, who definitely outstayed his time.

I think Troy will recover with Blakely though, he is a good recruiter and has a record of producing giant killer teams.

What????

You guys want to fire a guy that took you to 5 bowl games over one bad season? It happens. Man up.

I would say that after what Blakney has accomplished that you guys would give him at least two or three years (enough recruiting classes to repair most any damage).

Loyalty to coaches who have had past success is a give-and-take game.

Give them time to have down years: that is a sign of growth if your program can just pick right back up from where it left off a couple years back.

I would know...O'Leary has brought us through so many ups and downs.

(11-06-2011 06:14 PM)Hilltopper2K Wrote:  What????

You guys want to fire a guy that took you to 5 bowl games over one bad season? It happens. Man up.

I would say that after what Blakney has accomplished that you guys would give him at least two or three years (enough recruiting classes to repair most any damage).

Not all of them, but a large amount of them though. I'm of the same mindset, at least of the head coach. No reason to get rid of Blakeney in my mind. There's a lot of LB haters over at gtt.

Like 2k said.....He deserves a pass for at least 2-3 seasons. LB has made your program...give him time to regroup.

I'm in the Blakeney camp. as far as I'm concerned, his job is secure until he decides to retire. he is a Legend.

Look.....you lost a lot of your top offensive weapons and you lost your top returning offensive weapons at wide receive at the beginning of the year. That throws you off alot. It has been a good run for Troy and this is just a down year during the overall improvement of the SBC. I think with everything that Blakney has done for Troy he has earned one bad year. I think ya'll will be just fine.

I would certainly keep him. He is Troy football. Remember NT fired their coach after dominating the conference. They are just now recovering.

Troy has lost key players to grades and injuries in receiving, O-line, defensive backfield and more. I can understand a drop-off in success.

But for several years (not just this one), coaching has been poor - especially when it came to game planning and adjustments. There just weren't any adjustments.

It might not be time for Blakeney to go (although at this point it might be time for an entire regime change), but the D coordinator has to go along with perhaps some other assistants. They are not getting the job done - and not just this year. Defense has been in a freefall for several years with no changes. We keep covering 7 yards off the receivers, getting beaten down the middle on bombs and now can't even cover the dive play (FIU) or option (Navy). In the past, Troy's offense was so productive, that Troy could give up 30 points and still win handily.

The bleeding has to stop.

Troy's spread offense is now run by lots of teams. The secret is out. It's time to do it better than anyone else or move onto something else.

I would also like to see coaching that can effectively motivate and teach players to stop making bonehead mistakes every game, stupid, thuggish penalties like out-of-bounds hits and more, and how to carry the ball without fumbling twice in a row in the red zone, and coaching that gets fire up once in a while and appears to care whether the game is won or lost. That goes for the players, too, who appear to be a dazed and uninterested. That's not the Troy players I remember.

Troy drove right down the field on Navy two consecutive times to start the game and gave the ball away both times. These dink passes are now covered and yet we still run them, even when it's third-and-10! What's a 5-yard pass going to get you when the receiver is double-covered, even if he does catch it?!

Yes, the talent is diminished, but the program is broken and either the head coach needs to right the ship immediately (he is too loyal has been very hesitant to fire assistants in the past), or we need an entire regime change.

If Troy isn't as talented as the Sun Belt teams it routinely dispatched for the last five seasons, then who is to blame? Coaches, perhaps? Why hasn't Troy been able to recruit the best players in the Sun Belt with some of the conference's best facilities, lots of TV appearances, a ring and a bowl game almost every year?

Oh, and while I'm at it, we need an athletic director who gives a fracking damn about the fans and considers them before stupidly changing Homecoming to a noon start for a stupid, low-ratings TV channel and costs thousands of people their weekend plans.

(11-06-2011 06:14 PM)Hilltopper2K Wrote:  What????

You guys want to fire a guy that took you to 5 bowl games over one bad season? It happens. Man up.

I would say that after what Blakney has accomplished that you guys would give him at least two or three years (enough recruiting classes to repair most any damage).

We have people wanting to fire all of the coaches and move back to 1-AA. Many of our fans are spoiled and expect championships every year. Bottom line is that there is plenty of blame to go around to players and coaches. However, we aren't nearly as talented as we have been in the past. Couple that along with a big improvement by many of the teams in the conference and you have a team that will struggle. I've most certainly made many of them mad over there. But, I will stick to my guns and support the players and coaches during the down time regardless of how long it lasts.

I think Troy should get rid of Blakeney so he won't whip our arses year in and year out.