...like 2 ships passing in the night and being obliquely aware of each other as we sail right by...

Pitt, Syracuse & WVU are contractually obligated to play a Big East schedule until 2014. There are no plans to release any of those teams early.

I think that is the realistic plan......no way anyone can leave for 2012....now as long as the SEC stays at 13 and Mizzou stays in the B12 one more season.....then everyone should be fine.

At that point.....you go to the negotiating table....and you work a price to leave one season early. Everybody is then happy. But this WVU leaving in 2012 is nonsense.

I just think 2013 makes sense for all parties. Why would the BE want to cut the pie 14/15 ways under the current contract? The BE in general would be losing $$$$.

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(11-03-2011 09:29 PM)SmallVoice Wrote:  Pitt, Syracuse & WVU are contractually obligated to play a Big East schedule until 2014. There are no plans to release any of those teams early.

lol...good luck selling that to the basketball schools that would have to sit out of the NCAA tournament while Cuse, Pitt, and WVU take their spots. It wont happen so people need to get off the soap box. The departing teams will leave as soon as the new members come in no matter what is said.

Definitely makes the most sense holding Pitt, WVU and Cuse till 2014 makes no sense but there's just no way for anyone to leave for next season.

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(11-03-2011 09:35 PM)The Brown Bull Wrote:  I think that is the realistic plan......no way anyone can leave for 2012....now as long as the SEC stays at 13 and Mizzou stays in the B12 one more season.....then everyone should be fine.

At that point.....you go to the negotiating table....and you work a price to leave one season early. Everybody is then happy. But this WVU leaving in 2012 is nonsense.

No problem for Mizzou here. I doubt Mizzou could pull it off that soon anyway. I kinda doubt WVU can coordinate a move this fast either. The SEC has had it all figured out for a long time. 13 and 14 team schedules... they planned for all contingencies. They didnt make a 13 team schedule because Mizzou wasnt in the SEC plans... they made it becasue they knew it would take a while. Less exit money for Mizzou in 2013. No lawsuits... Hey, if the Huskers can do it we can too. Everybody just needs to slow down a bit.

(11-03-2011 10:43 PM)brista21 Wrote:  Definitely makes the most sense holding Pitt, WVU and Cuse till 2014 makes no sense but there's just no way for anyone to leave for next season.

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If it makes no sense, then maybe they should have argued for that when the vote was taken to create such a wait time for exiting. It's a little late to be arguing the point now. It's what the rule is.

Until someone involved with WVU or the Big 12 says differently I'm still expecting to start play next season...2013 at the latest. Zero chance we are still in the BE in 2014, we'll pay our damages and be gone.

I think most CUSA fans want the three CUSA schools to be be gone immediately. While the BE wants to keep their three around for monetary and AQ purposes, there is no reason for CUSA to keep their three. Just pay us and go.

(11-04-2011 05:40 AM)HP-TBDPITL Wrote:  I think most CUSA fans want the three CUSA schools to be be gone immediately. While the BE wants to keep their three around for monetary and AQ purposes, there is no reason for CUSA to keep their three. Just pay us and go.

Doesn't matter what the fans want. CUSA isn't letting us go early. Hitt said yesterday he expects to play in CUSA next year, that is what the contract says and we should honor that.

(11-03-2011 09:29 PM)SmallVoice Wrote:  Pitt, Syracuse & WVU are contractually obligated to play a Big East schedule until 2014.

For real??? When did you find this out???

(11-04-2011 01:20 AM)Melky Cabrera Wrote:  

(11-03-2011 10:43 PM)brista21 Wrote:  Definitely makes the most sense holding Pitt, WVU and Cuse till 2014 makes no sense but there's just no way for anyone to leave for next season.

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If it makes no sense, then maybe they should have argued for that when the vote was taken to create such a wait time for exiting. It's a little late to be arguing the point now. It's what the rule is.

In practicality, "long notice period" = "buyout amount". The Big East and WVU are both posturing publicly in order to preserve their rights, but absolutely no one expects any of the 3 departing schools to stay for that 13-month period. The real squabble is finding a buyout amount that is equivalent to what the Big East would've earned during those 27 months if the 3 schools had stayed. The law very much favors a buyout instead of specific performance.

(11-03-2011 09:29 PM)SmallVoice Wrote:  Pitt, Syracuse & WVU are contractually obligated to play a Big East schedule until 2014. There are no plans to release any of those teams early.

There's no "let" about it, unless Commish Meatball has an invisible army he's going to unleash to escort WVU to games in Storrs and Tampa. That's why WVU filed suit first in Monongalia County, WV. The WV court with an elected judge is not going to issue an injunction enforcing the 27 month waiting period. WVU is confident it can handle whatever damages would be found by a Mon Co. jury. The BE is stupid, but not that stupid. They'll settle somewhere between $10-$21 million and WVU will be playing in the Big 12 next season.

I would think The Big East would wanna get the stronger football programs in now and go ahead and get the move done. But whatever. Hopefully the ACC makes a move on Rutgers and UConn and Boise can stay out west where it belongs (unless the rumor of BYU lobbying for Boise to be included in the WCC proves true).

(11-04-2011 08:04 AM)EERSFAN Wrote:  

(11-03-2011 09:29 PM)SmallVoice Wrote:  Pitt, Syracuse & WVU are contractually obligated to play a Big East schedule until 2014. There are no plans to release any of those teams early.

There's no "let" about it, unless Commish Meatball has an invisible army he's going to unleash to escort WVU to games in Storrs and Tampa. That's why WVU filed suit first in Monongalia County, WV. The WV court with an elected judge is not going to issue an injunction enforcing the 27 month waiting period. WVU is confident it can handle whatever damages would be found by a Mon Co. jury. The BE is stupid, but not that stupid. They'll settle somewhere between $10-$21 million and WVU will be playing in the Big 12 next season.

To be clear, you believe that the BE will play with 5 next year? Or 7 and the other 2 will just play to be nice while WV leaves? And you think they will do this for 10-21M?

I think you are thinking about it from WV's point of view which makes sense, but it takes to parties to agree on something. That money is peanuts compared to the possibility of not having a conference for next fball season.

(11-03-2011 10:29 PM)Joey_Niklas Wrote:  I just think 2013 makes sense for all parties. Why would the BE want to cut the pie 14/15 ways under the current contract? The BE in general would be losing $$$$.

They probably want to keep everyone in the Big East until AQ status is extended.

(11-04-2011 08:29 AM)uccheese Wrote:  

(11-04-2011 08:04 AM)EERSFAN Wrote:  

(11-03-2011 09:29 PM)SmallVoice Wrote:  Pitt, Syracuse & WVU are contractually obligated to play a Big East schedule until 2014. There are no plans to release any of those teams early.

There's no "let" about it, unless Commish Meatball has an invisible army he's going to unleash to escort WVU to games in Storrs and Tampa. That's why WVU filed suit first in Monongalia County, WV. The WV court with an elected judge is not going to issue an injunction enforcing the 27 month waiting period. WVU is confident it can handle whatever damages would be found by a Mon Co. jury. The BE is stupid, but not that stupid. They'll settle somewhere between $10-$21 million and WVU will be playing in the Big 12 next season.

To be clear, you believe that the BE will play with 5 next year? Or 7 and the other 2 will just play to be nice while WV leaves? And you think they will do this for 10-21M?

I think you are thinking about it from WV's point of view which makes sense, but it takes to parties to agree on something. That money is peanuts compared to the possibility of not having a conference for next fball season.

I don't know nor care what the Big East does next year. WVU will be in the Big 12. Pitt & Syracuse are not involved with WVU's suit and seem content to play in the Big East until whenever Meatball kisses them goodbye. Good for them. We are out after this year, no question about it.

(11-04-2011 08:29 AM)uccheese Wrote:  

(11-04-2011 08:04 AM)EERSFAN Wrote:  

(11-03-2011 09:29 PM)SmallVoice Wrote:  Pitt, Syracuse & WVU are contractually obligated to play a Big East schedule until 2014. There are no plans to release any of those teams early.

There's no "let" about it, unless Commish Meatball has an invisible army he's going to unleash to escort WVU to games in Storrs and Tampa. That's why WVU filed suit first in Monongalia County, WV. The WV court with an elected judge is not going to issue an injunction enforcing the 27 month waiting period. WVU is confident it can handle whatever damages would be found by a Mon Co. jury. The BE is stupid, but not that stupid. They'll settle somewhere between $10-$21 million and WVU will be playing in the Big 12 next season.

To be clear, you believe that the BE will play with 5 next year? Or 7 and the other 2 will just play to be nice while WV leaves? And you think they will do this for 10-21M?

I think you are thinking about it from WV's point of view which makes sense, but it takes to parties to agree on something. That money is peanuts compared to the possibility of not having a conference for next fball season.

Also, the Big East played with 7 in 2004, so it's not unprecedented. If the Big East can't get its teams in by next season, that's a Meatball problem, not a WVU problem.