LOL, Dude where did you get those figures, i spoke with the athletic dept and they told me is almost 20,000. We had around 17,500 season tix last year.FAMU tickets are now available and all but the east endzone are sold so i would say its almost 35,000 right now.

cardtopper Wrote:dlb,
ten time the hatred of UofL for UK....impossible for a true UofL fan.
:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

In reality I think that's what UofL, Cincy, and Memphis have shared in common all these years...UK, Ohio St, and Tennesee. We've all been little brother, second class citizens, given the left overs, neglected in our own cities, etc etc etc. We've had to fight for everything we've ever gotten and still get very little credit...while the priviledged schools get all the state funding, contributions, adoration, noteriety, political favors, and national attention....but there is no way on God's green earth that there could be any way to multiply my hate for UK by ten.

Cardtopper:
You are right on here......UC, UofL, and Memphis have been seen as playing in the shadow of OSU, UK, and UT respectively. I don't see why it always has to be this type of situation...why can't UC AND OSU be good or UK AND UofL, etc. Why can't OSU give UC the due respect....UC basketball program was rated #10 all time...better than OSU so why can't they just accept it and say...You are the basketball school, we are the football school. Or...why can't UK AND UofL be good at the same time...it's obvious to me UofL Football is superior to UK and UofL Basketball is a national program....this whole "playing in the shadow" deal is lame especially in light of the successes of UC and UofL.

I know in Wisconsin, UW and Marquette have a mutual respect for one another and a very healthy and competitive rivalry. Iowa and Iowa St. have mutual respect and a good rivalry. They recognize each other (which is ridiculous because Iowa St. has never really done anything worthy of recognition.) UK and OSU just can't stand the thought that UofL and UC are better than them in some sports.

UK and OSU have one thing in common....both of those schools are Klass with a Capitol K.

omnicarrier Wrote:

Quote:mlbUC Posted on Jul 28 2005, 01:16 PM
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Omni,

I am pretty confident in my info about football season tickets being down, but I have talked to a number of Bearcat fans who dropped their tickets but plan to walk up and buy them instead. I expect overall attendance to rise this year, but fans won't buy the full package at once due to the handling of Huggins. Of course, if Huggins is fired between now and the end of the football season (I would hope it is very unlikely) then I would expect to see a significant backlash at football because it will be the best opportunity to show the current administration that the fans are not happy. 

And Bearcats' fans have got to do what Bearcats' fans have got to do. But at the end of the 2003 season, when Coach P didn't get fired like many had hoped at SU, we didn't show our displeasure with the administration by boycotting basketball games.

I'm sorry, but I hope you can understand how dumb this looks to an outsider.

Cheers,
Neil

Everything I have read about UC ticket sales, donations, etc. is just pure speculation. "I talked to this guy", "My friends aren't getting season tickets", "I dropped my UCATS donation", etc.

Until I see hard evidence of this I won't believe it.

And my opinion is speculation as well but I think UC football and their attendance will be just fine - no worse than the last few seasons and probably better than the last few. UofL and WVU will probably both be sellouts, UCONN should draw well. The first 2 home games will bring the numbers down a little, but I can see:

25000 for EMU
18000 for W. Carolina
35000 for UofL
31000 for WVU
25000 for UCONN

That averages out to 26800. Again, pure guesswork on my part based on past seasons.

I was responding to the donation level not the season ticket level.
UCATS has more dollars in to date than at this time last year. I do not know what the ticket total is today but can find out by Monday.
Typically the two run close as most good seats are a required donation and tied to Basketball. Some in Football can have have seats without donation so it is not a direct correlation. There are a couple thousand at most that only have football tickets so even if
none of them bought tickets it could not be down much. The other thing is if you only have football tickets why would you not buy them for the most exciting season in Bearcat footbal history? Would you not buy them because of a basketball isuue? The scenerio is this... the University is excited about the Big East but it has been tempered by the Huggs Fiasco. I would need to know where the others have received their figures to discuss numbers with them.

I'm a football only season ticket holder who donates to UCATS (not very much, however). I live an hour away, it is too hard to drive down for the weeknight basketball games. I'm VERY upset with UC scheduling 2 weeknight football games this year, with 1 of them not even being done for TV. When 40% (really, 50% counting the game at Miami) of the games your fans can attend easily are on weekday nights you are asking for trouble. I have to take off work early for those games in order to get there by the kick off. If I wanted to do any tailgating I'd have to take a half day off work. UC should work much harder to rid themselves of as many of these weeknight games as possible.

As far as Bearcatfan's assertion that WVU will sell out, I'll believe it when I see it. That game will be in November, quite possibly making it a very cold night, and will be on a Wednesday night. Also, this year is most definitely a rebuilding year. When UC is going into their last home game with only 2 wins will the fans want to buy tickets to that game? And with it being a weeknight game, will the WVU fans come out in droves or will they stay at home and watch it on ESPN2? All those added up leads me to believe UC will get 25K for that game.

mlbUC Wrote:I'm a football only season ticket holder who donates to UCATS (not very much, however). I live an hour away, it is too hard to drive down for the weeknight basketball games. I'm VERY upset with UC scheduling 2 weeknight football games this year, with 1 of them not even being done for TV. When 40% (really, 50% counting the game at Miami) of the games your fans can attend easily are on weekday nights you are asking for trouble. I have to take off work early for those games in order to get there by the kick off. If I wanted to do any tailgating I'd have to take a half day off work. UC should work much harder to rid themselves of as many of these weeknight games as possible.

As far as Bearcatfan's assertion that WVU will sell out, I'll believe it when I see it. That game will be in November, quite possibly making it a very cold night, and will be on a Wednesday night. Also, this year is most definitely a rebuilding year. When UC is going into their last home game with only 2 wins will the fans want to buy tickets to that game? And with it being a weeknight game, will the WVU fans come out in droves or will they stay at home and watch it on ESPN2? All those added up leads me to believe UC will get 25K for that game.

OK, maybe I'm being too optimistic, but you are way down on the football team.

Have a little confidence! :)

I'm not down, I'm being realistic. We knew this was coming after the last two recruiting classes by Minter. Dantonio has brought in a great class, and I expect them to improve dramatically throughout the year, but I don't expect them to put a lot of wins on the board early in the season. With any luck they can close out the season on a strong note after the guys get some experience under their belt.

One thing that would have helped UC Football Ticket sales is more media hype but, as we have stated in past posts...the media coverage of UC Football/Big East is horrid. If they had a daily Bearcat Football Update on radio shows during drive time.....if the nightly news would do two or three stories per week about UC Football, practice updates, Big East updates, etc......if the newspaper would have a Bearcat Football Section in the daily paper from say....August through December...this would help attendance but the general apathy of the media basically "tells" the general public....UC Football? Who cares.

The media says they do not report on UC Football bc nobody cares but I say that nobody cares because the Media. WHO SETS THE AGENDA, tells them not to care via no/poor coverage.

Instead, we get daily Reds updates in the paper, on TV and on the radio all over a sad baseball team that draws poorly and is what....20+ games UNDER .500?!?!?!?

Whatever.

I have heard radio spots everyday in the last two weeks for football tickets. It would have been WLW or fm107 or 102 if I heard them.

gee, I thought this thread was about ticket sales.

I heard that Pitt season ticket sales were going about the same as last year. That's not good considering the fervor surrounding Wannstedt. Two factors diminished early sales in my mind. First, there was a minor public relations snafu surrounding donations to get seats (and being able to get the same seats). Secondly, this year's home schedule is not as appealing.

NEBRASKA, LOUISVILLE, AND WVU are all on the road. Notre Dame is the only home game that will guarantee a sell-out (65,000+).

There's really no excuse, and I hope sales will get better. I, also, wish Pitt would stop scheduling people like Youngstown State. I don't care if it is a home gate. No one wants to see it except die-hard fans who don't have an offer to work overtime.

I did hear a rumor today that Wannstedt has talked to Shula at Alabama about a future series. Purely a rumor, but one I'd like to see come to fruition.

Jim