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I was glad to hear it. The game is good for both schools. Tickets to the game this year on eBay are two to three times more expensive on average than Kentucky's next best matchup, with Tennessee.

I was disappointed that the two upcoming games at UK won't be season openers (the two in Cardinal Stadium will be), but Jurich said he was just glad to keep the series intact.

I would love to see us schedule a regular game with a strong program from our region -- Ohio State, Tennessee, Purdue, Virginia Tech, etc...
08-10-2005 08:50 PM
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In the years we don't open up with the mildcats I want to open up with S. Miss. I was gonna say Memphis, but see'in they'll be in the Big East soon enough.....
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Just out of curoisty...but did the state gov't force the extension or did both schools freely agree to it?


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They threatened to step in but didn't have to.
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So would I be correct in saying UK couldn't have gotten out of it if they had wanted to? The reason why I am asking is with state gov'ts getting involved with college football all around the country (and I'm assuming state politics in WV and KY are about the same)...is West Virginia going to be trapped playing Marshall forever...



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Quote:Tickets to the game this year on eBay are two to three times more expensive on average than Kentucky's next best matchup, with Tennessee

i wouldn't call the louisville vs kentucky game a "good" matchup, nor would i call the uk vs tennessee game that. both teams will likely beat the dog piss out of them this year. kentucky's best matchup is with vanderbilt, and they'll have a difficult time winning that one as well.
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Sorry, I wasn't clear there, xu. I meant in terms of fan interest.
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great line from louisville's scout board...

Quote:Those geniuses in Lexington just changed their schedule so that they could play UofL and Florida back to back. Brilliant. I guess that is how they rose to the heights they currently occupy. 

couldn't have said it any better myself. what a bunch of dopes. they're lucky louisville agrees to keep them on the schedule at all. they are in NO position to be making demands.


jackson, for what it's worth, i for one would really like to see a marshall vs west virginia series. unlike the state of kentucky, you have two decent football teams, so it wouldn't drag you down all that much to play them. i would at least like to see a two year deal with them. if wvu beats the piss out of them two straight years, you'll have made your point and then shut them up a bit.
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Quote:jackson, for what it's worth, i for one would really like to see a marshall vs west virginia series. unlike the state of kentucky, you have two decent football teams, so it wouldn't drag you down all that much to play them. i would at least like to see a two year deal with them. if wvu beats the piss out of them two straight years, you'll have made your point and then shut them up a bit.


-- Marshall has a solid football program and I am sure they will win at lest one game of the series...the probelm is MU's staduim capacity is so small the Mountaineers will lose money by playing there...if it was a situation like LSU going to play Tulane in the superdome it wouldn't be as a much of an issue....and of couse no one likes being foced to sign a contract when you have a gun to your head...which is basically what the state gov't did to us...that's why I am watching the UL/UK thing so closely..I am afraid there is going to be some kind of precident for the state to continue to dictate contracts even after the first/orginial one expires


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Quote:and of couse no one likes being foced to sign a contract when you have a gun to your head...which is basically what the state gov't did to us

whoa?? i didn't realize a contract had been worked out between west virginia and marshall.

as far as losing money goes, i don't know the specifics of the contract, but i do know that for most home and homes, the visiting team never gets any money anyway other than the share of tickets their athletic dept. is allotted. a team like eastern michigan gets a nice pay check for playing at michigan, but that's because michigan doesn't go on the road and play at eastern michigan the following year. essentially, your payment is a return game and that's it. o don't think it would cost wvu all that much money because it's no different than any other road game.

you do, of course, lose a potential home game every other year, and i guess you lose money on that, but it's no different than playing any other game on the road.
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CardFan636 Wrote:They threatened to step in but didn't have to.
That's incorrect. One state senator threatened to step in if it wasn't continued as the first game of the season. UK has never publically stated they wanted to drop the series only that they wanted to move the game from the opener when at Commenwealth.
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Jackson1011 Wrote:
Quote:jackson, for what it's worth, i for one would really like to see a marshall vs west virginia series. unlike the state of kentucky, you have two decent football teams, so it wouldn't drag you down all that much to play them. i would at least like to see a two year deal with them. if wvu beats the piss out of them two straight years, you'll have made your point and then shut them up a bit.


-- Marshall has a solid football program and I am sure they will win at lest one game of the series...the probelm is MU's staduim capacity is so small the Mountaineers will lose money by playing there...if it was a situation like LSU going to play Tulane in the superdome it wouldn't be as a much of an issue....and of couse no one likes being foced to sign a contract when you have a gun to your head...which is basically what the state gov't did to us...that's why I am watching the UL/UK thing so closely..I am afraid there is going to be some kind of precident for the state to continue to dictate contracts even after the first/orginial one expires


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FWIW I don't think WVU should have to play Marshall either. The UK/UL series was started by UK AD CM Newton, UL AD Bill Olsen, UK Coach Bill Curry and UL Coach Howard Schnellenberger to jump start football interest in a basketball state. It worked wonders.

To get the series off the ground though UofL agreed to play every game at UK's Commonwealth Stadium until UofL built its own facility apart from the fairgrounds/old Cardinal Stadium. UK agreed, UL built its stadium and the game has been played 1st of the year ever since.

UofL has been playing 1A football for many, many moons. It took us many years to get where we are without cheating and we stepped up to the plate when UK made specific demands of us. We also built our program by and large without assistance from the state government. The university community built our facilities, I understand Marshall has been a budget drain on West Virginia's tax payers.
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Quote:I understand Marshall has been a budget drain on West Virginia's tax payers.

-- Sadly that is the main issue...MU's get a state subsidy for its sports programs...when they loss money the state gov't bails them out...WVUs sports programs are entirely self sufficent and our state money goes to academics....by forcing WVU to play MU in football (thus guranteeing huge payout for the games in Motown and sell outs in Huntington) the Herd will be making more money thus assuring the state will be paying less money....the only loser is the state school and any chance of the Virginia Tech/West Virginia rivalry continuing....03-puke God I hate when politics get involved with sports, especially college football



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While the teams were able to come to an agreement sans government intervention, I think you are still going to see more and more in-state rivalry games created and/or forced by people of influence in order to boost state economies. There is little doubt in my mind that dropping the series was not an option for the Governor's Cup game... Jurich probably had to buckle to the non-season opener at UK because the powerful buzz in his ear suggested it was a good compromise. I see it kinda like when your little brother whines because you won't let him play your video game. If mom gets involved, little brother is gonna come out ahead because the "compromise" is still to his benefit. Little SISTER (UK) whined and got her way in this one and "mom" was there even if she wasn't an official mediator.
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Quote:I understand Marshall has been a budget drain on West Virginia's tax payers.

after being on marshall's campus, i can't imagine it being THAT much of a drain. if it is, then they certainly aren't spending their money on aesthetics. that place is a dump.
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Quote:after being on marshall's campus, i can't imagine it being THAT much of a drain. if it is, then they certainly aren't spending their money on aesthetics. that place is a dump.

:laugh: ...so true xubrew


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The kitty cats are a bunch of pusy cats. This latest fiasco is worth about 7 more points we will pound them by.

........we are tired of their crap, and I don’t think Petrino will let up this year. So a heads up to the rest of the country as you’re watching us pile it on; it’s a personal thing between us and the kitties.
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CardHouse Wrote:The kitty cats are a bunch of pusy cats. This latest fiasco is worth about 7 more points we will pound them by.
Oh, I think it's worth more than just 7 points. All the people that were calling for 70 points were talking crazy just last week. Now I don't think it's out of the realm of possibility at all. Petrino is PISSED about this move and so is Jurich. Consider...

"It was a very selfish move that I think disrespects football in the state of Kentucky." - Bobby Petrino

"What I did when I started thinking about whether to play the third game was, I went back to last year. Throw out the fanfare of it being a wonderful event for the state and all that -- we were five times the team in the third game than we were the first game. We were really kicking it into gear. So, if that's what they want to do, let's go do it." - Tom Jurich

It's gonna get ugly this year... REAL ugly.
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