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cuseroc Wrote:I think some are not completely sold on the Cards because it was Cusa that they dominated so badly.  Some media folks say that at least a couple of teams that played in the BE last year could have won cusa.  I agree with that.  But I must say that  no team in the BE would have run roughshod over cusa the way that the Cards did.  I mean its one thing to win a conference, but its quite another to just steamroll a conference. Thats what Louisville did to cusa.  Sure a couple of BE teams could have won cusa last year, but i seriously doubt that WV or Pitt or BC would have had a cakewalk .
I don't think anyone in the BE last year was consistent enough to go 8-0 in CUSA last year. I do think that Pitt definitely would have won the league.

For WVU and BC, they definitely would have had a great shot, and been right there, but in my mind I don't think they would have won it for sure. Of course we'll never know but interesting to discuss I guess.

I do think some BE fans discount the quality of the top half of CUSA to some degree. Where I totally agree is that the BE is devoid (THANKFULLY) of at least 2 teams a year (and they would rotate year to year in CUSA) that are absolutely pitiful that year and cannot even give top teams a game. For example, last year ECU fit the bill here, despite all their past history of solid teams. Heck, in 1997 UofL was one of those teams. However, we made the commitment to improve and not everyone in our prior league seemed to follow that mantra when it came time to put their money where their mouth was.
Of the teams mentioned, Pitt was the most inconsistant. they lost to Cuse and Uconn. I actually think that Uconn was probably a little better than Cuse, but Cuse beat them as well as Pitt.

If you dont think that BC could have won cusa or WV, you were not following those programs too closely. BC won 9 games last year playing a tougher schedule than a cusa schedule. WV lost to Pitt, BC and VT, 3 programs that could have won cusa last year, and they all finished way higher than any cusa team last year, outside of louisville..
BTW, you dont have to go undefeated in a conference to win it, although I feel that BC and WV could have. Cincy came in second place in cusa, and they lost a few games in conference.

But, no bones about it, Pitt, WV, and BC could have won cusa last year, if the Cards were not there. Outside of Memphis, I cant see anyone that would have had a legitimate shot at them.
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cardtopper Wrote:Could we just get a little respect as well...Gosh, finish 11-1 with a final ranking of six and we still have to constantly defend ourselves.
I have nothing but respect - doesn't mean I have to like the Cards, however. Note: As a Mountie also I only wish you would of beaten the Thugs from Miami as well to go 12-0.
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Tigeer Wrote:I only wish you would of beaten the Thugs from Miami as well to go 12-0.
Me too,we would have been in the Liberty Bowl. :bang: I don't think the Cards will lose more games than they did last year,the rest of the Big East teams are not that much better than CUSA teams.
08-17-2005 01:50 PM
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tigerderek Wrote:
Tigeer Wrote:I only wish you would of beaten the Thugs from Miami as well to go 12-0.
Me too,we would have been in the Liberty Bowl. :bang: I don't think the Cards will lose more games than they did last year,the rest of the Big East teams are not that much better than CUSA teams.
I noticed that you said "they are not that much more better". But they are better. Several legitimate preseason polls have said that Louisville will have a much tougher time than they did in CUSA, even though they may have a better team now than last year.
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Look,I don't like Louisville but I hope and think they will run right through you guys.
08-18-2005 12:09 AM
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tigerderek Wrote:Look,I don't like Louisville but I hope and think they will run right through you guys.
Tigerderek - I love the Tigers, but also the Mountaineers - I have followed both the C-USA and BE for a long time - it will not be a cake walk for the UoL. Road games in the BE will be a lot different than road games in C-USA.
08-18-2005 07:53 AM
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tigerderek Wrote:Look,I don't like Louisville but I hope and think they will run right through you guys.
One thing I am sure of, If Louiseville does go undefeated in the BE,which is certainly possible, It wont be a landslide every game like it was in Cusa last year.
08-18-2005 08:46 AM
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The only tough conference road game they played was here in Memphis and nothing else.All I'm saying is that I don't expect them to lose this year in the Big East and it has nothing to do with me bashing Big East football.
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tigerderek Wrote:The only tough conference road game they played was here in Memphis and nothing else.All I'm saying is that I don't expect them to lose this year in the Big East and it has nothing to do with me bashing Big East football.
At this point, they should be the favorite in every BE game; but that could change as the season goes on. Just remember we were supposed to be a potential undefeated team last year. Our defense didn't make that even remotely possible. Don't be surprised if the UofL loses one and possibly even two games.

And yes, there was definitely a hostile home Memphis crowd for the UofL game - they did win, however.
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cuseroc Wrote:
tigerderek Wrote:
Tigeer Wrote:I only wish you would of beaten the Thugs from Miami as well to go 12-0.
Me too,we would have been in the Liberty Bowl. :bang: I don't think the Cards will lose more games than they did last year,the rest of the Big East teams are not that much better than CUSA teams.
I noticed that you said "they are not that much more better". But they are better. Several legitimate preseason polls have said that Louisville will have a much tougher time than they did in CUSA, even though they may have a better team now than last year.
I'm calling you on this...I hightly doubt UL will have a better team this year, at least early on.

While Brohm did get excellent PT last year, UL has lost the majority of their offensive production nonetheless. They have lots of talent returning to fill in, but early in the year a team or two might sneak up on them while they're still getting situated. Take, for example, the USC squad that went 10-2 a few years ago but lost to kansas state and someone else i forget. They proceded to step all over iowa in the orange bowl. You know, the 11-1 iowa that many felt should have been in the title game instead of OSU.

UL needs to get through its early games and jell after the nasty coach wanting to leave issues. If they do that then they're going to be as good as last year.
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USFPDiddy Wrote:
cuseroc Wrote:
tigerderek Wrote:
Tigeer Wrote:I only wish you would of beaten the Thugs from Miami as well to go 12-0.
Me too,we would have been in the Liberty Bowl. :bang: I don't think the Cards will lose more games than they did last year,the rest of the Big East teams are not that much better than CUSA teams.
I noticed that you said "they are not that much more better". But they are better. Several legitimate preseason polls have said that Louisville will have a much tougher time than they did in CUSA, even though they may have a better team now than last year.
I'm calling you on this...I hightly doubt UL will have a better team this year, at least early on.

While Brohm did get excellent PT last year, UL has lost the majority of their offensive production nonetheless. They have lots of talent returning to fill in, but early in the year a team or two might sneak up on them while they're still getting situated. Take, for example, the USC squad that went 10-2 a few years ago but lost to kansas state and someone else i forget. They proceded to step all over iowa in the orange bowl. You know, the 11-1 iowa that many felt should have been in the title game instead of OSU.

UL needs to get through its early games and jell after the nasty coach wanting to leave issues. If they do that then they're going to be as good as last year.
I agree

Louisville will finish 9-2. If breaks go against them an 8-3 finish is also possible. A Big East team will upset them at home (either Pitt or Syracuse). They will lose to WVU.
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TexanMark Wrote:
USFPDiddy Wrote:
cuseroc Wrote:
tigerderek Wrote:
Tigeer Wrote:I only wish you would of beaten the Thugs from Miami as well to go 12-0.
Me too,we would have been in the Liberty Bowl. :bang: I don't think the Cards will lose more games than they did last year,the rest of the Big East teams are not that much better than CUSA teams.
I noticed that you said "they are not that much more better". But they are better. Several legitimate preseason polls have said that Louisville will have a much tougher time than they did in CUSA, even though they may have a better team now than last year.
I'm calling you on this...I hightly doubt UL will have a better team this year, at least early on.

While Brohm did get excellent PT last year, UL has lost the majority of their offensive production nonetheless. They have lots of talent returning to fill in, but early in the year a team or two might sneak up on them while they're still getting situated. Take, for example, the USC squad that went 10-2 a few years ago but lost to kansas state and someone else i forget. They proceded to step all over iowa in the orange bowl. You know, the 11-1 iowa that many felt should have been in the title game instead of OSU.

UL needs to get through its early games and jell after the nasty coach wanting to leave issues. If they do that then they're going to be as good as last year.
I agree

Louisville will finish 9-2. If breaks go against them an 8-3 finish is also possible. A Big East team will upset them at home (either Pitt or Syracuse). They will lose to WVU.
You really think Gwaltney can carry WVU to the promised land?
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knight_01 Wrote:
TexanMark Wrote:
USFPDiddy Wrote:
cuseroc Wrote:
tigerderek Wrote:
Tigeer Wrote:I only wish you would of beaten the Thugs from Miami as well to go 12-0.
Me too,we would have been in the Liberty Bowl. :bang: I don't think the Cards will lose more games than they did last year,the rest of the Big East teams are not that much better than CUSA teams.
I noticed that you said "they are not that much more better". But they are better. Several legitimate preseason polls have said that Louisville will have a much tougher time than they did in CUSA, even though they may have a better team now than last year.
I'm calling you on this...I hightly doubt UL will have a better team this year, at least early on.

While Brohm did get excellent PT last year, UL has lost the majority of their offensive production nonetheless. They have lots of talent returning to fill in, but early in the year a team or two might sneak up on them while they're still getting situated. Take, for example, the USC squad that went 10-2 a few years ago but lost to kansas state and someone else i forget. They proceded to step all over iowa in the orange bowl. You know, the 11-1 iowa that many felt should have been in the title game instead of OSU.

UL needs to get through its early games and jell after the nasty coach wanting to leave issues. If they do that then they're going to be as good as last year.
I agree

Louisville will finish 9-2. If breaks go against them an 8-3 finish is also possible. A Big East team will upset them at home (either Pitt or Syracuse). They will lose to WVU.
You really think Gwaltney can carry WVU to the promised land?
Beating Louisville isn't going to the promised land

What it is --It will be a very tough inconference game for Louisville. Unlike CUSA they will have to play at stadiums full of fans with homefield advantages. WVU, Pitt, UConn and Syracuse all have significant home field advantages. And don't laugh Rutgers is a tough place to play, also.

The old guard BE teams will not roll over and play dead.
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USFPDiddy Wrote:
cuseroc Wrote:
tigerderek Wrote:
Tigeer Wrote:I only wish you would of beaten the Thugs from Miami as well to go 12-0.
Me too,we would have been in the Liberty Bowl. :bang: I don't think the Cards will lose more games than they did last year,the rest of the Big East teams are not that much better than CUSA teams.
I noticed that you said "they are not that much more better". But they are better. Several legitimate preseason polls have said that Louisville will have a much tougher time than they did in CUSA, even though they may have a better team now than last year.
I'm calling you on this...I hightly doubt UL will have a better team this year, at least early on.

While Brohm did get excellent PT last year, UL has lost the majority of their offensive production nonetheless. They have lots of talent returning to fill in, but early in the year a team or two might sneak up on them while they're still getting situated. Take, for example, the USC squad that went 10-2 a few years ago but lost to kansas state and someone else i forget. They proceded to step all over iowa in the orange bowl. You know, the 11-1 iowa that many felt should have been in the title game instead of OSU.

UL needs to get through its early games and jell after the nasty coach wanting to leave issues. If they do that then they're going to be as good as last year.
So in other words, you agree that Louisville will have a tougher time, because they are palying a tougher schedule in the BE?
It also is very possible that the team Louisville is fielding this year is more talented than last year. Sure they lost some great players, but they have proven great players to replace them.
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USFPDiddy Wrote:I'm calling you on this...I hightly doubt UL will have a better team this year, at least early on.

While Brohm did get excellent PT last year, UL has lost the majority of their offensive production nonetheless...
UL needs to get through its early games and jell after the nasty coach wanting to leave issues. If they do that then they're going to be as good as last year.
The team has already jelled and they have overwhelmingly accepted Brohm. The coach leaving fiasco is nothing new. He flirted with Auburn the year before and it didn't affect the team at all.

I don't know what will happen to Louisville this year, but...

Their talent level is as great or better than last year on offense. True they lost their #1 QB, #1 WR, and #1 & #3 RB (all of whom were drafted in the NFL). But they have a QB that showed great poise as a freshman last year and has the potential to be among the best QB to play the game. (He was only the 2nd high school player ever put on the cover of SI). The WR corps is solid and proven. The new guy, Urrutia, has shown excellent playmaking abilities thus far. The RB are also solid. Bush of course is the main guy, but Kolby Smith got plenty of reps last year and showed he can break away for big yardage. Finally, the veteran O-line that was one of the best last year and anchored by All-American Travis Leffew returns intact.

They may be most suspect on defense. They return a veteran D-line with quick ends capable of putting pressure on the QB, but they lost "the Hammer" (MLB McCune) to the NFL. The OLBs return and are proven. The corners and safeties will have to prove themselves.

They MAY NOT win games by a large margin like they did last year, but I don't believe any D in the BE can stop that offense. Perhaps they can slow them down a little.

In any case, I am totally pumped to get this season started right by beating the crap out of Kentucky.

Oh yeah, and GO CARDS!
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