the programs in SEC

3 Cupcake games like D-1AA
play no less then 7 home games
play weaker BCS team in OOC

I see teams in the SEC do this all the time and set thereselves up for nice 8-4, 9-3 records

Why won't SU,WVU,Uconn do this too

Some do schedule easy see UConn

Syracuse schedules tough OOC games because the fans demand it. Also, Syracuse due to national prominence is able to get home n home's with schools with much larger stadiums.

TexanMark Wrote:Some do schedule easy see UConn

Syracuse schedules tough OOC games because the fans demand it. Also, Syracuse due to national prominence is able to get home n home's with schools with much larger stadiums.

UCONN has one D-1AA team on the schedule along with Buffalo and Army. UCONN's future schedule will get stronger. Also, UCONN said they wont sign anything except 1-on-1 with future teams, so it might be harder to get big teams until they expand the RENT. I like to see UCONN play one PAC-10 team per year cause I think recruiting out in CA would be real good.

To be the best, you should try to schedule the best.

Auburn could have played for the MYTHICAL National Championship if they had scheduled differently.

This is one reason why some Memphis fans are upset about their new conference arrangement. Now the AD is out softening up the non-Conference schedule - go figure.

SEC Teams have a schedule and attendance advantage over the Big East.

Most SEC Teams can draw 70,000-95,000 regardless who they play at home.

1/2 of the SEC Teams finished in the Top 14 in Attendance.

The 7th placed SEC Attendance Team (USC) finished 16th in the Nation.

As some other Big East Fans mentioned, many Big East teams need good non-conf games to help sell tickets, grab attendance, etc...

The top existing Big East Team, WVU, finished 36th in the Nation in Attendance.

Plus, the Big East Teams needed 4 non-conf games to fill their schedule (during 11 game season), SEC Teams needed only 3.

Next year, Big East Teams will need 5 non-conf games, SEC will need 4.

Most SEC Teams do play a non-conf rival (aka UF-FSU, USC-Clemson, UGA-Ga Tech, etc...) but some like LSU have stopped playing top National non-conf games...and instead prefer to earn about $3-$4 Million per home game vs no bodies.

Plus, add in the fact that most BCS Presidents voted to allow them to count Div I-AA wins EVERY year (instead of just once every 4 years), you will see more and more Div I-AA cupcakes on top teams schedule.

They get a W, plus earn $1-$5 Million for the extra home game.

KL

KnightLight Wrote:SEC Teams have a schedule and attendance advantage over the Big East.

Most SEC Teams can draw 70,000-95,000 regardless who they play at home.

1/2 of the SEC Teams finished in the Top 14 in Attendance.

The 7th placed SEC Attendance Team (USC) finished 16th in the Nation.

As some other Big East Fans mentioned, many Big East teams need good non-conf games to help sell tickets, grab attendance, etc...

The top existing Big East Team, WVU, finished 36th in the Nation in Attendance.

Plus, the Big East Teams needed 4 non-conf games to fill their schedule (during 11 game season), SEC Teams needed only 3.

Next year, Big East Teams will need 5 non-conf games, SEC will need 4.

Most SEC Teams do play a non-conf rival (aka UF-FSU, USC-Clemson, UGA-Ga Tech, etc...) but some like LSU have stopped playing top National non-conf games...and instead prefer to earn about $3-$4 Million per home game vs no bodies.

Plus, add in the fact that most BCS Presidents voted to allow them to count Div I-AA wins EVERY year (instead of just once every 4 years), you will see more and more Div I-AA cupcakes on top teams schedule.

They get a W, plus earn $1-$5 Million for the extra home game.

KL

KL, LSU is going back to playing a non-conf rival just like UGa, UF, USC, and UK do. Tulane is coming back long term. And LSU has some very nice non-conf games scheduled on top of that as well. Auburn, on the other hand, is running around like a little chicken, canceling it top national non-conf games it had already scheduled, and is not scheduling anymore of them anytime soon. :mad:

DawgNBama Wrote:

KnightLight Wrote:SEC
KL

KL, LSU is going back to playing a non-conf rival just like UGa, UF, USC, and UK do. Tulane is coming back long term. And LSU has some very nice non-conf games scheduled on top of that as well. Auburn, on the other hand, is running around like a little chicken, canceling it top national non-conf games it had already scheduled, and is not scheduling anymore of them anytime soon. :mad:

Well...I was talking mostly about BCS non-conf rivals.

LSU will be playing ALL State Schools (including Louisiana-Monroe, Louisiana Tech, believe Div I-AA Louisiana Northwest, etc..) and will play home-home again with Tulane.

LSU, as they expand their Stadium close to 100,000 plus...are less and less interested in future tough BCS non-conf games.

KL

West Virginia has a home and home with Mississippi state coming up and WVU is currently in talks with Auburn about a football series



Jackson

Why has West Virginia schedule a game or two with Penn State?

PusherT Wrote:the programs in SEC

3 Cupcake games like D-1AA
play no less then 7 home games
play weaker BCS team in OOC

I see teams in the SEC do this all the time and set thereselves up for nice 8-4, 9-3 records

Why won't SU,WVU,Uconn do this too

One reason is that they play 8 SEC games. Y'all play 7 Big East games. Not a flame, but the SEC schedule is a bit more grueling than the Big East schedule at this juncture. Compare Syracuse's conference schedule versus South Carolina's confernce schedule.

at Georgia
Alabama
at Auburn
Kentucky
Vanderbilt
at Tennessee
at Arkansas
Florida

West Virginia
at UConn
Rutgers
at Pitt
Cincinnati
South Florida
at Louisville

Which do you think is easier?

Yes, UConn schedules cupcakes at this point in the program's development. It makes no sense for a school only a few years out of 1AA to get pulverized by the likes of Oklahoma, FSU, etc.

The idea is to schedule strategically and get some early wins, build up a fan-base, go to some minor bowls, etc. Eventually though, UConn will be obligated (by fans, alum, etc.) to begin beefing up the schedule, just not at this point.

3601 Wrote:

PusherT Wrote:the programs in SEC

3 Cupcake games like D-1AA
play no less then 7 home games
play weaker BCS team in OOC

I see teams in the SEC do this all the time and set thereselves up for nice 8-4, 9-3 records

Why won't SU,WVU,Uconn do this too

One reason is that they play 8 SEC games. Y'all play 7 Big East games. Not a flame, but the SEC schedule is a bit more grueling than the Big East schedule at this juncture. Compare Syracuse's conference schedule versus South Carolina's confernce schedule.

at Georgia
Alabama
at Auburn
Kentucky
Vanderbilt
at Tennessee
at Arkansas
Florida

West Virginia
at UConn
Rutgers
at Pitt
Cincinnati
South Florida
at Louisville

Which do you think is easier?

If you use that excuse then the every team in the Big Ten and Big 12 and ACC would schedule easy games.

Quote:Why has West Virginia schedule a game or two with Penn State?

-- Beacuse PSU will not give Pitt or WVU a home and home...its a shame because pitt has gotten a 1 for 1 from ND in the past and WVU has gotten a 1 for 1 from Ohio St...but Penn St will have nothing to do us

Jackson

I agree with UConn's schedule while it is still a young program. I would say keep the same type of schedule for another two years so you can go to a couple more bowls. UConn's key is beating GA Tech. That would be a big win for the big east as would Syracuse knocking off UVA.

Murph1 Wrote:Yes, UConn schedules cupcakes at this point in the program's development. It makes no sense for a school only a few years out of 1AA to get pulverized by the likes of Oklahoma, FSU, etc.

The idea is to schedule strategically and get some early wins, build up a fan-base, go to some minor bowls, etc. Eventually though, UConn will be obligated (by fans, alum, etc.) to begin beefing up the schedule, just not at this point.

The Catch-22 for programs like yours...is after your school gets use to the easy non-conf home games...the extra $1 Million-$2 Million earned per home game....it makes it much harder in future years to agree to a "road" game for only $400,000 or $500,000 and a very good chance of bringing home a loss.

Because of the Div I-AA win rule change where Div I-A teams can count ONE Div I-AA win EVERY YEAR....and with the move to 12 game seasons...you will see most BCS Schools with 7, and even EIGHT home games in the future.

(But since Big East teams will have to schedule FIVE non-conf games per year...they might have to reach into a better "pool" of teams to find all those games, and hence, have to travel on the road.)

KL

PusherT Wrote:the programs in SEC

3 Cupcake games like D-1AA
play no less then 7 home games
play weaker BCS team in OOC

I see teams in the SEC do this all the time and set thereselves up for nice 8-4, 9-3 records

Why won't SU,WVU,Uconn do this too

Syracuse plays SEC teams.... not very often, but that will change though... you will see Syracuse scheduling teams out west, where as they were never scheduled in the past. The only west team i ever remember SU playing was BYU. Syracuse has had home and home games with Tenn and Auburn. It seems like the next 5 years they will be playing a Big 10 schedule. I would like to see SU playing the likes of Florida and Georgia. I don't think SU has ever played South Carolina. I guess we'll see!

Quote:I don't think SU has ever played South Carolina. I guess we'll see!

Don't look for it. South Carolina likes to fall back on the conference crutch and play as many home games a year as possible. They are required to play one OOC game every other year by state law.....other than that they'll play every OOC game in their dead cockroach looking stadium.

Just as UConn is a new DI program and should slowly build up to playing a tough OOC schedule, the new BEast is really a "new" conference and is trying to grow some teams. I see nothing wrong with our teams playing a reasonable out of conference schedule as we grow. We need five bowl games...so we need five teams with winning records to fill them. As we grow we can toughen our schedules without doing major damage to our collective young psyches. What good would it do for all of our teams to schedule murderous schedules at this point?

I think that Pittsburgh should schedule Penn State and Connecticut should schedule Boston College.