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RE: Week one
(08-22-2011 07:44 AM)MT FAN Wrote:  
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(08-21-2011 09:23 AM)MaXx Wrote:  ASU seems to have the best chance in week 1.

Based upon what? When you review what Illinois is returning and the pre-season news coming out of camp, I don't see this game being anything close to an upset. Could ASU cover the point spread? Sure! All three of these game will be losses for the SBC.

FIU and ULM will be the only SBC programs with wins in Week #1.

Really? You know that for a fact? Have you seen the future? Illinois, Purdue, and Clemson are not top ten teams we have a decent shot a winning these games.

Come on, really! You're insulted because I don't think MT is going to beat Purdue? No, none of them are top ten teams and that's why you play the game. But Illinois and Clemson are very physical on the lines; yes more physical then SBC teams and games are won on the lines.

Purdue is a more finesse team on offense, but they spread you out and can run up the score. MT defense isn't stopping them. Now that's my opinion, you are welcome to yours. After the first week's game and we can discuss it. Thanks!

Believe you me I am not insulted that some random ULL fan on the internet picked MT to lose. I'm not sure why you think that. Anyway, you really go out on a limb with your "expert" picks . "ALL Sun Belt teams LOSE the first week!" Good luck against Oklahoma State!

If any Belt teams wins in week one aside from FIU, it would be a huge upset. I'll go out on a limb and say that WKU has the best opportunity to win in week one.

ULM vs FSU is gonna get ugly real fast
Ok State vs Louisiana see ULM vs FSU
MT vs Purdue close for 3 quarters, but the 4th will get ugly
stAte vs Illinois see Middle vs Purdue
Troy vs Clemson not at the "Real Death Valley"
FAU vs Florida come on man...U.G.L.Y. Muschamp will make a statement.
WKU vs Kentucky well if Rainey doesn't fumble and they control the clock it will be close.

I don't see how fans can get butthurt over these predictions. Sure an upset can happen and I hope it does. But lets be realistic here, a single OOC win this week would be a terrific weekend for the Sunbelt.
08-22-2011 08:14 AM
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RE: Week one
(08-22-2011 08:14 AM)Geaux Cajuns Wrote:  
(08-22-2011 07:44 AM)MT FAN Wrote:  
(08-21-2011 10:54 PM)CajunT Wrote:  
(08-21-2011 04:13 PM)MT FAN Wrote:  
(08-21-2011 09:33 AM)CajunT Wrote:  Based upon what? When you review what Illinois is returning and the pre-season news coming out of camp, I don't see this game being anything close to an upset. Could ASU cover the point spread? Sure! All three of these game will be losses for the SBC.

FIU and ULM will be the only SBC programs with wins in Week #1.

Really? You know that for a fact? Have you seen the future? Illinois, Purdue, and Clemson are not top ten teams we have a decent shot a winning these games.

Come on, really! You're insulted because I don't think MT is going to beat Purdue? No, none of them are top ten teams and that's why you play the game. But Illinois and Clemson are very physical on the lines; yes more physical then SBC teams and games are won on the lines.

Purdue is a more finesse team on offense, but they spread you out and can run up the score. MT defense isn't stopping them. Now that's my opinion, you are welcome to yours. After the first week's game and we can discuss it. Thanks!

Believe you me I am not insulted that some random ULL fan on the internet picked MT to lose. I'm not sure why you think that. Anyway, you really go out on a limb with your "expert" picks . "ALL Sun Belt teams LOSE the first week!" Good luck against Oklahoma State!

If any Belt teams wins in week one aside from FIU, it would be a huge upset. I'll go out on a limb and say that WKU has the best opportunity to win in week one.

ULM vs FSU is gonna get ugly real fast
Ok State vs Louisiana see ULM vs FSU
MT vs Purdue close for 3 quarters, but the 4th will get ugly
stAte vs Illinois see Middle vs Purdue
Troy vs Clemson not at the "Real Death Valley"
FAU vs Florida come on man...U.G.L.Y. Muschamp will make a statement.
WKU vs Kentucky well if Rainey doesn't fumble and they control the clock it will be close.

I don't see how fans can get butthurt over these predictions. Sure an upset can happen and I hope it does. But lets be realistic here, a single OOC win this week would be a terrific weekend for the Sunbelt.

Break out the party hats...! We'll win this one...04-rock
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My reply on one of the Florida message boards on how the game will go.

" Thank you for the check, and have a nice season"
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RE: Week one
(08-22-2011 07:44 AM)MT FAN Wrote:  
(08-21-2011 10:54 PM)CajunT Wrote:  
(08-21-2011 04:13 PM)MT FAN Wrote:  
(08-21-2011 09:33 AM)CajunT Wrote:  
(08-21-2011 09:23 AM)MaXx Wrote:  ASU seems to have the best chance in week 1.

Based upon what? When you review what Illinois is returning and the pre-season news coming out of camp, I don't see this game being anything close to an upset. Could ASU cover the point spread? Sure! All three of these game will be losses for the SBC.

FIU and ULM will be the only SBC programs with wins in Week #1.

Really? You know that for a fact? Have you seen the future? Illinois, Purdue, and Clemson are not top ten teams we have a decent shot a winning these games.

Come on, really! You're insulted because I don't think MT is going to beat Purdue? No, none of them are top ten teams and that's why you play the game. But Illinois and Clemson are very physical on the lines; yes more physical then SBC teams and games are won on the lines.

Purdue is a more finesse team on offense, but they spread you out and can run up the score. MT defense isn't stopping them. Now that's my opinion, you are welcome to yours. After the first week's game and we can discuss it. Thanks!

Believe you me I am not insulted that some random ULL fan on the internet picked MT to lose. I'm not sure why you think that. Anyway, you really go out on a limb with your "expert" picks . "ALL Sun Belt teams LOSE the first week!" Good luck against Oklahoma State!

Well, if going out on the limb goes against everything I've learned about football over my lifetime, then you can climb on that limb alone. There is being a homer and reality.
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RE: Week one
(08-22-2011 09:56 AM)OwlFamily Wrote:  My reply on one of the Florida message boards on how the game will go.

" Thank you for the check, and have a nice season"

:iagree:

And an extra Thank You to Auburn & MSU for bigger checks!
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RE: Week one
(08-22-2011 10:05 AM)CajunT Wrote:  
(08-22-2011 07:44 AM)MT FAN Wrote:  
(08-21-2011 10:54 PM)CajunT Wrote:  
(08-21-2011 04:13 PM)MT FAN Wrote:  
(08-21-2011 09:33 AM)CajunT Wrote:  Based upon what? When you review what Illinois is returning and the pre-season news coming out of camp, I don't see this game being anything close to an upset. Could ASU cover the point spread? Sure! All three of these game will be losses for the SBC.

FIU and ULM will be the only SBC programs with wins in Week #1.

Really? You know that for a fact? Have you seen the future? Illinois, Purdue, and Clemson are not top ten teams we have a decent shot a winning these games.

Come on, really! You're insulted because I don't think MT is going to beat Purdue? No, none of them are top ten teams and that's why you play the game. But Illinois and Clemson are very physical on the lines; yes more physical then SBC teams and games are won on the lines.

Purdue is a more finesse team on offense, but they spread you out and can run up the score. MT defense isn't stopping them. Now that's my opinion, you are welcome to yours. After the first week's game and we can discuss it. Thanks!

Believe you me I am not insulted that some random ULL fan on the internet picked MT to lose. I'm not sure why you think that. Anyway, you really go out on a limb with your "expert" picks . "ALL Sun Belt teams LOSE the first week!" Good luck against Oklahoma State!

Well, if going out on the limb goes against everything I've learned about football over my lifetime, then you can climb on that limb alone. There is being a homer and reality.

If you think the teams with the biggest Offensive/Defensive lines always win than how did ULM beat Alabama, Troy beat Missouri, MT beat Maryland (twice) and Arkansas State beat Texas A&M? All I said (in my original post) is that Troy, MT, and ASU have the best chance for an upset. I'm sorry if you got offended because I left ULL off the list. Once again, I hope you guys destroy Oklahoma State but I don't think you guys have as good a chance as the others mentioned.
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RE: Week one
(08-22-2011 10:56 AM)MT FAN Wrote:  
(08-22-2011 10:05 AM)CajunT Wrote:  
(08-22-2011 07:44 AM)MT FAN Wrote:  
(08-21-2011 10:54 PM)CajunT Wrote:  
(08-21-2011 04:13 PM)MT FAN Wrote:  Really? You know that for a fact? Have you seen the future? Illinois, Purdue, and Clemson are not top ten teams we have a decent shot a winning these games.

Come on, really! You're insulted because I don't think MT is going to beat Purdue? No, none of them are top ten teams and that's why you play the game. But Illinois and Clemson are very physical on the lines; yes more physical then SBC teams and games are won on the lines.

Purdue is a more finesse team on offense, but they spread you out and can run up the score. MT defense isn't stopping them. Now that's my opinion, you are welcome to yours. After the first week's game and we can discuss it. Thanks!

Believe you me I am not insulted that some random ULL fan on the internet picked MT to lose. I'm not sure why you think that. Anyway, you really go out on a limb with your "expert" picks . "ALL Sun Belt teams LOSE the first week!" Good luck against Oklahoma State!

Well, if going out on the limb goes against everything I've learned about football over my lifetime, then you can climb on that limb alone. There is being a homer and reality.

If you think the teams with the biggest Offensive/Defensive lines always win than how did ULM beat Alabama, Troy beat Missouri, MT beat Maryland (twice) and Arkansas State beat Texas A&M? All I said (in my original post) is that Troy, MT, and ASU have the best chance for an upset. I'm sorry if you got offended because I left ULL off the list. Once again, I hope you guys destroy Oklahoma State but I don't think you guys have as good a chance as the others mentioned.

Yes, and in between those games the SBC loses 95% of the rest. I don't think UL will cover against OSU and it's not because the Cajuns won't be that improved. OSU is a pre-season top 10 pick, return a top five offense and two Heisman candidates.

I'm not insulted, go back and read my original post....I didn't pick UL to win the first week either. I'm also sorry for not picking MTSU as a 25 program.04-rock
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RE: Week one
(08-22-2011 11:28 AM)CajunT Wrote:  
(08-22-2011 10:56 AM)MT FAN Wrote:  
(08-22-2011 10:05 AM)CajunT Wrote:  
(08-22-2011 07:44 AM)MT FAN Wrote:  
(08-21-2011 10:54 PM)CajunT Wrote:  Come on, really! You're insulted because I don't think MT is going to beat Purdue? No, none of them are top ten teams and that's why you play the game. But Illinois and Clemson are very physical on the lines; yes more physical then SBC teams and games are won on the lines.

Purdue is a more finesse team on offense, but they spread you out and can run up the score. MT defense isn't stopping them. Now that's my opinion, you are welcome to yours. After the first week's game and we can discuss it. Thanks!

Believe you me I am not insulted that some random ULL fan on the internet picked MT to lose. I'm not sure why you think that. Anyway, you really go out on a limb with your "expert" picks . "ALL Sun Belt teams LOSE the first week!" Good luck against Oklahoma State!

Well, if going out on the limb goes against everything I've learned about football over my lifetime, then you can climb on that limb alone. There is being a homer and reality.

If you think the teams with the biggest Offensive/Defensive lines always win than how did ULM beat Alabama, Troy beat Missouri, MT beat Maryland (twice) and Arkansas State beat Texas A&M? All I said (in my original post) is that Troy, MT, and ASU have the best chance for an upset. I'm sorry if you got offended because I left ULL off the list. Once again, I hope you guys destroy Oklahoma State but I don't think you guys have as good a chance as the others mentioned.

Yes, and in between those games the SBC loses 95% of the rest. I don't think UL will cover against OSU and it's not because the Cajuns won't be that improved. OSU is a pre-season top 10 pick, return a top five offense and two Heisman candidates.

I'm not insulted, go back and read my original post....I didn't pick UL to win the first week either. I'm also sorry for not picking MTSU as a 25 program.04-rock

No need to be sorry for not picking MT in the top 25. I would not place them there either. We are not that good. However, I don think its unresonable to think that we dint even have a CHANCE to beat a crappy Purdue team. Last year they only managed to beat a horrible Ball State team, Northwestern, Minnesota, and Western Illinois (1AA).
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RE: Week one
(08-22-2011 01:45 PM)MT FAN Wrote:  
(08-22-2011 11:28 AM)CajunT Wrote:  
(08-22-2011 10:56 AM)MT FAN Wrote:  
(08-22-2011 10:05 AM)CajunT Wrote:  
(08-22-2011 07:44 AM)MT FAN Wrote:  Believe you me I am not insulted that some random ULL fan on the internet picked MT to lose. I'm not sure why you think that. Anyway, you really go out on a limb with your "expert" picks . "ALL Sun Belt teams LOSE the first week!" Good luck against Oklahoma State!

Well, if going out on the limb goes against everything I've learned about football over my lifetime, then you can climb on that limb alone. There is being a homer and reality.

If you think the teams with the biggest Offensive/Defensive lines always win than how did ULM beat Alabama, Troy beat Missouri, MT beat Maryland (twice) and Arkansas State beat Texas A&M? All I said (in my original post) is that Troy, MT, and ASU have the best chance for an upset. I'm sorry if you got offended because I left ULL off the list. Once again, I hope you guys destroy Oklahoma State but I don't think you guys have as good a chance as the others mentioned.

Yes, and in between those games the SBC loses 95% of the rest. I don't think UL will cover against OSU and it's not because the Cajuns won't be that improved. OSU is a pre-season top 10 pick, return a top five offense and two Heisman candidates.

I'm not insulted, go back and read my original post....I didn't pick UL to win the first week either. I'm also sorry for not picking MTSU as a 25 program.04-rock

No need to be sorry for not picking MT in the top 25. I would not place them there either. We are not that good. However, I don think its unresonable to think that we dint even have a CHANCE to beat a crappy Purdue team. Last year they only managed to beat a horrible Ball State team, Northwestern, Minnesota, and Western Illinois (1AA).

Thats the part you don't get, its not 2010. What a team did the year before is an entirely different season. What you did against Maryland matters not once you step on the field in 2011. I doubt Purdue is a top 40 team this season as well, but they still have more talent then MTSU. I think the spread will come down for that game, but a home game for Purdue against a SBC program is a plus 14 game.
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RE: Week one
(08-22-2011 01:52 PM)CajunT Wrote:  
(08-22-2011 01:45 PM)MT FAN Wrote:  
(08-22-2011 11:28 AM)CajunT Wrote:  
(08-22-2011 10:56 AM)MT FAN Wrote:  
(08-22-2011 10:05 AM)CajunT Wrote:  Well, if going out on the limb goes against everything I've learned about football over my lifetime, then you can climb on that limb alone. There is being a homer and reality.

If you think the teams with the biggest Offensive/Defensive lines always win than how did ULM beat Alabama, Troy beat Missouri, MT beat Maryland (twice) and Arkansas State beat Texas A&M? All I said (in my original post) is that Troy, MT, and ASU have the best chance for an upset. I'm sorry if you got offended because I left ULL off the list. Once again, I hope you guys destroy Oklahoma State but I don't think you guys have as good a chance as the others mentioned.

Yes, and in between those games the SBC loses 95% of the rest. I don't think UL will cover against OSU and it's not because the Cajuns won't be that improved. OSU is a pre-season top 10 pick, return a top five offense and two Heisman candidates.

I'm not insulted, go back and read my original post....I didn't pick UL to win the first week either. I'm also sorry for not picking MTSU as a 25 program.04-rock

No need to be sorry for not picking MT in the top 25. I would not place them there either. We are not that good. However, I don think its unresonable to think that we dint even have a CHANCE to beat a crappy Purdue team. Last year they only managed to beat a horrible Ball State team, Northwestern, Minnesota, and Western Illinois (1AA).

Thats the part you don't get, its not 2010. What a team did the year before is an entirely different season. What you did against Maryland matters not once you step on the field in 2011. I doubt Purdue is a top 40 team this season as well, but they still have more talent then MTSU. I think the spread will come down for that game, but a home game for Purdue against a SBC program is a plus 14 game.

You know they have more talent than MT for a fact? Man, you sure know a whole lot. I know it's not 2010 but what you obviously don't know is that Purdue returns 17 starters off of last years awful team. I may be wrong but I doubt these players all of the sudden become more talented, maybe more experienced but not more talented. Also, Purdue running the spread is advantageous to MT. Our D practices against that and we are desinged to defend it. If they were planning on running the ball all over us I would like our chances much less. We may very well lose but its not a sure thing like you believe.
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RE: Week one
(08-22-2011 03:17 PM)MT FAN Wrote:  
(08-22-2011 01:52 PM)CajunT Wrote:  
(08-22-2011 01:45 PM)MT FAN Wrote:  
(08-22-2011 11:28 AM)CajunT Wrote:  
(08-22-2011 10:56 AM)MT FAN Wrote:  If you think the teams with the biggest Offensive/Defensive lines always win than how did ULM beat Alabama, Troy beat Missouri, MT beat Maryland (twice) and Arkansas State beat Texas A&M? All I said (in my original post) is that Troy, MT, and ASU have the best chance for an upset. I'm sorry if you got offended because I left ULL off the list. Once again, I hope you guys destroy Oklahoma State but I don't think you guys have as good a chance as the others mentioned.

Yes, and in between those games the SBC loses 95% of the rest. I don't think UL will cover against OSU and it's not because the Cajuns won't be that improved. OSU is a pre-season top 10 pick, return a top five offense and two Heisman candidates.

I'm not insulted, go back and read my original post....I didn't pick UL to win the first week either. I'm also sorry for not picking MTSU as a 25 program.04-rock

No need to be sorry for not picking MT in the top 25. I would not place them there either. We are not that good. However, I don think its unresonable to think that we dint even have a CHANCE to beat a crappy Purdue team. Last year they only managed to beat a horrible Ball State team, Northwestern, Minnesota, and Western Illinois (1AA).

Thats the part you don't get, its not 2010. What a team did the year before is an entirely different season. What you did against Maryland matters not once you step on the field in 2011. I doubt Purdue is a top 40 team this season as well, but they still have more talent then MTSU. I think the spread will come down for that game, but a home game for Purdue against a SBC program is a plus 14 game.

You know they have more talent than MT for a fact? Man, you sure know a whole lot. I know it's not 2010 but what you obviously don't know is that Purdue returns 17 starters off of last years awful team. I may be wrong but I doubt these players all of the sudden become more talented, maybe more experienced but not more talented. Also, Purdue running the spread is advantageous to MT. Our D practices against that and we are desinged to defend it. If they were planning on running the ball all over us I would like our chances much less. We may very well lose but its not a sure thing like you believe.

I'll agree with you there. Returning starters may be just one of the most irrelevant statistics in predicting future success.

I think there's at least one school in the belt that will prove that to be correct despite all of the preseason hype about how many they are returning.

Hype is just that, hype.
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RE: Week one
(08-22-2011 03:17 PM)MT FAN Wrote:  
(08-22-2011 01:52 PM)CajunT Wrote:  
(08-22-2011 01:45 PM)MT FAN Wrote:  
(08-22-2011 11:28 AM)CajunT Wrote:  
(08-22-2011 10:56 AM)MT FAN Wrote:  If you think the teams with the biggest Offensive/Defensive lines always win than how did ULM beat Alabama, Troy beat Missouri, MT beat Maryland (twice) and Arkansas State beat Texas A&M? All I said (in my original post) is that Troy, MT, and ASU have the best chance for an upset. I'm sorry if you got offended because I left ULL off the list. Once again, I hope you guys destroy Oklahoma State but I don't think you guys have as good a chance as the others mentioned.

Yes, and in between those games the SBC loses 95% of the rest. I don't think UL will cover against OSU and it's not because the Cajuns won't be that improved. OSU is a pre-season top 10 pick, return a top five offense and two Heisman candidates.

I'm not insulted, go back and read my original post....I didn't pick UL to win the first week either. I'm also sorry for not picking MTSU as a 25 program.04-rock

No need to be sorry for not picking MT in the top 25. I would not place them there either. We are not that good. However, I don think its unresonable to think that we dint even have a CHANCE to beat a crappy Purdue team. Last year they only managed to beat a horrible Ball State team, Northwestern, Minnesota, and Western Illinois (1AA).

Thats the part you don't get, its not 2010. What a team did the year before is an entirely different season. What you did against Maryland matters not once you step on the field in 2011. I doubt Purdue is a top 40 team this season as well, but they still have more talent then MTSU. I think the spread will come down for that game, but a home game for Purdue against a SBC program is a plus 14 game.

You know they have more talent than MT for a fact? Man, you sure know a whole lot. I know it's not 2010 but what you obviously don't know is that Purdue returns 17 starters off of last years awful team. I may be wrong but I doubt these players all of the sudden become more talented, maybe more experienced but not more talented. Also, Purdue running the spread is advantageous to MT. Our D practices against that and we are desinged to defend it. If they were planning on running the ball all over us I would like our chances much less. We may very well lose but its not a sure thing like you believe.

Yes, and those 17 starters played against a Big 10 schedule and MT return its starters from a 6-7 season played in the Sun Belt Conference. The only people not believing Purdue has more talent then MT, are the same people that believing a team with a losing record in 2010 is going to go up to Lafayette, Indiana and shut them down at home. Good luck with that! Impossible, no....likely, no!
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RE: Week one
(08-22-2011 03:56 PM)AstroCajun Wrote:  
(08-22-2011 03:17 PM)MT FAN Wrote:  
(08-22-2011 01:52 PM)CajunT Wrote:  
(08-22-2011 01:45 PM)MT FAN Wrote:  
(08-22-2011 11:28 AM)CajunT Wrote:  Yes, and in between those games the SBC loses 95% of the rest. I don't think UL will cover against OSU and it's not because the Cajuns won't be that improved. OSU is a pre-season top 10 pick, return a top five offense and two Heisman candidates.

I'm not insulted, go back and read my original post....I didn't pick UL to win the first week either. I'm also sorry for not picking MTSU as a 25 program.04-rock

No need to be sorry for not picking MT in the top 25. I would not place them there either. We are not that good. However, I don think its unresonable to think that we dint even have a CHANCE to beat a crappy Purdue team. Last year they only managed to beat a horrible Ball State team, Northwestern, Minnesota, and Western Illinois (1AA).

Thats the part you don't get, its not 2010. What a team did the year before is an entirely different season. What you did against Maryland matters not once you step on the field in 2011. I doubt Purdue is a top 40 team this season as well, but they still have more talent then MTSU. I think the spread will come down for that game, but a home game for Purdue against a SBC program is a plus 14 game.

You know they have more talent than MT for a fact? Man, you sure know a whole lot. I know it's not 2010 but what you obviously don't know is that Purdue returns 17 starters off of last years awful team. I may be wrong but I doubt these players all of the sudden become more talented, maybe more experienced but not more talented. Also, Purdue running the spread is advantageous to MT. Our D practices against that and we are desinged to defend it. If they were planning on running the ball all over us I would like our chances much less. We may very well lose but its not a sure thing like you believe.

I'll agree with you there. Returning starters may be just one of the most irrelevant statistics in predicting future success.

I think there's at least one school in the belt that will prove that to be correct despite all of the preseason hype about how many they are returning.

Hype is just that, hype.

It gets confusing, be we are talking about a team with 17 returning staters that finished with a losing record against a Big 10 schedule and one playing against a SBC schedule. Two entirely different conferences.
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(08-22-2011 04:32 PM)CajunT Wrote:  
(08-22-2011 03:56 PM)AstroCajun Wrote:  
(08-22-2011 03:17 PM)MT FAN Wrote:  
(08-22-2011 01:52 PM)CajunT Wrote:  
(08-22-2011 01:45 PM)MT FAN Wrote:  No need to be sorry for not picking MT in the top 25. I would not place them there either. We are not that good. However, I don think its unresonable to think that we dint even have a CHANCE to beat a crappy Purdue team. Last year they only managed to beat a horrible Ball State team, Northwestern, Minnesota, and Western Illinois (1AA).

Thats the part you don't get, its not 2010. What a team did the year before is an entirely different season. What you did against Maryland matters not once you step on the field in 2011. I doubt Purdue is a top 40 team this season as well, but they still have more talent then MTSU. I think the spread will come down for that game, but a home game for Purdue against a SBC program is a plus 14 game.

You know they have more talent than MT for a fact? Man, you sure know a whole lot. I know it's not 2010 but what you obviously don't know is that Purdue returns 17 starters off of last years awful team. I may be wrong but I doubt these players all of the sudden become more talented, maybe more experienced but not more talented. Also, Purdue running the spread is advantageous to MT. Our D practices against that and we are desinged to defend it. If they were planning on running the ball all over us I would like our chances much less. We may very well lose but its not a sure thing like you believe.

I'll agree with you there. Returning starters may be just one of the most irrelevant statistics in predicting future success.

I think there's at least one school in the belt that will prove that to be correct despite all of the preseason hype about how many they are returning.

Hype is just that, hype.

It gets confusing, be we are talking about a team with 17 returning staters that finished with a losing record against a Big 10 schedule and one playing against a SBC schedule. Two entirely different conferences.

They were not even competitive in the Big Ten. They lost to Ohio State 49-0, Illinois 44-10, Wisconsin 34-13 and the only other games they lost that were within a touchdown were Indiana and Michigan State. They loss to Toledo by 10 last year! Wait... I thought you said only teams that have big offensive/Defensive lines and play in the AQ conferences can beat Purdue? Toledo is in the MAC! They also barely beat Western Illinois (1AA) by 10, Northwestern by 3, Ball State (horrible) by 7, and Minnesota by 11.

I'm through messing with you because you obviously have trouble with logic and reasoning and it would be futile to continue any further. By the way, just because ULL can't beat AQ teams doesn't mean the rest of the Sun Belt can't.
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RE: Week one
(08-22-2011 05:19 PM)MT FAN Wrote:  
(08-22-2011 04:32 PM)CajunT Wrote:  
(08-22-2011 03:56 PM)AstroCajun Wrote:  
(08-22-2011 03:17 PM)MT FAN Wrote:  
(08-22-2011 01:52 PM)CajunT Wrote:  Thats the part you don't get, its not 2010. What a team did the year before is an entirely different season. What you did against Maryland matters not once you step on the field in 2011. I doubt Purdue is a top 40 team this season as well, but they still have more talent then MTSU. I think the spread will come down for that game, but a home game for Purdue against a SBC program is a plus 14 game.

You know they have more talent than MT for a fact? Man, you sure know a whole lot. I know it's not 2010 but what you obviously don't know is that Purdue returns 17 starters off of last years awful team. I may be wrong but I doubt these players all of the sudden become more talented, maybe more experienced but not more talented. Also, Purdue running the spread is advantageous to MT. Our D practices against that and we are desinged to defend it. If they were planning on running the ball all over us I would like our chances much less. We may very well lose but its not a sure thing like you believe.

I'll agree with you there. Returning starters may be just one of the most irrelevant statistics in predicting future success.

I think there's at least one school in the belt that will prove that to be correct despite all of the preseason hype about how many they are returning.

Hype is just that, hype.

It gets confusing, be we are talking about a team with 17 returning staters that finished with a losing record against a Big 10 schedule and one playing against a SBC schedule. Two entirely different conferences.

They were not even competitive in the Big Ten. They lost to Ohio State 49-0, Illinois 44-10, Wisconsin 34-13 and the only other games they lost that were within a touchdown were Indiana and Michigan State. They loss to Toledo by 10 last year! Wait... I thought you said only teams that have big offensive/Defensive lines and play in the AQ conferences can beat Purdue? Toledo is in the MAC! They also barely beat Western Illinois (1AA) by 10, Northwestern by 3, Ball State (horrible) by 7, and Minnesota by 11.

I'm through messing with you because you obviously have trouble with logic and reasoning and it would be futile to continue any further. By the way, just because ULL can't beat AQ teams doesn't mean the rest of the Sun Belt can't.

Logic? Ummmm okay. We will visit this thread after the first week of games.
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RE: Week one
(08-22-2011 05:19 PM)MT FAN Wrote:  
(08-22-2011 04:32 PM)CajunT Wrote:  
(08-22-2011 03:56 PM)AstroCajun Wrote:  
(08-22-2011 03:17 PM)MT FAN Wrote:  
(08-22-2011 01:52 PM)CajunT Wrote:  Thats the part you don't get, its not 2010. What a team did the year before is an entirely different season. What you did against Maryland matters not once you step on the field in 2011. I doubt Purdue is a top 40 team this season as well, but they still have more talent then MTSU. I think the spread will come down for that game, but a home game for Purdue against a SBC program is a plus 14 game.

You know they have more talent than MT for a fact? Man, you sure know a whole lot. I know it's not 2010 but what you obviously don't know is that Purdue returns 17 starters off of last years awful team. I may be wrong but I doubt these players all of the sudden become more talented, maybe more experienced but not more talented. Also, Purdue running the spread is advantageous to MT. Our D practices against that and we are desinged to defend it. If they were planning on running the ball all over us I would like our chances much less. We may very well lose but its not a sure thing like you believe.

I'll agree with you there. Returning starters may be just one of the most irrelevant statistics in predicting future success.

I think there's at least one school in the belt that will prove that to be correct despite all of the preseason hype about how many they are returning.

Hype is just that, hype.

It gets confusing, be we are talking about a team with 17 returning staters that finished with a losing record against a Big 10 schedule and one playing against a SBC schedule. Two entirely different conferences.

They were not even competitive in the Big Ten. They lost to Ohio State 49-0, Illinois 44-10, Wisconsin 34-13 and the only other games they lost that were within a touchdown were Indiana and Michigan State. They loss to Toledo by 10 last year! Wait... I thought you said only teams that have big offensive/Defensive lines and play in the AQ conferences can beat Purdue? Toledo is in the MAC! They also barely beat Western Illinois (1AA) by 10, Northwestern by 3, Ball State (horrible) by 7, and Minnesota by 11.

I'm through messing with you because you obviously have trouble with logic and reasoning and it would be futile to continue any further. By the way, just because ULL can't beat AQ teams doesn't mean the rest of the Sun Belt can't.

Not that I agree with this guy because clearly he has a chip on his shoulder, but ULL did beat Kansas State in 2009. Not exactly the premiere AQ team, but a win nonetheless.
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I think and hope all of you assuming playing NT is an easy win are going to be very surprised. FIU may be too much in Miami, to start off; but NT is not going to be the pushover many expect. NT suffered through a horrible injury year and a bad coaching situation and only got beat in conference bad once by FIU last year while playing a walk on fourth string QB.

As far as other week one games, all those away guaranteed games don't bode well for wins. I hope all the Belt teams do well in nc play but it is not likely in week one. However, WKU playing Kentucky would be my best bet for a NC victory.
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(08-22-2011 06:40 PM)Grandgreen Wrote:  I think and hope all of you assuming playing NT is an easy win are going to be very surprised. FIU may be too much in Miami, to start off; but NT is not going to be the pushover many expect. NT suffered through a horrible injury year and a bad coaching situation and only got beat in conference bad once by FIU last year while playing a walk on fourth string QB.

As far as other week one games, all those away guaranteed games don't bode well for wins. I hope all the Belt teams do well in nc play but it is not likely in week one. However, WKU playing Kentucky would be my best bet for a NC victory.
UNT may have had a few years of bad luck, you guys always seem to be a tough W for whoever you play in the Sunbelt.
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(08-22-2011 06:39 PM)westcoastwolf Wrote:  
(08-22-2011 05:19 PM)MT FAN Wrote:  
(08-22-2011 04:32 PM)CajunT Wrote:  
(08-22-2011 03:56 PM)AstroCajun Wrote:  
(08-22-2011 03:17 PM)MT FAN Wrote:  You know they have more talent than MT for a fact? Man, you sure know a whole lot. I know it's not 2010 but what you obviously don't know is that Purdue returns 17 starters off of last years awful team. I may be wrong but I doubt these players all of the sudden become more talented, maybe more experienced but not more talented. Also, Purdue running the spread is advantageous to MT. Our D practices against that and we are desinged to defend it. If they were planning on running the ball all over us I would like our chances much less. We may very well lose but its not a sure thing like you believe.

I'll agree with you there. Returning starters may be just one of the most irrelevant statistics in predicting future success.

I think there's at least one school in the belt that will prove that to be correct despite all of the preseason hype about how many they are returning.

Hype is just that, hype.

It gets confusing, be we are talking about a team with 17 returning staters that finished with a losing record against a Big 10 schedule and one playing against a SBC schedule. Two entirely different conferences.

They were not even competitive in the Big Ten. They lost to Ohio State 49-0, Illinois 44-10, Wisconsin 34-13 and the only other games they lost that were within a touchdown were Indiana and Michigan State. They loss to Toledo by 10 last year! Wait... I thought you said only teams that have big offensive/Defensive lines and play in the AQ conferences can beat Purdue? Toledo is in the MAC! They also barely beat Western Illinois (1AA) by 10, Northwestern by 3, Ball State (horrible) by 7, and Minnesota by 11.

I'm through messing with you because you obviously have trouble with logic and reasoning and it would be futile to continue any further. By the way, just because ULL can't beat AQ teams doesn't mean the rest of the Sun Belt can't.

Not that I agree with this guy because clearly he has a chip on his shoulder, but ULL did beat Kansas State in 2009. Not exactly the premiere AQ team, but a win nonetheless.

LOL!!!Chip on my shoulder because I don't agree with him? Seriously, 75% of the country would agree with me, but I have a chip on my shoulder. BTW, I never mentioned anything about Kansas St. because they were a poor team. 03-lmfao
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(08-22-2011 08:50 PM)CajunT Wrote:  
(08-22-2011 06:39 PM)westcoastwolf Wrote:  
(08-22-2011 05:19 PM)MT FAN Wrote:  
(08-22-2011 04:32 PM)CajunT Wrote:  
(08-22-2011 03:56 PM)AstroCajun Wrote:  I'll agree with you there. Returning starters may be just one of the most irrelevant statistics in predicting future success.

I think there's at least one school in the belt that will prove that to be correct despite all of the preseason hype about how many they are returning.

Hype is just that, hype.

It gets confusing, be we are talking about a team with 17 returning staters that finished with a losing record against a Big 10 schedule and one playing against a SBC schedule. Two entirely different conferences.

They were not even competitive in the Big Ten. They lost to Ohio State 49-0, Illinois 44-10, Wisconsin 34-13 and the only other games they lost that were within a touchdown were Indiana and Michigan State. They loss to Toledo by 10 last year! Wait... I thought you said only teams that have big offensive/Defensive lines and play in the AQ conferences can beat Purdue? Toledo is in the MAC! They also barely beat Western Illinois (1AA) by 10, Northwestern by 3, Ball State (horrible) by 7, and Minnesota by 11.

I'm through messing with you because you obviously have trouble with logic and reasoning and it would be futile to continue any further. By the way, just because ULL can't beat AQ teams doesn't mean the rest of the Sun Belt can't.

Not that I agree with this guy because clearly he has a chip on his shoulder, but ULL did beat Kansas State in 2009. Not exactly the premiere AQ team, but a win nonetheless.

LOL!!!Chip on my shoulder because I don't agree with him? Seriously, 75% of the country would agree with me, but I have a chip on my shoulder. BTW, I never mentioned anything about Kansas St. because they were a poor team. 03-lmfao

I just argued for your behalf, but somehow you are arguing with me.
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