With fall approaching, this is your ETSU Athletic Department at its best:

http://www.etsubucs.com/mcc/news/2011-12...-luncheon/

(08-13-2011 08:31 AM)Buc66 Wrote:  With fall approaching, this is your ETSU Athletic Department at its best:

http://www.etsubucs.com/mcc/news/2011-12...-luncheon/

Here we are a major university and all they have to do for the entire Fall is to let the minor sports play out. They do not have to worry about selling all those tickets. Organizing all of that parking. All those tailgate parties. All of those pep rallies. All that music from the marching band. And they do not have to deal with all of those pesky television people from ESPN or SportsSouth wanting to come in and put up all the cameras and put the team on regional tv. Nope they are free from all of that. Just sit back and let the minor sports play. When does the new president take office?

They didn't have to worry about that when footbal was here, so why would they have to worry about it now???

I'm not sure there's ever been a greater disparity between "tone of music" and "banality of actions" in the history of YouTube videos. Try singing along with the video in tune to that Pirates of the Caribbean theme. "Sitting! at a table! chatting...with reporters! da dah dah dah, da dah dah da DAH!!"

(08-13-2011 06:25 PM)GoBucsGo Wrote:  They didn't have to worry about that when footbal was here, so why would they have to worry about it now???

They sure did when I went to ETSU. And they will again when these people are gone.

So when did they fill the stadium when you were a student/attendee? I don't want "it sure seemed like there were a lot of people there..." Specifics.

(08-13-2011 08:39 PM)GoBucsGo Wrote:  So when did they fill the stadium when you were a student/attendee? I don't want "it sure seemed like there were a lot of people there..." Specifics.

There were many games with thousands of people in attendance. That was thousands more than go to soccer games. Students actually had pep rallies. There was a real homecoming that had a parade and floats and a packed stadium instead of poetry slams and book fairs that the present people give us. Students now have three months of frisbee tossing. Please give us a decent president!

Hey let's all tailgate around the cross country trail, I swear its just like football tailgating

I know that Stanton has admitted his mistake...and I thought he going to correct it before leaving office. Now I don't think there is time or is it he decided to leave things alone. I wonder if TBR doesn't want ETSU to have football and that's where all of this began. What's going on behind the scenes? Where is the Lt. Governor in all of this? I doubt Haslam cares about ETSU football one way or the other.

The fact ETSU didn't worry about fannies in the seats is why there weren't any. Their effort was just a little short of what John Battle puts forth to sell football tickets.
As for the luncheon, great idea. Offer sportswriters free food to come talk to the coaches of irrelevant sports. Make those coaches feel important, get little Joe, Kelly and the others a free meal followed by a nice piece on the XC team and how popular/relevant college communist kickball has become. Shoot, I'm suprised ESPN doesn't have Gameday from Men's Soccer matches already!

(08-13-2011 07:41 PM)HatterFan Wrote:  I'm not sure there's ever been a greater disparity between "tone of music" and "banality of actions" in the history of YouTube videos. Try singing along with the video in tune to that Pirates of the Caribbean theme. "Sitting! at a table! chatting...with reporters! da dah dah dah, da dah dah da DAH!!"

And a slow-mo shot of Dave Walker, since he just moves so fast at his age.

One other thing that I have not seen mentioned.. and I believe it's going to soon become a big negative for ETSU..

For years a majority of the football coaches in our area schools from grade school through high school were former ETSU football players!!!
These guys are reaching retirement age now in great numbers...

You can add band directors to this discussion as well..

These people were great ambassadors for ETSU with students (both athletes and non-athletes) who are deciding where to go to college..

Where are the football coaches coming from now..UT, Tusculum, Carson Newman.. but not ETSU..

You might not agree, but I think this is a really bad thing for my school, and another big reason to play football again as soon as possible.

(08-16-2011 01:18 PM)bucfan1968 Wrote:  One other thing that I have not seen mentioned.. and I believe it's going to soon become a big negative for ETSU..

For years a majority of the football coaches in our area schools from grade school through high school were former ETSU football players!!!
These guys are reaching retirement age now in great numbers...

You can add band directors to this discussion as well..

These people were great ambassadors for ETSU with students (both athletes and non-athletes) who are deciding where to go to college..

Where are the football coaches coming from now..UT, Tusculum, Carson Newman.. but not ETSU..

You might not agree, but I think this is a really bad thing for my school, and another big reason to play football again as soon as possible.

Another huge reason the new president should make this one of the top priorities. Football and a marching band like all the other state universities in Tennessee. ETSU needs to become a state university again.

(08-16-2011 01:38 PM)bucfan81 Wrote:  

(08-16-2011 01:18 PM)bucfan1968 Wrote:  One other thing that I have not seen mentioned.. and I believe it's going to soon become a big negative for ETSU..

For years a majority of the football coaches in our area schools from grade school through high school were former ETSU football players!!!
These guys are reaching retirement age now in great numbers...

You can add band directors to this discussion as well..

These people were great ambassadors for ETSU with students (both athletes and non-athletes) who are deciding where to go to college..

Where are the football coaches coming from now..UT, Tusculum, Carson Newman.. but not ETSU..

You might not agree, but I think this is a really bad thing for my school, and another big reason to play football again as soon as possible.

Another huge reason the new president should make this one of the top priorities. Football and a marching band like all the other state universities in Tennessee. ETSU needs to become a state university again.

Right on target. Point well made.

I suppose that the following is available now for the area high school futbol coaches:

http://www.sportscienceed.com/register-f...e-college/

This is beyond all pretentiousness. It is sickening. Warning, don't view the Mullins "interview" if you don't want to lose your last meal. The depth that ETSU athletics has fallen is displayed here in all its ugliness as real colleges approach the fall athletic season around the country. DISGUSTING!!!

http://www.etsubucs.com/news/archives/20...s-preview/

(08-13-2011 08:39 PM)GoBucsGo Wrote:  So when did they fill the stadium when you were a student/attendee? I don't want "it sure seemed like there were a lot of people there..." Specifics.

1996, in the playoff game against Villanova.

It's impossible to get any more specific than that without being inside the administration because the data isn't out there on the internet.

Official Villanova game attendance: 4,939

That would have been approximately 7,000 short of a sellout. And in fact, Cavan was quoted after the game about how disappointed he was in ETSU's fans for their lack of support. And many in the media later suggested that this was one of the major reasons Cavan literally jumped at the first job that came along later that year.

While fans may want football in the future, rewriting the past or overexagerating what attendance was like "back in the day" is not helpful. I believe we can all agree that any future football effort will have to be on a completely different level than the past, and no one can deny that local support will have to be "much" greater than it was in the 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s, etc.

The effort has to be on both ends, though. There was little to no effort to put butts in the seats and create a positive gameday experience for everyone from the families that go to the meathead messageboard guy who probably has high blood pressure and drinks too much Johnnie Walker Black. Marshall that year was the sellout I believe. The past doesn't need rewriting, it needs remembered so when football does come back, the same mistakes aren't made again.
As for Cavan taking off to SMU, one could argue he had delusions of reinventing the Pony Express, he just didn't have the facilities in Dallas to win.

Yes it is unproductive to harp on the past. ETSU had many sell outs in the past and will have sell outs in the future. What everyone needs to do is stop making excuses and get together and start the fund raising NOW and get it done. ETSU needs a marching band. We are tired of being the laughing stock of the state and having to listen to people defending being the laughing stock. Start now and get an FCS football team back on campus. The minor sports are well and good and I support them but we have to move from JUST having minor sports. A little cooperation is greatly needed and will be supported and appreciated.

(08-18-2011 12:27 PM)bucfan81 Wrote:  Yes it is unproductive to harp on the past. ETSU had many sell outs in the past and will have sell outs in the future. What everyone needs to do is stop making excuses and get together and start the fund raising NOW and get it done. ETSU needs a marching band. We are tired of being the laughing stock of the state and having to listen to people defending being the laughing stock. Start now and get an FCS football team back on campus. The minor sports are well and good and I support them but we have to move from JUST having minor sports. A little cooperation is greatly needed and will be supported and appreciated.

Thing about it, even when things were not going well in football, there was always hope, always another season, always something to build from. Without football, there's nothing to hope for, nothing to build from, nothing to look forward to in the fall. Of course they botched it and failed to bring fans onto the campus like they should have. There were some sell outs (I remember being there). That Marshall game in '96 was for the Southern Conference championship - I believe over 13,000 were packed into the dome for that one. Winning that game and the championship, I believe, would have gone a long way toward saving football. YES, bring it back Mr. New President and get Buc sports back on track.