(07-11-2011 01:34 PM)hawghiggs Wrote:  

(07-11-2011 12:40 PM)HtownOrange Wrote:  

(07-11-2011 11:27 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(07-11-2011 09:57 AM)HtownOrange Wrote:  Stop being pansies. LSU plays good teams, home and away. Florida refuses to play OOC games outside Florida (20 years running!) - Though playing FSU is a usually a good game, they need to play elsewhere, too. Playing the occasional game or series with a name is not on par with playing at least one or two high level games per year on the road. Everyone agrees that winning at home is generally much easier than on the road. Once it becomes a routine experience (ala LSU, Tennessee), then the SEC will be able to dispell the complaint.

First, i doubt that dispelling that complaint is a high SEC priority. You have to remember that SEC football programs have very high attendance (IIRC, about 75,000 average last year), which means a team makes about $5 million per home game.

That's more money than the team will get in overall bowl payouts from the conference, and it's 1/3 to 1/4 of the money it gets overall from the conference!

It would be extremely stupid for these teams to play more road games. They'd lose millions per game, and money is King.

Besides, even leaving money aside, whether a team's schedule is "pansy" or not ultimately depends on its overall SOS, not just its OOC SOS. Here are Sagarin SOS ratings for SEC and Big East teams last year:

SEC

Arkansas ..... 11
South Car .... 12
Auburn ....... 13
Alabama...... 14
LSU ............ 15
Florida ........ 21
Miss State ... 30
Ole Miss ...... 34
Georgia ....... 36
Vandy ......... 42
Tennessee ... 43
Kentucky ..... 63

SEC average: 27.8

Big East

Cincy ............ 35
Pitt ............... 38
WVU ............. 60
Uconn ........... 65
Rutgers ......... 67
USF .............. 71
Syracuse ....... 73
UofL ............. 75

Big East average: 60.5

So the SEC's average SOS is 7 points better than the Big East's best SOS.

Thus, it's hard to take seriously a Syracuse fan complaining about SEC schedules, eh?

QV, quick points:

1) Syracuse' SOS was weakened when VPI backed out of their commitment and we had to replace them with Colgate. We don'tusually play two body bag FCS games, check the history.

2) Your SOS rankings by themselves should be sufficient to prove to you that the formula is skewed. You cannot have all winners in any one conference. I know you are using info that is available, but to average so well, there is bias. Kentucky probably would not have fared better in the Big East than they did the SEC, by the SOS rankings, they would be mid-pack. Why not include the criteria used to create the SOS rankings?

3) As to the issue of attendance, I already covered that in a post, but intellectual honesty would require you to admit that and you haven't. I freely stated that I would not change unless forced to because the $$ money helps the school.

Kentucky would have won the Big East last season.

This is at best an idiotic statement.

According to Sagarins, Kentucky would have ended the season in 7th place out of 8 teams in the BE, and just ahead of Rutgers. So that means that if Kentucky had played a BE schedule, they would have been favored in only one game. Sure games are played on the field ond not on paper but, these stats just goes to show how ridiculously dumb your statement is. You need to spend more time on the SEC boards if you are going to spew this kind of nonsense on our board.

cuse, I guess the one game was the Louisville game...

(07-11-2011 08:54 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  cuse, I guess the one game was the Louisville game...

I dont know how Louisville ended up losing to Kentucky last year. But Louisville was the 5th place BE team last year. I think that had Louisille met Kentucky in a bowl last year rather than Charlie Strongs very first game as a head coach that the results would have been different.

Perhaps. We'll find out this fall...

(07-11-2011 01:34 PM)hawghiggs Wrote:  Kentucky would have won the Big East last season.

I like you Hawg, but that post was just NITWITTED Hate to say, UK certainly would have finished ahead of us though