Its been 60 days, where is the Congressional authorization? And by the way, it IS a War.


British attack helicopters to be deployed to Libya.

The Daily Telegraph has learned that Apache helicopters will fly into Libya from a Royal Navy warship, in a joint operation with the French.

As many as 18 British and French helicopters will be deployed to support rebels trying to consolidate gains against Gaddafi’s forces.

The helicopter operation – expected to be supported by Special Forces troops – will take the allies closer still to a full ground operation in Libya.

Whitehall officials said that later this week, the Apaches will begin flying missions in from HMS Ocean, a helicopter carrier in the Mediterranean.

Their use was authorised by David Cameron at a meeting of the National Security Council after the Prime Minister asked military chiefs for new ways to increase the pressure on the Libyan regime.

The Anglo-French operation in Libya is now in its third month, with warplanes targeting Gaddafi’s forces with bombs and missiles on a daily basis.

Despite repeated claims that the regime is weakening, ministers are increasingly anxious about the rebels’ lack of progress against loyalist forces.

The helicopters will help replace low-flying American gunships that were withdrawn from the operation in March by President Barack Obama, who arrives in London today for talks with Mr Cameron.

Officials said that Britain and France will continue to press Mr Obama to commit more US forces to the Libyan operation, although the president remains reluctant.

Military experts said deploying helicopters will make the Nato campaign more effective, but not without risks.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnew...Libya.html

We're doing just enough to create a stalemate. And stalemate=quagmire.

In to win, or don't go in.

Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, now Libya?

(05-23-2011 07:22 PM)WMD Owl Wrote:  Its been 60 days, where is the Congressional authorization? And by the way, it IS a War.


British attack helicopters to be deployed to Libya.

The Daily Telegraph has learned that Apache helicopters will fly into Libya from a Royal Navy warship, in a joint operation with the French.

As many as 18 British and French helicopters will be deployed to support rebels trying to consolidate gains against Gaddafi’s forces.

The helicopter operation – expected to be supported by Special Forces troops – will take the allies closer still to a full ground operation in Libya.

Whitehall officials said that later this week, the Apaches will begin flying missions in from HMS Ocean, a helicopter carrier in the Mediterranean.

Their use was authorised by David Cameron at a meeting of the National Security Council after the Prime Minister asked military chiefs for new ways to increase the pressure on the Libyan regime.

The Anglo-French operation in Libya is now in its third month, with warplanes targeting Gaddafi’s forces with bombs and missiles on a daily basis.

Despite repeated claims that the regime is weakening, ministers are increasingly anxious about the rebels’ lack of progress against loyalist forces.

The helicopters will help replace low-flying American gunships that were withdrawn from the operation in March by President Barack Obama, who arrives in London today for talks with Mr Cameron.

Officials said that Britain and France will continue to press Mr Obama to commit more US forces to the Libyan operation, although the president remains reluctant.

Military experts said deploying helicopters will make the Nato campaign more effective, but not without risks.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnew...Libya.html

Every President since Vietnam has maintained the War Powers Resolution is Unconstitutional. Until the supreme court makes a ruling it is irrelevant. Of course Congress could always cut off the funding for the war effort, but there isn't anywhere near the votes to make that happen in either the House or Senate.

Is this an Impeachable offence as was Andrew Johnson with the Tenure of Office Act (1867)? Johnson was impeached and came 1 vote short of removal from office in the senate.

SCOTUS declared the Tenure of Office Act unconstitutional later in 1926. SCOTUS is always an hour late and a dollar short.

Congress has delegated its responsibility to the POTUS. They are simply cowardly, clueless bureaucrats that are in power for the benefit of those that put them there and themselves. They claim to have the nation in their best interest. I say they are full of sh!t!!

The blood of our brave lost sons and daughters in the numerous US boondoggles lies directly in the hands of those in the House and Senate. I have absolutely zero respect for our legislative body as whole. The few sane members always get shouted down,called unpatriotic and are marginalized. Meanwhile untold trillions of dollars of wasted capital is spent pursuing totally unconstitutional wars and occupations of others sovereign soils.

Security is one thing...Imperialism and constant meddling in the affairs of other nations is another thing all together.

To quote the great Richard Pryor...."How long?....How long must this Bull Sh!t go on?!!":banghead:

(05-23-2011 07:27 PM)Know Nothing Wrote:  

(05-23-2011 07:22 PM)WMD Owl Wrote:  Its been 60 days, where is the Congressional authorization? And by the way, it IS a War.


British attack helicopters to be deployed to Libya.

The Daily Telegraph has learned that Apache helicopters will fly into Libya from a Royal Navy warship, in a joint operation with the French.

As many as 18 British and French helicopters will be deployed to support rebels trying to consolidate gains against Gaddafi’s forces.

The helicopter operation – expected to be supported by Special Forces troops – will take the allies closer still to a full ground operation in Libya.

Whitehall officials said that later this week, the Apaches will begin flying missions in from HMS Ocean, a helicopter carrier in the Mediterranean.

Their use was authorised by David Cameron at a meeting of the National Security Council after the Prime Minister asked military chiefs for new ways to increase the pressure on the Libyan regime.

The Anglo-French operation in Libya is now in its third month, with warplanes targeting Gaddafi’s forces with bombs and missiles on a daily basis.

Despite repeated claims that the regime is weakening, ministers are increasingly anxious about the rebels’ lack of progress against loyalist forces.

The helicopters will help replace low-flying American gunships that were withdrawn from the operation in March by President Barack Obama, who arrives in London today for talks with Mr Cameron.

Officials said that Britain and France will continue to press Mr Obama to commit more US forces to the Libyan operation, although the president remains reluctant.

Military experts said deploying helicopters will make the Nato campaign more effective, but not without risks.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnew...Libya.html

Every President since Vietnam has maintained the War Powers Resolution is Unconstitutional. Until the supreme court makes a ruling it is irrelevant. Of course Congress could always cut off the funding for the war effort, but there isn't anywhere near the votes to make that happen in either the House or Senate.

Lets put it up for a Vote.. at least in the House. Make Obama put down a marker "This isn't really a war so WPA doesn't apply."

(05-23-2011 07:36 PM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  Is this an Impeachable offence as was Andrew Johnson with the Tenure of Office Act (1867)? Johnson was impeached and came 1 vote short of removal from office in the senate.

SCOTUS declared the Tenure of Office Act unconstitutional later in 1926. SCOTUS is always an hour late and a dollar short.

Constitution 101: The Constitution defines impeachable offenses as "treason, bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors"

Any other words, anything is an impeachable offense if you have the votes in Congress.

(05-23-2011 07:36 PM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  Is this an Impeachable offence as was Andrew Johnson with the Tenure of Office Act (1867)? Johnson was impeached and came 1 vote short of removal from office in the senate.

SCOTUS declared the Tenure of Office Act unconstitutional later in 1926. SCOTUS is always an hour late and a dollar short.

What we currently have in the SCOTUS is a mere shell of justice and common sense.