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OT: To See or Not to See, THAT is the Question
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RE: OT: To See or Not to See, THAT is the Question
well i respectfully disagree with Obama and all of those who agree with him. that is my right just as it is yours. these photos are going to emerge eventually, nothing will stop that. holding them now makes it look like we are hiding something.

btw Jag, i edited my previous post while you were typing yours. would you mind removing the quote so they match?
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RE: OT: To See or Not to See, THAT is the Question
I think they should release the photos. Most definitely.

But I'm also not going to waste my time giving a **** if they don't. The guy is dead. He isn't going to be more dead if I get to see a photo of the moment. Besides, it isn't like those crazy ******** in the Middle East ever needed help getting up for killing people so releasing the photo wouldn't make a bit of a difference.

Now, you all have fun arguing over a picture that you haven't even seen and that wouldn't change a damn thing if you did.
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RE: OT: To See or Not to See, THAT is the Question
(05-05-2011 10:52 AM)Burn the Horse Wrote:  well i respectfully disagree with Obama and all of those who agree with him. that is my right just as it is yours. these photos are going to emerge eventually, nothing will stop that. holding them now makes it look like we are hiding something.

btw Jag, i edited my previous post while you were typing yours. would you mind removing the quote so they match?

Done.
I hope you didn't interpret my disagreement with you as an insistence that you couldn't voice your opinion.
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RE: OT: To See or Not to See, THAT is the Question
They won't show us Osama pics, but they will show us the others?

Warning....graphic....
http://www.foxnews.com/slideshow/world/2...y/#slide=6
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RE: OT: To See or Not to See, THAT is the Question
(05-05-2011 10:40 AM)Burn the Horse Wrote:  how can you say with certainty that releasing the photos would "incite violence?" I look at it the other way. By NOT releasing them you give the conspiracy theorists and the radicals who seek to harm us a way to say, "No he isn't dead." That in itself is a problem. If we have eliminated him then we need to make it clear. Do not give the terrorists a platform to stand on.

BTW, this also hurts our credibility. When we killed Sadam's kids we showed their pictures (very gory mind you), when we killed that other Al-Qaeda general we showed his images as well. By NOT showing this image you give ground to doubt. If we have shown all the other photos but wont show this one, perhaps we didn't kill him. I do not believe that myself, but it is, according to the Today Show, a popular mindset right now in the Middle East. That is potentially very dangerous. Since we dumped his body overboard and cannot produce a body now, the radicals could claim we are holding him at GITMO. That could rally our enemies just as easily, perhaps even more so, than his images.

the movement away from our normal policy is what is going to hurt us. its like blackjack, play the same way every hand or risk hurting everyone at the table. you have to stick to a policy or people around the world will distrust us even more than they already do. even those who support Obama's decision have to acknowledge that.
The only leg the terrorists have to stand on is Bin Laden on a live feed giving a speech saying he isn't dead. Nobody is denying he is dead in Pakistan. The Taliban is saying they will retaliate. Anyone who says he is alive probably stakes out motel diners for a shot of Elvis. This is getting nutty.
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RE: OT: To See or Not to See, THAT is the Question
(05-05-2011 01:19 PM)panama Wrote:  
(05-05-2011 10:40 AM)Burn the Horse Wrote:  how can you say with certainty that releasing the photos would "incite violence?" I look at it the other way. By NOT releasing them you give the conspiracy theorists and the radicals who seek to harm us a way to say, "No he isn't dead." That in itself is a problem. If we have eliminated him then we need to make it clear. Do not give the terrorists a platform to stand on.

BTW, this also hurts our credibility. When we killed Sadam's kids we showed their pictures (very gory mind you), when we killed that other Al-Qaeda general we showed his images as well. By NOT showing this image you give ground to doubt. If we have shown all the other photos but wont show this one, perhaps we didn't kill him. I do not believe that myself, but it is, according to the Today Show, a popular mindset right now in the Middle East. That is potentially very dangerous. Since we dumped his body overboard and cannot produce a body now, the radicals could claim we are holding him at GITMO. That could rally our enemies just as easily, perhaps even more so, than his images.

the movement away from our normal policy is what is going to hurt us. its like blackjack, play the same way every hand or risk hurting everyone at the table. you have to stick to a policy or people around the world will distrust us even more than they already do. even those who support Obama's decision have to acknowledge that.
The only leg the terrorists have to stand on is Bin Laden on a live feed giving a speech saying he isn't dead. Nobody is denying he is dead in Pakistan. The Taliban is saying they will retaliate. Anyone who says he is alive probably stakes out motel diners for a shot of Elvis. This is getting nutty.

I feel weird being on the same side as Panama.
I won't change my opinion and I hope he doesn't change his but I may shower more than usual until this dies down.
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RE: OT: To See or Not to See, THAT is the Question
(05-05-2011 01:25 PM)AtlantaJag Wrote:  
(05-05-2011 01:19 PM)panama Wrote:  
(05-05-2011 10:40 AM)Burn the Horse Wrote:  how can you say with certainty that releasing the photos would "incite violence?" I look at it the other way. By NOT releasing them you give the conspiracy theorists and the radicals who seek to harm us a way to say, "No he isn't dead." That in itself is a problem. If we have eliminated him then we need to make it clear. Do not give the terrorists a platform to stand on.

BTW, this also hurts our credibility. When we killed Sadam's kids we showed their pictures (very gory mind you), when we killed that other Al-Qaeda general we showed his images as well. By NOT showing this image you give ground to doubt. If we have shown all the other photos but wont show this one, perhaps we didn't kill him. I do not believe that myself, but it is, according to the Today Show, a popular mindset right now in the Middle East. That is potentially very dangerous. Since we dumped his body overboard and cannot produce a body now, the radicals could claim we are holding him at GITMO. That could rally our enemies just as easily, perhaps even more so, than his images.

the movement away from our normal policy is what is going to hurt us. its like blackjack, play the same way every hand or risk hurting everyone at the table. you have to stick to a policy or people around the world will distrust us even more than they already do. even those who support Obama's decision have to acknowledge that.
The only leg the terrorists have to stand on is Bin Laden on a live feed giving a speech saying he isn't dead. Nobody is denying he is dead in Pakistan. The Taliban is saying they will retaliate. Anyone who says he is alive probably stakes out motel diners for a shot of Elvis. This is getting nutty.

I feel weird being on the same side as Panama.
I won't change my opinion and I hope he doesn't change his but I may shower more than usual until this dies down.

LMAO LOUD!!!!!!

Choked on my lunch! But I WAS thinking the same thing.
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RE: OT: To See or Not to See, THAT is the Question
What's the big deal about wanting to see the picture of a dead terrorist ? If showing the picture(s) that a lot of folks are panting to see could incite radicals and cause the death of ONE of our military people overseas it just ain't worth it. Even making the picture(s) public wouldn't satisfy some.

The guy is dead. He has been dumped in the deep-six. Muslim world is basically pretty quite right now on the raid, so let's just let it be.
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(05-05-2011 01:09 AM)tyler90wm Wrote:  
(05-04-2011 10:52 PM)HerdZoned Wrote:  I find it funny though that the Radical Right are giving 100% of the credit to Bush for the kill.

Yet they are unable to give any credit to Bush for the economy...

They deserve all the credit for the economy. Im neither a republican or democrat. Have always registared as an independent. But the 8 years Bush was in office he didn't pay attention to this country. He was to busy trying to kill Sadam, and chasing after Bin Laden. If he would have paid 1/2 as much attention to the problems going on here we wouldn't be in the mess we are now.
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(05-05-2011 03:08 PM)HerdZoned Wrote:  They deserve all the credit for the economy. Im neither a republican or democrat. Have always registared as an independent. But the 8 years Bush was in office he didn't pay attention to this country. He was to busy trying to kill Sadam, and chasing after Bin Laden. If he would have paid 1/2 as much attention to the problems going on here we wouldn't be in the mess we are now.

The housing crisis was caused by policies directly from Clinton's pen which made it impossibly easy to obtain a home loan. Bush and Obama have had identical responses since the bubble popped (Bush even tried to stop this lending policy but democrats were convinced he was out to get the middle class and keep them from home ownership). Obama and Bush have had pretty much identical responses to everything since Bush's 2nd term. They have continued failed monetary policies and all the same foreign policies.

Not a defense for the actions, but Bush's first year was just fine. He was living up to campaign promises and fostering a limited government approach. After 9/11 he went hawkish and began his nation building and preemptive war policies (both continued by Obama).
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RE: OT: To See or Not to See, THAT is the Question
I just think this is funny haha.

[Image: obama-game-20110504-080744.jpg]
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RE: OT: To See or Not to See, THAT is the Question
(05-05-2011 12:53 PM)Fanof49ASU Wrote:  They won't show us Osama pics, but they will show us the others?

Warning....graphic....
http://www.foxnews.com/slideshow/world/2...y/#slide=6

They clearly weren't unarmed; you can see a water gun in that picture...

Also, what's up with that helicopter? It looks pretty futuristic to me.
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(05-05-2011 12:53 PM)Fanof49ASU Wrote:  They won't show us Osama pics, but they will show us the others?

Warning....graphic....
http://www.foxnews.com/slideshow/world/2...y/#slide=6


dang. 04-jawdrop

I watch a lot of military documentary films so I'm used to seeing death, but that my friend is a graphic photo you got there.
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RE: OT: To See or Not to See, THAT is the Question
Radier ATO I agree that both parties are to blame. But the fact remains Bush did not pay attention to this country. And I don't see any resolve coming anytime soon. Republicand and Democrats are so far apart on issues that it is impossibe.

If they don't find away soon, we will soon have the 2nd economy in the world. China is increaingly starting to gain even more ground.
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(05-05-2011 06:38 PM)HerdZoned Wrote:  Radier ATO I agree that both parties are to blame. But the fact remains Bush did not pay attention to this country. And I don't see any resolve coming anytime soon. Republicand and Democrats are so far apart on issues that it is impossible.

IMO, we should keep them 7 million miles apart. If they can't decide on anything, then nothing will get done. Nothing getting done in the govt. is a beautiful thought.

I still find it tough to see anything Bush could have done to prevent this. Especially since congress is the law making arm of the nation. The president has some swing, but he can't make anything happen that congress doesn't want. In 2006, it was a Democratic congress, also.

I'm not going to defend Bush, but you can't be critical of him without being critical of Obama, who has continued everything started by Bush. Even after he said otherwise on the campaign trail.
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(05-05-2011 06:38 PM)HerdZoned Wrote:  China is increaingly starting to gain even more ground.

China will see many of the same issues that we have. Massive populations coming into the middle class will be tough to support over time. Aging populations will hurt them also. It will all come to a head with China. I'm not concerned with a communist nation (in the long term). With all the technology these days, it is tough to keep an ignorant populace, even with their censorship attempts. As soon as a rough patch hits, or the middle class shrinks, people will become unruly and want to make their own decisions when it comes to their country.
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