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RE: Hate Crime?
(04-24-2011 07:40 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  
(04-24-2011 07:14 PM)Paul M Wrote:  
(04-24-2011 06:48 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  Paul:
Yes: he should have used the mens bathroom
No: He should not have been stupid enough to get mouthy when called on it

But *none* of this makes this affair any more understandable. If this had been a youtube video 'Mangirl shoved out of womens bathroom asked to leave McDonalds' we *might* be in sanity land. Still no call for a physical altercation for the mangirl just being present in the bathroom but still in sanity land.

I have no sympathy for any of the thugs in this video.


I also think transgenderism is a mental disorder but it's a hell of a lot more desirable than whatever the ghetto rats that beat/recorded her are inflicted with..

Does my post come across as saying anything different? I'll apologize to CRH if my post reads differently than I thought. I chose my words so as not to be misunderstood in that post but if I tried to hard and failed, I'll try again.

I might be misreading you paul but it did come across differently...

This seemed to be the nexus of your post

"but I have a little more sympathy for girls not wanting a freak in the ladies room."

Sorry if I focused too much on that..

That's what CRH had a problem with also.

My humble apologies CountryRedHawk. My post wasn't clear.

I have NO sympathy for these girls. What they did was low life thuggery. I said they went to far. And had said "She didn't deserve this" earlier.

Maybe instead of
Quote:What happened to him was still wrong but I have a little more sympathy for girls not wanting a freak in the ladies room. They just went to far.
I should have said "What happened to him was wrong", placed a period, and stopped.


"Girls" was meant as any girls, not these specific girls. Like I said, any grandmother or even these thugs, if they had just chased him out, would have had my support. These girls lost me when "They just went to far."

Hope I'm not making things more confusing. There's a reason I usually stick to short,simple posts.
04-24-2011 08:34 PM
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Post: #62
RE: Hate Crime?
The question is, could this conflict be resolved without anyone getting the crap kicked out of them?

The answer of course, is yes. It is always yes.

I find it difficult to imagine a context that makes the behavior of the aggressors appropriate.
04-24-2011 09:04 PM
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RE: Hate Crime?
(04-24-2011 11:48 AM)smn1256 Wrote:  Don't know why we have hate crime laws, they're totally stupid. if I'm beating the crap out of someone, ANYONE, chances are I hate them to being with.

Anyway, below is a libs nightmare; two blacks against a transgender s/he. What side do they take?


Quote:http://articles.baltimoresun.com/2011-04...deo-spread

A video of a vicious beating at a Baltimore County McDonald's restaurant went viral Friday, garnering hundreds of thousands of views on websites and prompting the fast-food giant to issue a statement condemning the incident.

The video shows two women — one of them a 14-year-old girl — repeatedly kicking and punching the 22-year-old victim in the head, as an employee of the Rosedale restaurant and a patron try to intervene. Others can be heard laughing, and men are seen standing idly by.

Toward the end of the video, one of the suspects lands a punishing blow to the victim's head, and she appears to have a seizure. A man's voice tells the women to run because police are coming.


The three-minute clip was apparently first posted on YouTube, then taken down by administrators who said it violated the site's policies. But it popped back up on other sites and was ultimately linked from the popular Drudge Report, which gave it top billing for much of the day.

By early evening, the video had received more than 500,000 views on one site alone.

County police confirmed that the attack occurred April 18 in the 6300 block of Kenwood Ave. Police said the 14-year-old girl has been charged as a juvenile, while charges were pending against an 18-year-old woman.

Equality Maryland said the victim is a transgender woman and called on state Attorney General Douglas F. Gansler to step in and investigate the case as a hate crime. Police and prosecutors said they did not know whether the victim is a transgender woman.

"It does appear that the victim was a transgender woman, and she was brutalized while people stood by and watched," said Lisa Polyak, vice president of the board of directors for Equality Maryland, an advocacy organization that fought unsuccessfully in the past legislative session for greater protections for transgender individuals. "There's no excuse for that violence under any circumstances, but we would encourage police to investigate as a hate crime."

The police report does not provide a motive, but quotes one of the suspects saying that the fight was "over using a bathroom."

As the video spread online, McDonald's acknowledged that the attack had occurred in a Baltimore-area restaurant and said it was working with local police.

Oh, here's some more entertainment from McD's. is anyone starting to see a pattern?
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26968445
What is this world coming to? really? beat up a young girl while you have 4-5 young kids through the ages of 2-12 presumably. even 2 of his own
04-24-2011 10:48 PM
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RE: Hate Crime?
The question becomes, are these acts of street violence becoming more common, or are there just easier ways of distributing them to a mass audience (facebook and youtube, the biggest culprits)?

As disturbing as the fights are, what I find even more disturbing in a lot of these videos is how onlookers see it as entertainment and something to joke about and send to friends.
04-24-2011 11:28 PM
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RE: Hate Crime?
(04-22-2011 12:28 PM)Rebel Wrote:  
(04-22-2011 12:11 PM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  McDonald's would have fired any employee who lifted a finger to help that woman.

Doing the morally right thing is more important than a minimum-wage job. Considering the backlash that would have occurred had they fired him, I don't think they would have taken that chance at firing what would be known as a "hero".

Personally, I'd have rather someone armed stood up, assessed the situation, determined that the kid was going into seizure and about to die, determined it to be attempted murder (A felony), and shot the pieces of ****. In Georgia you're within your rights to shoot a POS to stop a felony. People like this don't need to live among the civilized.

Walmart did. Liability trumps PR.
04-25-2011 10:49 AM
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RE: Hate Crime?
Liberal media up to usual standards. In numerous reports nothing was stated about the attackers being black and the victim white. To their liberal credit that did reference the fact the victim was TG.

Tell me how many reports of white on black crime where the race of the attackers and victim were omitted. I can't think of one of the top of my head. In fact, the race of the attackers being white is usually included in the first two sentences.
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04-26-2011 08:07 AM
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RE: Hate Crime?
Do you really need to be told what color everyone in the video is?
04-26-2011 10:54 AM
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