(04-19-2011 06:18 AM)chargeradio Wrote:  The Sun Belt hasn't shown much interet in JSU.

With South Alabama moving up, there is no reason to add Jacksonville St, the Sun Belt would already have two Alabama schools. Georgia State makes a lot of sense because there is no presence in Georgia. I would think they would look at App long before JSU as well. La Tech would be the obvious first choice but I see no reason for the Sun Belt not to move to 12 relatively soon.

I think Louisiana Tech will move into the Sun Belt within the two seasons. Then South Alabama jumps on board for 2013. I still think Georgia State would be attractive for a 12 member and if the conference loses a team to CUSA or elsewhere, I think ODU might be the next team on deck. I don't think there is a spot for Jacksonville State and I don't think the Gamecocks have much benefit to justify a jump up to FBS.

the WAC would be stupid not to invite some of these schools; set up an eastern division and have the divisional champs play for the title

it would save the WAC and it might bring some interest to the league

(04-19-2011 06:29 PM)Marksonar85 Wrote:  I like it. Hopefully it can be managed better then the caa.

What's wrong with the CAA's management ? They handled losing Richmond well by expanding into the best FCS football conference. Now they're challenging the A10 in Basketball. The conference has become a true mid major instead of a 1 bid league.

Is there any impetus at ODU to move up to FBS ? I haven't read any reputable source that says they have any long term plans to move up. On a conference expansion message board, they seem like an obvious choice. Their attendance and recruiting area make them a prime candidate.

(04-19-2011 10:42 PM)Theodoresdaddy Wrote:  the WAC would be stupid not to invite some of these schools; set up an eastern division and have the divisional champs play for the title

it would save the WAC and it might bring some interest to the league

A) The WAC is stupid.

B) They're currently at 7 members for 2012, they've got a long way to go to get to two divisions. As it is one of their seven members has yet to play a snap of competitive football and another that has 6 winning seasons in the last 25 years at the FCS level. It's likely that in 2012 the WAC falls below the Sun Belt, with no FBS options, to get to 12 they'd have to add 5 FCS programs. A conference made up of seven FCS moveups/startups and La tech, Idaho, Utah State, San Jose State and New Mexico State...I'm sure the fans and administration of those five schools are falling all over themselves at that prospect. The WAC needs to add as few as possible that helps them survive at this point, they only need to add one more.

(04-19-2011 10:43 PM)ChrisLords Wrote:  

(04-19-2011 06:29 PM)Marksonar85 Wrote:  I like it. Hopefully it can be managed better then the caa.

What's wrong with the CAA's management ? They handled losing Richmond well by expanding into the best FCS football conference. Now they're challenging the A10 in Basketball. The conference has become a true mid major instead of a 1 bid league.

Is there any impetus at ODU to move up to FBS ? I haven't read any reputable source that says they have any long term plans to move up. On a conference expansion message board, they seem like an obvious choice. Their attendance and recruiting area make them a prime candidate.

Management is letting the football part of the conference collapse. yes caa basketball is one of the top mid majors and the football is still a powerhouse but two teams folded one team changed conferences and two more might move up AND there has been no talk of replacing them. Oh and georgia state is just a stay over

(04-19-2011 11:56 PM)Marksonar85 Wrote:  

(04-19-2011 10:43 PM)ChrisLords Wrote:  

(04-19-2011 06:29 PM)Marksonar85 Wrote:  I like it. Hopefully it can be managed better then the caa.

What's wrong with the CAA's management ? They handled losing Richmond well by expanding into the best FCS football conference. Now they're challenging the A10 in Basketball. The conference has become a true mid major instead of a 1 bid league.

Is there any impetus at ODU to move up to FBS ? I haven't read any reputable source that says they have any long term plans to move up. On a conference expansion message board, they seem like an obvious choice. Their attendance and recruiting area make them a prime candidate.

Management is letting the football part of the conference collapse. yes caa basketball is one of the top mid majors and the football is still a powerhouse but two teams folded one team changed conferences and two more might move up AND there has been no talk of replacing them. Oh and georgia state is just a stay over

Can you elaborate for those that dont follow CAA football that much? Northeastern folded correct? Nova is possible moving up? Has the CAA contacted Charlotte? UMass is moving up (but they were football only).

(04-20-2011 08:52 AM)HP-TBDPITL Wrote:  

(04-19-2011 11:56 PM)Marksonar85 Wrote:  

(04-19-2011 10:43 PM)ChrisLords Wrote:  

(04-19-2011 06:29 PM)Marksonar85 Wrote:  I like it. Hopefully it can be managed better then the caa.

What's wrong with the CAA's management ? They handled losing Richmond well by expanding into the best FCS football conference. Now they're challenging the A10 in Basketball. The conference has become a true mid major instead of a 1 bid league.

Is there any impetus at ODU to move up to FBS ? I haven't read any reputable source that says they have any long term plans to move up. On a conference expansion message board, they seem like an obvious choice. Their attendance and recruiting area make them a prime candidate.

Management is letting the football part of the conference collapse. yes caa basketball is one of the top mid majors and the football is still a powerhouse but two teams folded one team changed conferences and two more might move up AND there has been no talk of replacing them. Oh and georgia state is just a stay over

Can you elaborate for those that dont follow CAA football that much? Northeastern folded correct? Nova is possible moving up? Has the CAA contacted Charlotte? UMass is moving up (but they were football only).

Northeastern and Hofstra dropped football within a week of each other. UMass and Nova are possibly moving up and Rhode island is moving to the Pioneer League. odus ad is the same one that moved western kentucky up tho. I think they want to prove they can win a championship before they move up. Fyi dispite what they say VCU is looking into football.

(04-19-2011 08:11 AM)10thMountain Wrote:  Panama,

As a GSU fan, let me get your opinion on something. What would you think of GSU becoming part of a hypothetical conference whose purpose would be to create essentially a true shadow SEC that replicated it's model of success but on on a smaller level?



It takes the largest/most promising non AQ public school (Tulsa excepted), who are not likely to receive an invitation to one of the six AQ conferences, from the 12 states of the old south. It takes the success of the Big10 and SEC and replicates it by having all but one school be a large public university and adds the element of state vs state competition since each individual school is the representative of it's state in this league.

I believe it would actually become a very passionate and entertaining league in just a little over a decade.

Actually think that would be a cool conference.

(04-19-2011 02:19 PM)The Brown Bull Wrote:  I am sure I am missing a few.....isn't like Denver U also trying to move up?

Denver is going to the WAC for basketball, but they don't play or have a football program. They play hockey.

(04-20-2011 10:57 AM)Marksonar85 Wrote:  

(04-20-2011 08:52 AM)HP-TBDPITL Wrote:  

(04-19-2011 11:56 PM)Marksonar85 Wrote:  

(04-19-2011 10:43 PM)ChrisLords Wrote:  

(04-19-2011 06:29 PM)Marksonar85 Wrote:  I like it. Hopefully it can be managed better then the caa.

What's wrong with the CAA's management ? They handled losing Richmond well by expanding into the best FCS football conference. Now they're challenging the A10 in Basketball. The conference has become a true mid major instead of a 1 bid league.

Is there any impetus at ODU to move up to FBS ? I haven't read any reputable source that says they have any long term plans to move up. On a conference expansion message board, they seem like an obvious choice. Their attendance and recruiting area make them a prime candidate.

Management is letting the football part of the conference collapse. yes caa basketball is one of the top mid majors and the football is still a powerhouse but two teams folded one team changed conferences and two more might move up AND there has been no talk of replacing them. Oh and georgia state is just a stay over

Can you elaborate for those that dont follow CAA football that much? Northeastern folded correct? Nova is possible moving up? Has the CAA contacted Charlotte? UMass is moving up (but they were football only).

Northeastern and Hofstra dropped football within a week of each other. UMass and Nova are possibly moving up and Rhode island is moving to the Pioneer League. odus ad is the same one that moved western kentucky up tho. I think they want to prove they can win a championship before they move up. Fyi dispite what they say VCU is looking into football.

So it seems the A-10 schools are on their way out...what about Richmond? And is Charlotte coming on board, I would think they would much rather play in the CAA then the Southern Conf...because they are thinking bigger.

I still have to wonder whether the CAA wouldnt, in the long run, try to move up all of its members to D-1 and create a MAC type conference on the East Coast. Georgia State is a big addition...if VCU also created a football program, I have to wonder whether the CAA would ask Richmond and Charlotte to be all sports in.

(04-20-2011 10:57 AM)Marksonar85 Wrote:  . odus ad is the same one that moved western kentucky up tho. I think they want to prove they can win a championship before they move up. Fyi dispite what they say VCU is looking into football.

I'm not sure the main reason our AD left to go to VCU because of VCU's supposed desire to create football. His aging parents live around there and he is from that area. Maybe it was, but I think it was driven more for personal reasons--not challenges. But I could be wrong.

WKU going to FBS was driven more by the president rather than the AD. The AD was just the go-fer to run the tasks. FBS football was on the WKU radar screen for a long, long time--even back in the 90s it was seriously discussed--especially by the "WKU old timers"--the current WKU president might be considered an "old timer" since he graduated from there in the early 70s This idea went back to the 50s/60s when Kelly Thompson was president too. (kinda like the Texas old timers wanting to go back to an independent republic--lol).

With the SBC doing football, it became the conduit and motivation to finally make the move. And to get off the freakin' pot.

(04-20-2011 10:57 AM)Marksonar85 Wrote:  

(04-20-2011 08:52 AM)HP-TBDPITL Wrote:  

(04-19-2011 11:56 PM)Marksonar85 Wrote:  

(04-19-2011 10:43 PM)ChrisLords Wrote:  

(04-19-2011 06:29 PM)Marksonar85 Wrote:  I like it. Hopefully it can be managed better then the caa.

What's wrong with the CAA's management ? They handled losing Richmond well by expanding into the best FCS football conference. Now they're challenging the A10 in Basketball. The conference has become a true mid major instead of a 1 bid league.

Is there any impetus at ODU to move up to FBS ? I haven't read any reputable source that says they have any long term plans to move up. On a conference expansion message board, they seem like an obvious choice. Their attendance and recruiting area make them a prime candidate.

Management is letting the football part of the conference collapse. yes caa basketball is one of the top mid majors and the football is still a powerhouse but two teams folded one team changed conferences and two more might move up AND there has been no talk of replacing them. Oh and georgia state is just a stay over

Can you elaborate for those that dont follow CAA football that much? Northeastern folded correct? Nova is possible moving up? Has the CAA contacted Charlotte? UMass is moving up (but they were football only).

Northeastern and Hofstra dropped football within a week of each other. UMass and Nova are possibly moving up and Rhode island is moving to the Pioneer League. odus ad is the same one that moved western kentucky up tho. I think they want to prove they can win a championship before they move up. Fyi dispite what they say VCU is looking into football.

unless URI changed their plans, they're moving to the Northeastern League not the Pioneer

(04-20-2011 07:27 PM)Theodoresdaddy Wrote:  

(04-20-2011 10:57 AM)Marksonar85 Wrote:  

(04-20-2011 08:52 AM)HP-TBDPITL Wrote:  

(04-19-2011 11:56 PM)Marksonar85 Wrote:  

(04-19-2011 10:43 PM)ChrisLords Wrote:  What's wrong with the CAA's management ? They handled losing Richmond well by expanding into the best FCS football conference. Now they're challenging the A10 in Basketball. The conference has become a true mid major instead of a 1 bid league.

Is there any impetus at ODU to move up to FBS ? I haven't read any reputable source that says they have any long term plans to move up. On a conference expansion message board, they seem like an obvious choice. Their attendance and recruiting area make them a prime candidate.

Management is letting the football part of the conference collapse. yes caa basketball is one of the top mid majors and the football is still a powerhouse but two teams folded one team changed conferences and two more might move up AND there has been no talk of replacing them. Oh and georgia state is just a stay over

Can you elaborate for those that dont follow CAA football that much? Northeastern folded correct? Nova is possible moving up? Has the CAA contacted Charlotte? UMass is moving up (but they were football only).

Northeastern and Hofstra dropped football within a week of each other. UMass and Nova are possibly moving up and Rhode island is moving to the Pioneer League. odus ad is the same one that moved western kentucky up tho. I think they want to prove they can win a championship before they move up. Fyi dispite what they say VCU is looking into football.

unless URI changed their plans, they're moving to the Northeastern League not the Pioneer

The problem with the CAA is that it is a hybrid conference. Its football product is very good, but it does not make any money. So there is no incentive and no leverage for football only's to go all sports. UMass, RI Richmond and Charlotte all see the CAA as a step down from the A-10. The football only schools were mostly refugees from the old Yankee/A-10 football conf. They never totally fit in. They loose money by the bucket load. So one by one they have either tried to move up or have dropped down/out. Now that UMass has made the jump up, there is a very real possibility of the entire remainder of the old north division collapsing.

(04-20-2011 05:57 PM)TopperTorpedo Wrote:  I'm not sure the main reason our AD left to go to VCU because of VCU's supposed desire to create football. His aging parents live around there and he is from that area. Maybe it was, but I think it was driven more for personal reasons--not challenges. But I could be wrong.

ODU not VCU...

(04-19-2011 10:43 PM)ChrisLords Wrote:  

(04-19-2011 06:29 PM)Marksonar85 Wrote:  I like it. Hopefully it can be managed better then the caa.

What's wrong with the CAA's management ? They handled losing Richmond well by expanding into the best FCS football conference. Now they're challenging the A10 in Basketball. The conference has become a true mid major instead of a 1 bid league.

Is there any impetus at ODU to move up to FBS ? I haven't read any reputable source that says they have any long term plans to move up. On a conference expansion message board, they seem like an obvious choice. Their attendance and recruiting area make them a prime candidate.

ODU currently havs a stadium size limitation (only 20,000) but based on ticket sales for the young program could explode into a 30k type program shortly after moving to FBS. People are crazy about college sports in Virginia.

(04-21-2011 01:42 PM)Kit-Cat Wrote:  ODU currently havs a stadium size limitation (only 20,000) but based on ticket sales for the young program could explode into a 30k type program shortly after moving to FBS. People are crazy about college sports in Virginia.

They could probably to 30k still in the FCS. The sold out their stadium quickly when they started selling tickets.

People are crazy about college sports in Virginia. Probably because we're the largest populated state in the nation without a professional sports team. And why the Redskins have tons of Virginia fans all over the state from Norfolk to Northern Va. to Southwest Virginia.